GeorgeKaplan
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He’s much more promising than a lot of the players picked before him
Player Discussion Filip Chytil
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Irishguy42
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I mean, we're almost 2.5 years out.
By this point, in any draft, no one should be considering draft position as important or meaningful anymore.
But yes, I guess in a non-serious reflection, it is amusing to think about.
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He ruined his perfect assist-less season.
The guy pretty much receives every pass anywhere near him.. had several in his feet including one from Panarin that lead eventually led to the Fox goal. Makes it look so easy and natural too
Does Chytil have say 70+ point 1C potential? I feel like he's a better player than Mika was at his age. He doesn't have Mika's shot though.
I think Fil is going to surprise a lot of people and actually become a very good 2 way center. His defense is already coming around (in fact after Mika i trust him more than any of our other centers in our own zone) and at his age and IQ it’s only going to get better. He’s got the legs for it the motor. I love his two way upside. I think he’s going to be a beast of a 2 way 60 plus point center.
now I also wonder if he can take over kreider’s role on Pp1 one day soon as the puck retriever and net front presence. I’ve seen him in front a bit in Hartford thru flow of plays and he’s a handful for goalies. I’d like to see him there at some point. If that becomes a role for him I can see those point totals climb further.
now I also wonder if he can take over kreider’s role on Pp1 one day soon as the puck retriever and net front presence. I’ve seen him in front a bit in Hartford thru flow of plays and he’s a handful for goalies. I’d like to see him there at some point. If that becomes a role for him I can see those point totals climb further.
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I think his ceiling is certainly in that range.
Now, I think there's quite a bit that would have to come together for that to happen, and right now I think he probably tops out as a very good second line center. But being more than that isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I think Zibanejad was probably further along at the same age, but not necessarily light years ahead of him. But, if we were take out the next level Zibanejad has achieved over the last 18 months or so, their projections were more or less in the same ballpark.
I could see a 30 G, 40 A season out of him with the right teamates (Kravstov and Kakko eventually).
Chytil is going to have the benefit on playing on a very good offense in the future the likes of which Zibanejad never had in Ottawa and his early years here.
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Kris King's Ghost
Potentially yes.
We just have to see how it comes together. And that's another layer than can make projecting offense significantly more difficult.
It's one thing to project Chytil in isolation. But then you start to factor in Kakko and Kravtsov, or even someone from the 2020 draft and you find yourself in a different world. Kakko especially is a player who alters the entire landscape. His potential is that high.
Probably my biggest concern with Chytil, if you want to even call it that, is that I'm not sure about his killer instinct.
Thus far, for as talented as he is, I'm not sure there's a bulldog mentality in him. He does really, really good when he asserts himself, but to this point it's typically been something that needs to coaxed out of him a bit.
That factor, and whether its ingrained in him, or something that evolves with growth, maturity and confidence, could very well be the difference between whether you have second line, or even 1B type center, or whether you have a guy is unquestionably a first line center. Finding the answer to that question is going to take time, possibly even several years.
Chytil is the reason I'm not too pissed at the Andersson pick. Mittelstadt isn't looking great but in hindsight(and people did say during the draft he has more high end skill) we should have drafted him.
Mittlestadt is everything we collectively hate in a player.
He’d get roasted by our fan base.
He’d get roasted by our fan base.
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I think the sad thing is that the Rangers weren't in a position to grab Pettersson. That was the kid they really wanted.
The 2016 and 2017 drafts are examples of so close and yet so far. The Rangers find a way to come away with Keller and Pettersson in that draft, and it potentially changes the landscape.
On the flip side of that, depending on how it changes things, you potentially don't have Kakko. Though the fun fantasy is to imagine a scenario where you have all three.
The 2016 and 2017 drafts are examples of so close and yet so far. The Rangers find a way to come away with Keller and Pettersson in that draft, and it potentially changes the landscape.
On the flip side of that, depending on how it changes things, you potentially don't have Kakko. Though the fun fantasy is to imagine a scenario where you have all three.
That's why you don't draft low ceiling guys at 7. But this is about Chytil, so I'll leave it at that.
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Eh, I think it all depends on how one defines low ceiling.
If you project a guy as a second line center, who is no worse than a third line center, that's probably not quite the fit.
I say that just as a general observation that we tend to view things as absolutes, based on how we interpret them. Meanwhile, that's not actually how the team felt. We do that with ceilings, consensus lists, etc., and the truth is that they really don't exist. They can serve as broad guidelines, but we have to avoid viewing them as strict parameters, which there's a tendency to sometimes do.
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yeah, for as 'unhappy' with Lias to date, there really arent a whole lot of better options at 7 there, even in hindsight. After the top 6, there was a big cliff. This isn't the Jessiman draft. we didnt go off the board and skip a dozen all-stars. There are only two players taken in the rest of the 1st round that are better than Lias is right now, and one of them is also on the Rangers. the only other one was a very-late riser, who could have been considered a bit off the board (Necas).
Pretty baseless conclusion about him not having killer instinct....if you're saying he doesn't finish his opportunities, he generally has so far. If you're saying he's not likely to be clutch, he hasn't really played in OT and obviously not playoffs. You don't have to in your face to have that instinct, can be subtle and still seize the moment.
Time will tell and sure he hasn't proved it, but I wouldn't say he hasn't given any reason to believe he can't make the big game, changing plays in the future
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I spent the days leading up to the 2017 draft concocting scenarios that allowed the Rangers to draft Nolan Patrick. That would have worked out great. I was initially disappointed with the LA pick, but the Chytil pick got me excited for both moves. The front office identified a big potential offensive player performing in a mens league as an underager and put themselves in a position to get him. They must have been 99% sure Chytil would be available with their second pick. With LA they went out and got a guy they felt was guaranteed to be an NHL player in case Chytil totally bombed. Chytil is developing into something special and fun to watch, justifying their evaluation.
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I think if there's a particular weakness that he's shown, over a period of 3 or 4 years, it's an inconsistency to assert his will on the ice. When he's firing on all cylinders, you see that. When he's not, you see a significantly less effective people.
From what I've seen, I don't know if that's something that quite comes naturally to him out there. To this point, he's been a guy whose tended to need a bit more prodding in that regard. The ability to harness that assertiveness, and more consistently go in for the kill, is what I am alluding to.
Not really sure where we're going with the clutch or game-changing plays.
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I pretty much don't see any of this "un-assertiveness" in his game after he came back from Hartford so I'm attributing it to growing up and developing maturity. After all, he did exhibited these what you defined as a killer instinct in the AHL.
Otherwise, just wanted to say that I'm amazed at Chytil's 200 ft performance since coming back from Hartford. Before the season I was hoping for something near this current level of performance toward the end of the season, not in October / November.
I was saying it in the off-season (when preaching to be cautious about expectations for this season) and happy to repeat it, but if Chytil keeps it up at his age it's reasonable to project him to develop into a better player than Zibanejad,
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