Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread

NWWisconsinDuck

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Prob too rich for my liking, don’t think I’d give up 3 premiums(z 1st and zell), but was mostly just curious

Def could see Anaheim kicking tires, we’ll see if pv is more willing.
I would probably consider it if you swapped out Zellweger for Mintyukov and made it

McTavish, Mintyukov, 1st protected, etc
 

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I mean yea, if you get good enough offers you trade both of them, to two different teams of course but yea.
It does seem clear that the ‘nothing’ outcome is not a serious option though. There is too way too much noise, and beyond that, they’re contributing to it.
 
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Im on the edge of my seat waiting for...

...hang on, let me re-read the bulletpoints...

...ok, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for literally anything and nothing at the same time
 
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Even this gets "nothing to see here" posts? Canucks are definitely looking at the market for both and want a center + in return. Friedman heavily hints Zibenjad has been offered and rejected. This is pretty juicy stuff imo, as good as it gets realistically.

Carolina can offer Kotkaniemi +, or Necas if Vancouver is willing to convince themselves he can play C and possibly get a deal done imo. The constraint that they want an NHL center in return makes a trade difficult to consumate though and I struggle to see many other suitors.
 
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Honestly, i am liking these McTavish As the main C in a package for ep40.

Would have to add much more, but it makes a lot of sense
Yeah, as a neutral fan, McTavish would be a good fit, not sure what Anaheim would be willing to add, but agree, it would have to have a lot of value.
 

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I just can’t see any team retaining for 7 years ever.

I just don’t think Boston has a headliner for an EP deal. I think that Miller’s age and NMC power could give Boston a shot by packaging of their 2Cs and one of their 2nd pairing D and whatever Frederic’s/picks/prospects make sense.
Isn’t San Jose retaining 7 years on Hertl?
 
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Surprising at some of these packages for EP with his new contract extension for so long/so high in AAV.

I would think not many teams would want to touch that with his current play. Or at least not ship off premium assets to take the contract on.
 

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You need to take back 11 million in salary…figure it out
No one retains for that many years.

Surprising at some of these packages for EP with his new contract extension for so long/so high in AAV.

I would think not many teams would want to touch that with his current play. Or at least not ship off premium assets to take the contract on.
Based on the playoffs Miller is probably more attractive a player as well. He’s much more tradable with a good cap hit.
 

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Honestly, i am liking these McTavish As the main C in a package for ep40.

Would have to add much more, but it makes a lot of sense
Surprising at some of these packages for EP with his new contract extension for so long/so high in AAV.

I would think not many teams would want to touch that with his current play. Or at least not ship off premium assets to take the contract on.
I’d offer up 2 premiums pretty comfortably

Mctavish + 1st(with lottery win protection)
I wouldn’t go with a 3rd premium based on the reasons @Hockey4Lyfe listed…. But I’d offer up 2-3 of guys like
Helleson, tarin smith, dioncicio, proczzyn, burnvik, Terrance, hinds , colangelo etc

Solberg Mintyukov sennecke I see as future core pieces for us….. if Vancouver wanted a guy like Mintyukov I’d prob take mctavish/zegras out of the picture.
 
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This all seems insane. Is there not some sort of sports psychologist Vancouver can bring in to mediate? These guys are highly paid professionals. Shouldn’t be trading either one away because of personality conflicts.
I’m not saying no trade will happen - and it’s possible EP and Miller don’t mesh - but Allvin said he was supportive of Miller taking the time off he needed, so I suspect it’s a personal matter behind that.

I still remember the takes here from non-Canucks fans (and some Canucks fans) when Rypien took time away.

Also, the complete extent of Allvin’s comments on trading EP were to a direct question about a trade where he said “anything is possible”, which is really thin.

The fact is, trades with this leadership have often come out of the clear blue sky - and hyped up gossip about “for sure” trades have amounted to zilch multiple times now.


IMO EP only goes if he’s indicated he wants out. Miller I’m less clear on, because his personal stuff is a question mark. My guess is nothing happens.

In the long run, we’re all worm food.
 

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