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Player Discussion Filip Chytil

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duhmetreE said:
From what I'm reading, he looked solid on his call-up.

Hopefully he can continue to improve but I still think he'd be better served at wing for the immediate future. It opens up a lot of negatives for him at center.

Hopefully he follows a similar progression to Hertl. A lot of similarities
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Hertl was almost a PPG player last year. Do you think Chytil has that sort of potential?
 
jas said:
You missed the part of the season when he was at his most productive playing RW next to Hayes and Kreider?
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He played like 3 games last season as a C. If you compare his time in Hartford and his last game, he seems way more comfortable playing the center position.
If you don't believe it, you should hear the kid himself telling that.
 
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jas said:
You missed the part of the season when he was at his most productive playing RW next to Hayes and Kreider?
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the thing that I think can be misleading is that the time he spent on wing with hayes and kreider was BY FAR the best line he played on all year...and then last night he had pretty good linemates in kreider and buch...so is the difference really center vs wing? or is it more about playing with legit top 6 forwards vs 4th liners? I'm not sure we have a large enough sample size playing with top 6 guys yet to know for sure.
 
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Fvital92 said:
He played like 3 games last season as a C. If you compare his time in Hartford and his last game, he seems way more comfortable playing the center position.
If you don't believe it, you should hear the kid himself telling that.
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I have...I also heard the GM on MSG at the end of the year say it was still up in the at that as to whether he’s a center or wing at the NHL.
 
Leetch3 said:
the thing that I think can be misleading is that the time he spent on wing with hayes and kreider was BY FAR the best line he played on all year...and then last night he had pretty good linemates in kreider and buch...so is the difference really center vs wing? or is it more about playing with legit top 6 forwards vs 4th liners? I'm not sure we have a large enough sample size playing with top 6 guys yet to know for sure.
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Which is why I have prefaced my comments with, ‘if this is the Chytil we see going forward...’. Chytil becoming a legitimate 60-70 point center behind Zibanejad does wondrous things for this organization. But, as I have said before, I have heard a lot of observers who are not yet convinced he’s a center at the NHL...and not just on this board. I’m a doubter that hopes he’s proven wrong.
 
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jas said:
Which is why I have prefaced my comments with, ‘if this is the Chytil we see going forward...’. Chytil becoming a legitimate 60-70 point center behind Zibanejad does wondrous things for this organization. But, as I have said before, I have heard a lot of observers who are not yet convinced he’s a center at the NHL...and not just on this board. I’m a doubter that hopes he’s proven wrong.
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obviously we would all be thrilled with that...i'm just not sure that he wouldn't become a legit 60-70 point winger given the same opportunity on a line with a legit top 6 forward and other winger.
 
Leetch3 said:
obviously we would all be thrilled with that...i'm just not sure that he wouldn't become a legit 60-70 point winger given the same opportunity on a line with a legit top 6 forward and other winger.
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Agreed. I actually think it might be a stronger possibility.
 
KreiderBomb said:
This was the perfect move. We play 5 games in 14 days, he will get more ice time in Hartford at center, a position we need him to play. It's also a good kick in the pants that he needs and I'll go out on a limb and say by the end of the month he is back with the Rangers. It won't cripple him mentally, NHL players didnt get there by being mentally soft and if he is that mentally soft that a short term demotion kills his career then he wasnt an nhl player to begin with. He will be fine and I guarantee he comes back more motivated and consistant with his effort, this probably should have happened last year with him and Howden, it certainly worked with Lias.
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Went back to read what I missed. LOVE THIS POST! My vote for post of the year!
Kreiderbomb pretty much nailed the Filip situation spot on.
Kind of shows how "each individual player" has a unique answer, in how they are dealt with and what the organization NEEDS in comparison to what is BEST for the player.
Those 3 specifically got a good taste last year........Lias after making the team, eventually got sent down around Christmas, and then back up 2 mos. later, yet not getting significant ice time. (Much to many here, chagrin) Filip played a decent amount of games last year, yet wasn't good enough this year, only to be sent down.........Howden played pretty much all season (except for his injury) didnt provide what "we wanted", but was apparently good enough for Quinn.
I guess my point is.......if we all take a step "back" and look at the big picture, the Rangers are doing what they need to do in order to motivate and get players to play "up" to their potential.
Howden was apparently deemed ready.
Filip got sent down, motivated him and now hopefully we will see a more consistent effort level.
Lias......well, that is where I am confused. A projected "captain", or "team leader" if you will, a heady player, physical, and supposedly a better than average defender. Hmmm, that leaves "offensive talent" out. Is THAT the reason why Lias isnt getting even a "sniff" at 2nd line duties? Are they waiting for him to grow, or are they only expecting for him to be a Jesper Fast part deux, replacement? I dunno.
Side note they all were significant "negative" players. Lias was a -13 w/Rangers and a -24 w/Hartford. Chytil -22, Howden -16. Even worse than Shatty's -15.

Yes, they were part of "bad teams", but how much can they be blamed for being a part of a "bad team".
In comparison, look at where Buchnevich is now.......still growing in his 4th season and I believe he will easily be a 55-60 pt. player if he stays healthy. In 2016-17 his 1st season he was doing okay, got injured which set him back but ever since then he has steadily progressed. Yeah ups (you can smile Buch!) and downs (many frowns) but getting there.
A learning, hopefully growing........"process", look no further than Buchnevich.
Kakko may be an entirely different character, but even still he has to grow as well, while becoming "A MAN". Not a put down, by no means.
 
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rangersfansince08 said:
3 G 5 A in 6 games along with a +8. I think he is our 2C of the future. Can see a 30-30 guy if everything works out.
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Honestly, I think that is "low balling" it. Filip has much more potential than that. Obviously depends his line mates and the chemistry of the 3. Hope Quinn stays with whomever his line mates eventually become. Right now, Kreider and Kakko. Eventually probably Buchnevich and someday Kravtsov. Wow!

What is AWESOME about all of this......is that these youngsters will be "growing together". Losing sucks, but eventually learning to win together will taste so sweet and make all that losing "worth it". Honestly, I dont think our Rangers are going to be all that bad. Stay even keel, great win vs Tampa, with that said..........

Tampa game was a great template. We got a glimpse of what "could be" in the future. The future looks so bright, I had better start wearing my rose colored glasses again.
 
I fell in love with the idea of the player Fil could become as soon as we drafted him. You could tell he would fill out and I always imagined that game at its best on that size of a dude. Especially when he can skate as well as he can. He’s got the makings of a great 2C fringe 1C.

No way this kid was going back to riding buses in the A again. He’s playing with a whole new gear.
 
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