Fantasy Baseball Thread IV

[rangerssharks414]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't do a little dance and restrain from sending a gloating text message when I saw that news...

I've never played in an AL only or NL only league. What happens in your league if someone switches leagues during the season? Is it a free for all, or do you have a free agent/waiver budget?

 

[Winger for Hire]

I've never played in an AL only or NL only league. What happens in your league if someone switches leagues during the season? Is it a free for all, or do you have a free agent/waiver budget?

In our NL Only League, if someone comes over from the AL he's put into the player pool and in the next week's FAAB waiver process, he's bid on (blind bid).

If someone on your roster (In-Season) gets moved to the AL, you're allowed to keep him on your roster for the rest of the year and get his stats, but come our February roster cut-down date, he has to be cut loose.

We used to do some weird things like allowing AL players to be bought at auction and stashed on the bench (which led to a couple confusing incidents) and instead of keeping an AL player after a trade, you lost him and gained what ever auction price he was bought at in your FAAB budget.

 

[rangerssharks414]

In our NL Only League, if someone comes over from the AL he's put into the player pool and in the next week's FAAB waiver process, he's bid on (blind bid).

If someone on your roster (In-Season) gets moved to the AL, you're allowed to keep him on your roster for the rest of the year and get his stats, but come our February roster cut-down date, he has to be cut loose.

We used to do some weird things like allowing AL players to be bought at auction and stashed on the bench (which led to a couple confusing incidents) and instead of keeping an AL player after a trade, you lost him and gained what ever auction price he was bought at in your FAAB budget.

That seems really odd. I would think that most AL/NL only leagues don't have this rule, but I could be wrong.

 

[Winger for Hire]

That seems really odd. I would think that most AL/NL only leagues don't have this rule, but I could be wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if my league is the only league using this rule.

Around 2004 we had a lot of owners that were upset that they were losing players to the AL and all they were getting in return was FAAB money and it's not a given that an MLB player comes back to the NL in the deal (or any other deal). So someone was losing a linchpin guy and only getting back $20, $25, $30 FAAB dollars to bid on a smattering of middle relief options, 1 or 2 25th men, or potential AAA call-ups.

And the offseason were Parra got traded to the AL, then came back to the NL in the offseason prompted us to allow AL players that were grandfathered on your roster (from the rule above) to stay on the roster until we have to submit the final rosters before the yearly auction.

 

[Brodeur]

I've never played in an AL only or NL only league. What happens in your league if someone switches leagues during the season? Is it a free for all, or do you have a free agent/waiver budget?

I recall from reading Fantasyland that they were allowed to retain the player and accrue stats for the season, if they switched leagues. Premise of the book was that the author joined a prominent AL Only league and wrote about the experience and the other players.

In my AL Only league, it's more cutthroat and you don't accrue further stats if he changes leagues midseason. Funniest instance I can remember was the Manny to Dodgers trade, if only because all of us thought Manny had an untradeable contract.

When a new player enters the league, a new bidding process gets initiated. So when Jonathan Lucroy went from Milwaukee to Texas, we had another blind bid for Lucroy in AL Only. Usually the prices get absurd because it's one of the last chances to improve your team; I thinks somebody put in a $40 max bid for Lucroy (our cap is $300).

I grabbed Kelvin Herrera with one of my last picks last year for $1 with the thought that the Royals may move Wade Davis. We're only allotted a handful of keepers, but now I have the option of keeping Herrera for $8 next season which would be several dollars cheaper than he'd go for in an open auction.

It's early, but the other guys I'm considering keeping:

1B Mike Napoli ($8) - Obviously contingent on him signing in the AL. Probably would let him go back into the pool.

1B Greg Bird ($7) - Picked him up late in the season solely as a potential keeper. But not sure if he'd go for much more in our open auction.

2B Devon Travis ($8) - Put up great numbers but seems to have injury concerns.

OF Carlos Gomez ($10) - Decent numbers during his Rangers stint. Went for $31 in the auction this year, then got dropped when he was released by Houston. I picked him up after he was signed by the Rangers. A 20/20 threat might go for $15ish in an open auction.

RP Kelvin Herrera ($8) - I'm gonna be bummed if the Royals bring in a different guy to close.

SP Jose Quintana ($19) - Great season outside of wins. But $19 seems close to full price. Might be rendered moot if he gets to an NL team before April.

 

[Garlando]

Not sure if any of you guys play in Dynasty leagues but I took over a bad team mid-season and have the first pick in the upcoming draft. Have it narrowed down to Nick Senzel of the Reds and Eloy Jimenez of the Cubs. Both look like good players going forward, but Senzel seems closer to the majors and less risky imo whereas I believe Jimenez has the higher upside. Thoughts?

 

[bluesfan94]

Jiminez is the better prospect IMO but the harder/longer path

 

[rangerssharks414]

Not sure if any of you guys play in Dynasty leagues but I took over a bad team mid-season and have the first pick in the upcoming draft. Have it narrowed down to Nick Senzel of the Reds and Eloy Jimenez of the Cubs. Both look like good players going forward, but Senzel seems closer to the majors and less risky imo whereas I believe Jimenez has the higher upside. Thoughts?

I agree with this. With that being said, you took over a bad team. Don't go with the "safer" player. Go for the upside, which is Jimenez.

Edit: I pretty much only play dynasties nowadays. If you ever have a question, don't hesitate to ask.

 

[rangerssharks414]

What do you guys think of Jose De Leon going forward? Is he worth $6 in a dynasty?

I got offered $6 De Leon and $6 Danny Valencia for my $20 Carpenter and $3 Aoki. Thoughts? I need to shed cap space.

Edit: I would move Zobrist to second, and I could get a cheap speed outfielder in the auction.

 

[Garlando]

Jiminez is the better prospect IMO but the harder/longer path

I agree with this. With that being said, you took over a bad team. Don't go with the "safer" player. Go for the upside, which is Jimenez.

Edit: I pretty much only play dynasties nowadays. If you ever have a question, don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks guys! I'll go with Jiminez in the upcoming draft, definitely like him as a prospect. I need his potential star power and higher upside with a poor team like this.

 

[Garlando]

What do you guys think of Jose De Leon going forward? Is he worth $6 in a dynasty?

I got offered $6 De Leon and $6 Danny Valencia for my $20 Carpenter and $3 Aoki. Thoughts? I need to shed cap space.

Edit: I would move Zobrist to second, and I could get a cheap speed outfielder in the auction.

I'm a big Jose De Leon fan and think he's worth a grab in Dynasty! He posted great numbers in the minors including lots of K's, he'll play in a pitchers ballpark at home, and he has a good team around him. The only question is whether he finds a rotation spot in LA and my guess is he's the 6th guy at the moment. Rich Hill and Scott Kazmir will inevitably get injured though so I would lean towards taking the deal. Maybe something more that Valencia to help sweeten it for you would be ideal.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I'm a big Jose De Leon fan and think he's worth a grab in Dynasty! He posted great numbers in the minors including lots of K's, he'll play in a pitchers ballpark at home, and he has a good team around him. The only question is whether he finds a rotation spot in LA and my guess is he's the 6th guy at the moment. Rich Hill and Scott Kazmir will inevitably get injured though so I would lean towards taking the deal. Maybe something more that Valencia to help sweeten it for you would be ideal.

I took the trade. I didn't want to wait too long and have the other guy change his mind.

 

[N o o d l e s]

Not sure if any of you guys play in Dynasty leagues but I took over a bad team mid-season and have the first pick in the upcoming draft. Have it narrowed down to Nick Senzel of the Reds and Eloy Jimenez of the Cubs. Both look like good players going forward, but Senzel seems closer to the majors and less risky imo whereas I believe Jimenez has the higher upside. Thoughts?

Have you already made the pick?

I would be interested in seeing your roster. Jimenez is certainly a higher ceiling prospect, but Senzel has the potential to be a 20/20 guy at 3b. I guess it depends on the makeup of your team; for example if you have a young 3b already Jimenez is definitely a go.

If you're drafting on pure value alone, probably go Jimenez like yourself and others have said.

 

[Garlando]

Have you already made the pick?

I would be interested in seeing your roster. Jimenez is certainly a higher ceiling prospect, but Senzel has the potential to be a 20/20 guy at 3b. I guess it depends on the makeup of your team; for example if you have a young 3b already Jimenez is definitely a go.

If you're drafting on pure value alone, probably go Jimenez like yourself and others have said.

The league is a standard 5x5 scoring format with 12 teams.

My Current team is as follows:

C: Willson Contreras
1b: Brandon Belt
2b: Devon Travis
SS: Addison Russell
3b: Alex Bregman
OF: Odubel Herrera
OF: Ender Inciarte
OF: David Peralta
UTIL: Jose Ramirez
UTIL: Miguel Sano
UTIL: Tim Anderson
UTIL: Mitch Haniger

Be: Mike Moustakas, Raimel Tapia, Tom Murphy

P: Jose Berrios
P: Seung-Hwan Oh
P: Edwin Diaz
P: Jose De Leon
P: Cody Allen
P: Michael Fulmer

Be: Drew Smyly, Blake Snell, Robbie Ray, Kelvin Herrera (FA grab right after Wade Davis trade).

Also have Victor Robles, Lucas Giolito, Kyle Zimmer, and Delvin Perez in my minor league system.

I made a bunch of trades to get younger once I got control of the team, and it doesn't look nearly as bad as when I first started.

Traded Kenley Jansen and Mark Melancon for Alex Bregman and Cody Allen (owner thought Miller was going to close after CLE acquired him) plus we swapped 2nd round draft picks.

Traded Kyle Schwarber, Matt Carpenter and Orlando Arcia, for Addison Russell, Blake Snell, and Odubel Herrera.

Traded Jason Kipnis and Starling Marte for Miguel Sano, Lucas Giolito, Jose Ramirez.

Traded Jacoby Ellsbury for Michael Fulmer.

I also found a couple gems in the FA pool like Jose De Leon for some reason and Tom Murphy. It's only a 2 round prospect draft so there are gems to be found.

Still think Eloy Jiminez is the right choice for 1st overall pick in the upcoming draft?

 

[rangerssharks414]

The league is a standard 5x5 scoring format with 12 teams.

My Current team is as follows:

C: Willson Contreras
1b: Brandon Belt
2b: Devon Travis
SS: Addison Russell
3b: Alex Bregman
OF: Odubel Herrera
OF: Ender Inciarte
OF: David Peralta
UTIL: Jose Ramirez
UTIL: Miguel Sano
UTIL: Tim Anderson
UTIL: Mitch Haniger

Be: Mike Moustakas, Raimel Tapia, Tom Murphy

P: Jose Berrios
P: Seung-Hwan Oh
P: Edwin Diaz
P: Jose De Leon
P: Cody Allen
P: Michael Fulmer

Be: Drew Smyly, Blake Snell, Robbie Ray, Kelvin Herrera (FA grab right after Wade Davis trade).

Also have Victor Robles, Lucas Giolito, Kyle Zimmer, and Delvin Perez in my minor league system.

I made a bunch of trades to get younger once I got control of the team, and it doesn't look nearly as bad as when I first started.

Traded Kenley Jansen and Mark Melancon for Alex Bregman and Cody Allen (owner thought Miller was going to close after CLE acquired him) plus we swapped 2nd round draft picks.

Traded Kyle Schwarber, Matt Carpenter and Orlando Arcia, for Addison Russell, Blake Snell, and Odubel Herrera.

Traded Jason Kipnis and Starling Marte for Miguel Sano, Lucas Giolito, Jose Ramirez.

Traded Jacoby Ellsbury for Michael Fulmer.

I also found a couple gems in the FA pool like Jose De Leon for some reason and Tom Murphy. It's only a 2 round prospect draft so there are gems to be found.

Still think Eloy Jiminez is the right choice for 1st overall pick in the upcoming draft?

Wow, why would any owner of Bregman do that in a dynasty?

Is it a separate minor league system where it is kept track of manually? (which is how I run my league) Or, do you use the Yahoo NA spots (or even better, Fantrax)?

 

[bluesfan94]

With bregman at third, then you definitely should take Jimenez

 

[Garlando]

Wow, why would any owner of Bregman do that in a dynasty?

Is it a separate minor league system where it is kept track of manually? (which is how I run my league) Or, do you use the Yahoo NA spots (or even better, Fantrax)?

Closers were at a premium come our trade deadline with the top teams in need of them and I was able to create a bidding war. I had guys offering the likes A.J. Pollock and other established studs but I was able to get Bregman out of the top team (he has a young and well-built offense so he could afford to move a hitter and top pitchers were a need) and couldn't say no.

And we use ESPN and track minors on the main page manually. I started a google doc for the league once I joined, though. Yahoo is way better for Dynasty leagues.

 

[Garlando]

I also have 3 picks in the upcoming draft. So I'm planning to take Eloy Jiminez with the first overall pick. Then I have a late first round pick I got in a trade before I joined the league and I'm planning to take Shohei Otani out of Japan if he's available. I'm told he's arguably the best pitcher not in the majors but he may not come to NA until at least next year or later. Worth waiting for imo. Then I have the last pick in the draft as I swapped 2nd round picks with the 1st place team in the Bregman deal and I'm thinking a guy like Rowdy Tellez could be there and would be a good fit. 152 wRC+ in AA as a 21-year-old with good BB and K rates along with plus power. He's underrated IMO and likely will be available. Thoughts?

 

[rangerssharks414]

I don't know who Tellez is since I haven't done research yet.

In my league, I'm not going to allow anyone to take Otani since he hasn't signed yet.

 

[sjsharks92]

In a standard 5x5 scoring league, which set of keepers do you guys like better?

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Jonathan Lucroy, and Jose Altuve

Or

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Trea Turner, and Yu Darvish

Thanks for the input in advance.

 

[Garlando]

In a standard 5x5 scoring league, which set of keepers do you guys like better?

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Jonathan Lucroy, and Jose Altuve

Or

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Trea Turner, and Yu Darvish

Thanks for the input in advance.

From a pure value standpoint, I like the Lucroy and Altuve side. If you plan to keep these players long term than I like the Trea Turner side with Darvish. Turner is young and on the up vs we probably already saw the peak of Altuve and Lucroy (although a full year in Texas may boost his numbers). Just my opinion.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Can you do Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Trea Turner, and Jose Altuve?

 

[rangerssharks414]

In a standard 5x5 scoring league, which set of keepers do you guys like better?

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Jonathan Lucroy, and Jose Altuve

Or

Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, David Price, Trea Turner, and Yu Darvish

Thanks for the input in advance.

The top list is safer, while the bottom list is more upside and riskier.

 

[sjsharks92]

Thanks for the input guys.

Basically I'd be trading Jose Altuve for Trea Turner and Yu Darvish. I'd keep Turner and Darvish and as a result have to lose Lucroy as I wouldn't be able to retain him. I'm not sure if I want to make the deal yet or not. Altuve is a beast in all 5 categories but I also don't know if his power is sustainable and I also think that's probably as good a season as we're going to get from him. I'm also quite high on Turner and could use him in the OF.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Thanks for the input guys.

Basically I'd be trading Jose Altuve for Trea Turner and Yu Darvish. I'd keep Turner and Darvish and as a result have to lose Lucroy as I wouldn't be able to retain him. I'm not sure if I want to make the deal yet or not. Altuve is a beast in all 5 categories but I also don't know if his power is sustainable and I also think that's probably as good a season as we're going to get from him. I'm also quite high on Turner and could use him in the OF.

Turner won't be OF eligible after 2017 unless something goes horribly wrong.