Confirmed with Link: F David Kampf re-signs in Toronto (4 years, $2.4M AAV)

[SeaOfBlue]

I'm a Kampf fan but this potentially blocks Holmberg at least from playing centre who showed he's an NHL player with some offensive potential.

I don't think Kampf is blocking anyone. Holmberg doesn't project to be a center to me.

Really, it segues perfectly into Minten, who probably needs another 4 years before he can become a 4C.

Let's just hope Minten can at least develop into that.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Maple Leafs dip into the London pipeline to find first-rounder Easton Cowan

Winger wasn’t projected for the first round but Leafs liked his growth and his upside.

www.thestar.com

Though the draft is handy way to restock the prospects cupboard, the Leafs are more about the here and now than the future. And that’s why the Kämpf deal is interesting. The four-year, $9.6-million (U.S.) deal, with a cap hit of $2.4 million a season, is a significant raise from the two-year, $3-million deal the checking centre signed two years ago with Toronto.

Kämpf had seven goals and hit career highs in assists (20) and points (27) while playing a shutdown role. Though he centred either the third or fourth lines, he also led Leafs forwards in penalty killing and was sixth in ice time by the club’s forwards.

“He would have done very well in unrestricted free agency,” a source told the Star.

NHL salary cap analyst James Finch, of AFP Analytics, called it an overpay by about $800,000 a year.

“He seemed to greatly benefit from playing with Pierre Engvall,” Finch said. “A big part of Kampf’s game is supposed to be his real solid defensive play. Only issue with that is when Kampf no longer had Engvall on his wing, he struggled.”

Kämpf’s deal is the first the team would like to make with its pending free agents. Conversations continue with representatives of Ryan O’Reilly, Alex Kerfoot, Noel Acciari and Luke Schenn in the hopes of re-signing as many as possible before they hit unrestricted free agency on Saturday.

It’s doubtful they can sign them all given the team has about $12 million in cap space, according to capfriendly.com. And Kampf’s re-signing may mean the team is moving on from O’Reilly, who promises to be in high demand come July 1.

 

[alliuk12]

Wow they are really running it back again……..who’s next, Kerfoot and Holl?

jesus don't you dare say holl is coming back if he do it will be the first time in 68 years that i'll give up on the leafs

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I'm not an expert, so I don't know if it was a "fair" deal or not, but this signing is being almost universally criticised by analysts and fans.

Too much money, and too much term, for a fourth line chump. Let's face it, the only one who bought Kampf's jersey is his mom. The guy has cinder blocks attached to his wrists where his hands are supposed to be.

The Leafs try to pass off Kampf's lack of production by letting on that he's elite defensively, but all that really means is he can't score.

Like me in high school.

 

[Torontonian]

I'm not an expert, so I don't know if it was a "fair" deal or not, but this signing is being almost universally criticised by analysts and fans.

Too much money, and too much term, for a fourth line chump. Let's face it, the only one who bought Kampf's jersey is his mom. The guy has cinder blocks attached to his wrists where his hands are supposed to be.

The Leafs try to pass off Kampf's lack of production by letting on that he's elite defensively, but all that really means is he can't score.

Like me in high school.

That's because for some reason most people keep calling him a #4 centerman when its pretty clear he's going to be the 3rd line centerman and they are moving on from ROR. Kampf TOI and usage show us that he's used a 3rd line center and not a 4th line one, a low end 3C might I add.

2.4m is probably about 400k overpaid, he was going to get a raise from his previous 1.5m cap hit, but they got someone that's defensively sound and someone on our PK1 unit, it will be on the wingers to run wild on the 3rd line and produce while Kampf plays defensively.

 

[leafs in five]

Maple Leafs dip into the London pipeline to find first-rounder Easton Cowan

Winger wasn’t projected for the first round but Leafs liked his growth and his upside.

www.thestar.com

Though the draft is handy way to restock the prospects cupboard, the Leafs are more about the here and now than the future. And that’s why the Kämpf deal is interesting. The four-year, $9.6-million (U.S.) deal, with a cap hit of $2.4 million a season, is a significant raise from the two-year, $3-million deal the checking centre signed two years ago with Toronto.

Kämpf had seven goals and hit career highs in assists (20) and points (27) while playing a shutdown role. Though he centred either the third or fourth lines, he also led Leafs forwards in penalty killing and was sixth in ice time by the club’s forwards.

“He would have done very well in unrestricted free agency,” a source told the Star.

NHL salary cap analyst James Finch, of AFP Analytics, called it an overpay by about $800,000 a year.

“He seemed to greatly benefit from playing with Pierre Engvall,” Finch said. “A big part of Kampf’s game is supposed to be his real solid defensive play. Only issue with that is when Kampf no longer had Engvall on his wing, he struggled.”

Kämpf’s deal is the first the team would like to make with its pending free agents. Conversations continue with representatives of Ryan O’Reilly, Alex Kerfoot, Noel Acciari and Luke Schenn in the hopes of re-signing as many as possible before they hit unrestricted free agency on Saturday.

It’s doubtful they can sign them all given the team has about $12 million in cap space, according to capfriendly.com. And Kampf’s re-signing may mean the team is moving on from O’Reilly, who promises to be in high demand come July 1.

it's settled then, we will sign Engvall too

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

That's because for some reason most people keep calling him a #4 centerman when its pretty clear he's going to be the 3rd line centerman and they are moving on from ROR. Kampf TOI and usage show us that he's used a 3rd line center and not a 4th line one, a low end 3C might I add.

2.4m is probably about 400k overpaid, he was going to get a raise from his previous 1.5m cap hit, but they got someone that's defensively sound and someone on our PK1 unit, it will be on the wingers to run wild on the 3rd line and produce while Kampf plays defensively.

$2.4M is probably good for a 3C.

7 goals is not.

I guess Treliving looked at Kampf's 27 points last year and figured he just HAD to have Kampf on the team for the next four years.

You just can't win without guys like that on the team.

 

[Torontonian]

$2.4M is probably good for a 3C.

7 goals is not.

I guess Treliving looked at Kampf's 27 points last year and figured he just HAD to have Kampf on the team for the next four years.

You just can't win without guys like that on the team.

I agree, you cannot win without players that play 15 mins+ a night, that start every shift in his own zone, and is apart of a quality PK unit. Rather pay Kampf 2.4m then paying someone else in FA more money which is far riskier.

Either way, this deal doesn’t make or break Toronto winning or not; but that’s a different issue all together.

 

[TheRumble]

People arguing that Kampf is a shutdown center are once again, out of their god damn minds.

A shutdown center plays on the 3rd line and usually matches up against the opposing team's most offensive line. Kampf was our 3C in 2021-22 and vs Tampa Bay in the playoffs he was matched up vs Tampa's third line of Palat, Nick Paul and Killorn and guess which Tampa player led their team in 5v5 goals? Palat.

He's a defensively responsible center that I'd be fine with having back at the right price. $2.4x4 with a modified NTC is not that price.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

2.4 mil for one the best defensive bottom 6 forwards in the league isn't too bad. One the best pkers in the league too. We need to stop cheaping out. He's a specialist role so it's fine. It's vanillas who are only average at everything like Kerfoot we can't middle class contracts to but is 2.4 even middle class yet.

 

[justashadowof]

It's up to Holmberg whether Kampf is blocking him from being a 3rd line center.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I agree, you cannot win without players that play 15 mins+ a night, that start every shift in his own zone, and is apart of a quality PK unit. Rather pay Kampf 2.4m then paying someone else in FA more money which is far riskier.

Either way, this deal doesn’t make or break Toronto winning or not; but that’s a different issue all together.

The issue for most people, from what I can gather, is that Kampf is gonna be used over his head.

He's being asked to perform 3C duties. For the next four years. Because they can't afford anyone better.

But he's only a 4C in most people's minds.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

People arguing that Kampf is a shutdown center are once again, out of their god damn minds.

A shutdown center plays on the 3rd line and usually matches up against the opposing team's most offensive line. Kampf was our 3C in 2021-22 and vs Tampa Bay in the playoffs he was matched up vs Tampa's third line of Palat, Nick Paul and Killorn and guess which Tampa player led their team in 5v5 goals? Palat.

He's a defensively responsible center that I'd be fine with having back at the right price. $2.4x4 with a modified NTC is not that price.

Why are they giving bottom of the roster scrubs M-NTC's anyway?

When did it suddenly become fashionable to hand out NTC's to everyone that wants one? What did Kampf do in return? Did he give a discount on the AAV for the team giving him one?

From my understanding the consensus seems to be that he was overpaid.

Once upon a time, those NTC's were used for star players that had earned the right to determine their future. They weren't meant for third and fourth line duds to hold a team hostage if things go sour. You would think they would have learned their lesson after the whole Kadri thing.

I guess not.

 

[Nineteen67]

Why are they giving bottom of the roster scrubs M-NTC's anyway?

When did it suddenly become fashionable to hand out NTC's to everyone that wants one? What did Kampf do in return? Did he give a discount on the AAV for the team giving him one?

From my understanding the consensus seems to be that he was overpaid.

Once upon a time, those NTC's were used for star players that had earned the right to determine their future. They weren't meant for third and fourth line duds to hold a team hostage if things go sour. You would think they would have learned their lesson after the whole Kadri thing.

I guess not.

NTC make draft night more interesting

On OverDrive the other night Hayes said over 220 players had a no move clause. Ridiculous.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

NTC make draft night more interesting

On OverDrive the other night Hayes said over 220 players had a no move clause. Ridiculous.

If that's true, that's an average of almost seven players a team with some form of trade protection.

These teams are giving the players way too much power. Giving guys like Kampf any sort of trade protection just cheapens having it as a bargaining tool. It seems like everyone who is eligible for it just expects it these days.

And teams give it to them.

 

[Nineteen67]

If that's true, that's an average of almost seven players a team with some form of trade protection.

These teams are giving the players way too much power. Giving guys like Kampf any sort of trade protection just cheapens having it as a bargaining tool. It seems like everyone who is eligible for it just expects it these days.

And teams give it to them.

CapFriendly shows 210 players with a some form of a movement clause, including stars like Sean Kuraly and the Bois Bois Calle.

I can see why players might have some places they don’t want to live and play but not everyone should be given that option.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

I agree, you cannot win without players that play 15 mins+ a night, that start every shift in his own zone, and is apart of a quality PK unit. Rather pay Kampf 2.4m then paying someone else in FA more money which is far riskier.

Either way, this deal doesn’t make or break Toronto winning or not; but that’s a different issue all together.

Stop making sense man. This is clearly the straw that broke the camels back and many people are not watching a single game this year because Brad has already "ruined" the team...

 

[Duffman955]

I hoped we went a diff route, but hea a good player, who has still more offense to show.

A bit more expensive than I would have liked, but meh. I think we signed him cause ROR negotiations went south

 

[hockeywiz542]

According to Nick Kypreos:

- the Toronto Maple Leafs found out that 2 or 3 teams might have been willing to offer David Kämpf $2.5 million per year

- there is a 10 team no-trade clause in David Kämpf's contract

- if Pontus Holmberg can hold down the 3C spot eventually, then the Toronto Maple Leafs might be able to trade David Kampf in the future

 

[CelticDruid]

According to Nick Kypreos:

- the Toronto Maple Leafs found out that 2 or 3 teams might have been willing to offer David Kämpf $2.5 million per year

- there is a 10 team no-trade clause in David Kämpf's contract

- if Pontus Holmberg can hold down the 3C spot eventually, then the Toronto Maple Leafs might be able to trade David Kampf in the future

Thanks for all your updates Hockeywizz.

 

[Legion34]

People arguing that Kampf is a shutdown center are once again, out of their god damn minds.

A shutdown center plays on the 3rd line and usually matches up against the opposing team's most offensive line. Kampf was our 3C in 2021-22 and vs Tampa Bay in the playoffs he was matched up vs Tampa's third line of Palat, Nick Paul and Killorn and guess which Tampa player led their team in 5v5 goals? Palat.

He's a defensively responsible center that I'd be fine with having back at the right price. $2.4x4 with a modified NTC is not that price.

He had a bad series against Tampa

He was one of our best players against florida

 

[LaPlante94]

To the people who say Kampf is a blackhole offensively and use those charts as the eviedence, just remember those same charts said the same about Amadio when we had him and look at him now. People had no problem defending Kerfoot and his contract but complain about this contract at an actual needed position.

 

[Havoc]

You guys need to show more respect to one of our best defensive forwards. This signing saves us the dreaded "we should have just paid kampf the 2.4" comments 6 months from now when the cheaper bandaid bootleg version gets slapped around

 

[Sypher04]

To the people who say Kampf is a blackhole offensively and use those charts as the eviedence, just remember those same charts said the same about Amadio when we had him and look at him now. People had no problem defending Kerfoot and his contract but complain about this contract at an actual needed position.

I don’t disagree with your main point, but Kerfoot was pretty unanimously considered overpaid

 

[LaPlante94]

I don’t disagree with your main point, but Kerfoot was pretty unanimously considered overpaid

People still defended him being on this roster despite him being overpaid and barely scoring 10 goals. Dubas even went to great lengths just to keep protecting this guy when we had 2 chances to get rid of him and we even gave away a draft pick to St Louis just to keep him on the 4th line. He played a position we could've easily replaced in house with someone like Holmberg or even ZAR who really turned it on after the TDL unlike Kampf, but yet here we are and they are complaining just because it's a signing by Treliving and not their boy over there in Pittsburgh.