F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

Bottomshelf · 2024-10-16T16:55:38-0400

If I’m trailing in a game I want Michkov. If I’m leading I want Demidov. Tied? Dealers choice, Michkov if you want a higher chance to score. Demidov if you want a more protective approach

HabsAddict · 2024-10-16T17:03:00-0400

Bottomshelf said:
If I’m trailing in a game I want Michkov. If I’m leading I want Demidov. Tied? Dealers choice, Michkov if you want a higher chance to score. Demidov if you want a more protective approach

We could pf had both...then we can trail and lead at the same time.

Yes, the thought of both is too brain wrecking...

Joking aside, has anybody consideted that both guys on the same team could lead into conflict? It's not the first time cliques have formed around players.

I'm not saying it will, but it can happen.

montreal · 2024-10-16T17:08:24-0400

SlobKnox said:
Demidov is not smarter than Michkov

we can ask them to take a test to see who wins then.

SlobKnox · 2024-10-16T17:24:13-0400

montreal said:
we can ask them to take a test to see who wins then.

Or we can just watch them both play.

a lot of misconceptions going on in both this and the Michkov thread. In no way is Demidov a smarter player than Michkov same way Michkov does have the dangling skill of Demidov.

JIMVINNY · 2024-10-16T17:24:47-0400

HabsAddict said:
We could pf had both...then we can trail and lead at the same time.

Yes, the thought of both is too brain wrecking...

Joking aside, has anybody consideted that both guys on the same team could lead into conflict? It's not the first time cliques have formed around players.

I'm not saying it will, but it can happen.

This relies on the notion that the Habs passed on Michkov knowing they'd get Demidov. They didn't.
They passed on Michkov for reasons that we will most likely never know, but it wasn't because of Demidov.

HabsAddict · 2024-10-16T18:13:44-0400

JIMVINNY said:
This relies on the notion that the Habs passed on Michkov knowing they'd get Demidov. They didn't.
They passed on Michkov for reasons that we will most likely never know, but it wasn't because of Demidov.

Even to suggest that the Habs passed on Michkov because they knew they were getting Demidov is up there with Santa and Easter Bunny.

ONLY way that was possible was to lose enough games to pick second. No way that was going to happen because they would have to deliberatly lose games and it would show.

The BPA at 5th was Michkov by a mile and Hughes went on need. Stupid move and first mistake.

Hopefully, his last major mistake.

MoneyManny · 2024-10-16T18:27:44-0400

HabsAddict said:
Even to suggest that the Habs passed on Michkov because they knew they were getting Demidov is up there with Santa and Easter Bunny.

ONLY way that was possible was to lose enough games to pick second. No way that was going to happen because they would have to deliberatly lose games and it would show.

The BPA at 5th was Michkov by a mile and Hughes went on need. Stupid move and first mistake.

Hopefully, his last major mistake.

If it was Bergevin we probably would of whiffed on both to draft tall centers who "need some time to develop" instead, so at least the glass is half full with Demigod in the pipeline.

No front office is gonna bat for .1000 at the draft.

montreal · 2024-10-16T18:55:41-0400

SlobKnox said:
Or we can just watch them both play.

a lot of misconceptions going on in both this and the Michkov thread. In no way is Demidov a smarter player than Michkov same way Michkov does have the dangling skill of Demidov.

feel free, I have every game Demidov has played this year, plus around 30 of last year games. I have several Michkov vids from his time in the VHL and MHL going back to when he was 15,

Hab Prospect Videos

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Just Linda · 2024-10-17T01:06:08-0400

HabsAddict said:
Habs made a huge mistake drafting this no good rebel player.

He should be benched for the rest of the season for scoring and making his brilliant coach look like a door knob.

Imagine if he carries this insubordination to the NHL. He will do horrible things like put on a penalty kill and instead, goes on the offense and scores.

Terrible draft choice...

Funny you mention this the same day the report comes out saying that SKA offered Demidov an extension and the benching was punishment for not signing it.

Grate n Colorful Oz · 2024-10-17T09:22:16-0400

HabsAddict · 2024-10-17T11:59:02-0400

Just Linda said:
Funny you mention this the same day the report comes out saying that SKA offered Demidov an extension and the benching was punishment for not signing it.

You have a link on this?

I suspected it was so weeks ago and wrote about it as a typical Russian "business" move. If a credible report came out and said it, it's not news or remotely shocking to me.

Kshahdoo · 2024-10-17T12:26:37-0400

SKA sent Marchenko to the VHL when he refused to resign with the club so Marchenko played his last season in Russia in the minor league. Still scored 20 goals the next season in the NHL.

So the rumor about Demidov refusing to resign with SKA as the reason they don't play him is pretty believable.

FlyguyOX · 2024-10-17T12:49:46-0400

Just Linda said:
Funny you mention this the same day the report comes out saying that SKA offered Demidov an extension and the benching was punishment for not signing it.

Wait, I thought the coach only benched young talented players because they simply weren't good enough for the team?

HabsAddict · 2024-10-17T13:25:18-0400

Here is a link to the story. I have no idea how credible the source is...

Ivan Demidov: his (triple) refusal to sign a new contract affects his playing time

Ivan Demidov’s playing time is the talk of the town. And it’s always been clear that a factor that has nothing to do with hockey as such must affect his (very) limited playing time, because on the ice, Demidov makes magic.

www.yardbarker.com

TheKrebsCycle · 2024-10-17T13:41:27-0400

HabsAddict said:
Here is a link to the story. I have no idea how credible the source is...

Ivan Demidov: his (triple) refusal to sign a new contract affects his playing time

Ivan Demidov’s playing time is the talk of the town. And it’s always been clear that a factor that has nothing to do with hockey as such must affect his (very) limited playing time, because on the ice, Demidov makes magic.

www.yardbarker.com

Never heard of the source but kinda adds up .

SaSaShi · 2024-10-17T14:06:18-0400

Watching demidov tonight, guy is an absolute stud. dangerous nearly every shift, great handles great passing. Anaheim, Columbus and Chicago will regret passing on him. Looks more offensively gifted than Celebrini as well.

HabsAddict · 2024-10-17T14:39:29-0400

TheKrebsCycle said:
Never heard of the source but kinda adds up .

I had ONE interaction with a fairly large Russian company as a technical consultant for a Canadian multibillion dollar company looking to buy in and extend yheir business there.

I have no idea how representitive that company was of the general business atmosphere...but...that was all i needed to confirm everything negative i ever heard in doing business there.

Xirik · 2024-10-17T14:49:32-0400

Don't know why he's not put on Gritsyuk's line. They'd help each other pad their stats.

montreal · 2024-10-17T15:25:31-0400

Just Missed Getting Assist 0:41
Assist 1:49
Causes Turnover 3:22
Causes Another Turnover Gets Breakaway 5:57

Gustave · 2024-10-17T15:55:23-0400

Xirik said:
Don't know why he's not put on Gritsyuk's line. They'd help each other pad their stats.

Ironically, you just answered your own question.

Xirik · 2024-10-17T16:12:13-0400

Gustave said:
Ironically, you just answered your own question.

because scoring more goals and getting assists is bad?

Gustave · 2024-10-17T16:19:33-0400

Xirik said:
because scoring more goals and getting assists is bad?

Can’t risk your prime prospect leading your team in points and refuses to sign a contract with you only to bolt to the NHL the next season. Doesn’t look good for Roman to not retain your rising star.

It’s all an ego thing, if it were a normal coach, he’d want to help his team win and play his better players together.

montreal · 2024-10-17T16:37:05-0400

his brother scored a beauty in the VHL today,

Romanov Goal/Demidov Assist 0:22
Romanov Goal 0:56
Romanov Goal/Demidov Assist 1:21
Demidov Scores a Beauty 1:47

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