Executives / employees at risk of leaving for Pittsburgh???

[ToneDog]

if it was up to me i'd definitely force him to take murray, keefe, tavares.

i guess he signs holl and kerfoot as ufas since he didnt want to trade them.

btw the dubas fan club that has been anti leafs since he has been let go can also join him and the pens board.

its disgusting reading posts that on purpose want the leafs to do bad just b/c dubas isnt here; heck i hated every second of dubas; raised alarms about the construction of the team and how badly it was managed but was never actively cheering for bad things to happen to the leafs. i am seriously disgusted by those posts

The Dubas family clan has no bounds. No long suffering true fan would be cheering for bad things to happen to his team because the GM left. They are as embarrassing as the head of the snake.

 

[Antropovsky]

I'm a little surprised Chayka hasn't found a team yet. He's still responsible for the only good parts of the Phoenix team, Keller, Schmaltz, Crouse, Maccelli. He wisely traded Perlini, Strome for Schmaltz. He drafted Keller, Chychrun. He acquired Crouse. He drafted Macelli in the 4th round.

He also signed Chychrun and Keller and Schmaltz to all great contracts.

Chychrun - makes only 4.6
Keller - only 7.25
Schmaltz - 5.8

Personally I think what he was able to do with a team with a fraction of the money Dubas had is incredible. If Dubas was in Phoenix he would've signed Keller to 9 million per, and Chychrun to 8 million. Min deals.

 

[Racer88]

I thought he had a reasonable explanation for that.

He was out of work, his kids are heading to school, and he knew he had to leave Toronto and his kids would be yanked out of school.

They toured Pittsburgh and liked it and since he knew he was going to have to move anyway, why not just take the great offer he had. Which was what he wanted in Toronto anyway.

Then why did he tell the world it’s the Leafs or nothing

 

[Ciao]

Pridham would seem to be a possible target. Seems to be very respected and a so-called cap genius. Dubas said his new GM in pittsburgh could be "someone who is ‘progressive’ and might feature a skillset he doesn’t have.". Not sure if Pridham is that guy, but I think with Dubas's ego, as VP he's going to call alot of the shots and his GM will be someone who follows Kyle's lead. Of course I have no proof of that but just my feeling. Pridham would fit that bill, and as a current AGM, a promotion to a GM position may well entice him to walk. Dubas also said he wouldn't hire one until after June as alot are under contract until then and he'd need "permissions". I think he'll be shopping in the Leafs yard for sure.

I think Dubas' description of a new GM was a cue to Pridham. Reunited soon, with Spezza and Wickenheiser in the fold too.

 

[Ciao]

Hopefully not Pridham or Curtis Sanford. Those 2 would be hard to replace.

They're probably both under contract for a while. Pridham could probably leave for a promotion elsewhere Sanford would not likely be available for a similar position.

 

[ULF_55]

Then why did he tell the world it’s the Leafs or nothing

Time does not stand still.

Shanahan threw him overboard.

Shanahan lied? He said he had a contract for Dubas but then he didn't.

 

[Racer88]

Time does not stand still.

Shanahan threw him overboard.

Shanahan lied? He said he had a contract for Dubas but then he didn't.

I think they all lied…….a real nest of vipers

 

[ToneDog]

Anybody that is still in mourning over Dubas leaving should be shown the door.

 

[keonsbitterness]

How do you explain "It is Toronto or nothing" and "you won't see me popping up anywhere" at the Monday afternoon presser ??

He did say "next week", so a judge would probably acquit him on a technicality.

 

[Hellcat]

There are rumors that Shanny is back to his old tricks, Poulin is quoted as saying that Shanny ghosted him for months before he was let go. Apparently some MLSE employees are reporting no contact with Shanny, noting that it was common for them to have regular contact with Shanny before Dubas left. So yes there will be people who are let go and some people who will quit on their own.

There is also the trust factor, who is going to be a back door information leak for Dubas if he is looking for some insights into what the Leafs are doing behind closed doors? Those people need to be identified quickly and shown the door.

 

[rocketman588]

The mental gymnastics laundry list of excuses that that portion of this “fan base” threw out over the years, but, especially the last 2 was absolutely insane.

Even in the last two weeks. It has all become Shanny's fault because apparently he was the "blocking all of Dubas's good moves"

Especially disappointed with the SDPN guys in the past they've at least been balanced with stuff. Now it's just 100% Dubas shill BS

 

[Racer88]

He did say "next week", so a judge would probably acquit him on a technicality.

Good point

 

[ULF_55]

Anybody that is still in mourning over Dubas leaving should be shown the door.

I think most people were happy when Punch II was turfed.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Dubas will fit right in with the pencil pushing know it alls at the 'Fenway Sports Group'. Already their PR team is working overdrive on elevating Kyle as a 'progressive young hockey mind'. Shanahan should be blamed for a lot, but not for how he handled the Dubas situation. Dubas, in his own actions, displayed that he did not respect the opportunity that the Organization (and by extension Shanahan) provided. Dubas was absolutely tone deaf during his press conference, especially towards long following fans that suffered greater hardships through a pandemic for the last 2 and a half years. Anybody that is 'mourning' the firing of this snake oil salesman in this organization needs to be let go as well. This was the first step in instilling pride back into this organization.

 

[Menzinger]

There are rumors that Shanny is back to his old tricks, Poulin is quoted as saying that Shanny ghosted him for months before he was let go. Apparently some MLSE employees are reporting no contact with Shanny, noting that it was common for them to have regular contact with Shanny before Dubas left. So yes there will be people who are let go and some people who will quit on their own.

There is also the trust factor, who is going to be a back door information leak for Dubas if he is looking for some insights into what the Leafs are doing behind closed doors? Those people need to be identified quickly and shown the door.

One thing I'd be genuinely curious to learn is how much is Shanny physically at the leafs offices over the course of the season - or if he don't most of his time overseeing things from a distance via email and zoom meetings. He lives in NYC afterall.

Ive yet to read a good media report that ever clarified it.

 

[thusk]

I guess it's time to question the entire Pridham narrative.


Is he a contract guy? By most accounts, yes. What's so special about what he has done in this area that someone else qualified for that job couldn't also do?
Is he a capologist? Big deal. There are 31 other teams who also don't violate the cap and manage cap space during the season. Good at math and spreadsheets, have the ability to understand the cap regulations? A CPA could do that job, no problem.
Is he a master talent evaluator? I haven't seen that stated ever.

Pridham may be the most qualified person on the planet for interpreting the CBA and the Cap. That was, you know, his job. He’ll be able to exploit every technicality and grey area to find even the slightest hair of an edge

You cant minimize every advantage you can have

 

[Clark4Ever]

There's no cap on Pridham's salary, I'd pay him whatever salary Dubas was making and I wouldn't think twice. He's incredibly valuable in managing the cap and finding creative ways of making things work.

Pridham is more valuable to us than any other team in the league because of our cap structure.

 

[The Iceman]

I wonder why the July reference was thrown out there by Dubas?
Anyone contracted only until the end of June that we know??

It would have been easy for him to say the GM search will begin, but no rush.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I think most people were happy when Punch II was turfed.

Unfortunately it wasn't possible for Ballard to go with him.

 

[Maple Leaf]

They can have all of them

 

[trellaine201]

I think Pridham is good as gone.

 

[notbias]

btw the dubas fan club that has been anti leafs since he has been let go can also join him and the pens board.

its disgusting reading posts that on purpose want the leafs to do bad just b/c dubas isnt here; heck i hated every second of dubas; raised alarms about the construction of the team and how badly it was managed but was never actively cheering for bad things to happen to the leafs. i am seriously disgusted by those posts

You realize how insane you sound right?

This whole board was so negative for his whole tenure with some senile posters who were upset we hired someone younger than their kids, it doesn't mean that these posters wanted the team to lose.

No actual fans want the team to do badly, just like outside of a few posters no one here wanted the Leafs to do badly when Dubas was in charge, just a difference of opinion on what is best for the team.

I for one am not sold on Treliving, I think he will make some bad decisions based on his history, but am hoping for the best and I like him more than a lot of other options.

I also find it puzzling how so many people who were screaming for results and experience now are fine with someone who has essentially the same experience and results as Dubas being put in place. Not to mention the amount of people that are fine with Shanny now that he fired Dubas, it is insane to me.

 

[LeafEgo]

I guess it's time to question the entire Pridham narrative.


Is he a contract guy? By most accounts, yes. What's so special about what he has done in this area that someone else qualified for that job couldn't also do?
Is he a capologist? Big deal. There are 31 other teams who also don't violate the cap and manage cap space during the season. Good at math and spreadsheets, have the ability to understand the cap regulations? A CPA could do that job, no problem.
Is he a master talent evaluator? I haven't seen that stated ever.

I suspect based on his reputation that he is a strong managerial presence in the front office, and adds quite a bit of value. Whatever that might be.

But you're right about the capoligist storyline, it's been crazy for years. Every team in the league has someone just as good at that or they dropped the ball big time. Being able to scenario plan around a book of rules to perfection is not that difficult a skill set to come by.

 

[Azail]

I suspect based on his reputation that he is a strong managerial presence in the front office, and adds quite a bit of value. Whatever that might be.

But you're right about the capoligist storyline, it's been crazy for years. Every team in the league has someone just as good at that or they dropped the ball big time. Being able to scenario plan around a book of rules to perfection is not that difficult a skill set to come by.

I think his value was closer to the creation of the cap, as others were still working around it. But really, every team in the NHL manages the cap, exploits loopholes etc. There isn't ONE guy in the NHL that knows how to do it. Not saying he is bad at his job, but to think he is the only one that can do it is a little ridiculous.

 

[LeafEgo]

There are rumors that Shanny is back to his old tricks, Poulin is quoted as saying that Shanny ghosted him for months before he was let go. Apparently some MLSE employees are reporting no contact with Shanny, noting that it was common for them to have regular contact with Shanny before Dubas left. So yes there will be people who are let go and some people who will quit on their own.

There is also the trust factor, who is going to be a back door information leak for Dubas if he is looking for some insights into what the Leafs are doing behind closed doors? Those people need to be identified quickly and shown the door.

You can never make too much of rumors, but if it's true that Shanny put him on the outs a while ago, and most teams were only interested in bringing him on in an advisory role with potential for another big role down the road, it would provide some common sense to the madness.

But sometimes you have a buddy at Fenway.