Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread

[bossram]

Positive, I’m up and coffee is great!

Unfortunately the mysterious third option of evolving into a parallel universe overnight that draws all things Canucks, Leafs, Canadiens, and Avs into the void making this place tolerable for everyone else didn’t happen. Sorry all!

To turn this topical, Miller is someone you win with. If you have a strong room vested in just that, he is not a problem. Petterson is a non-serious player. He’d fit in well with what the Hawks are trying to do IMO. Trade both so we can go back to important things like hearing about what will happen to something called Nils Hoglander.

BAHAHAHAHA. Incredible.

You can't win with him because as soon as there's any adversity, he actively makes it worse by completely ending any on-ice effort (there's gotta be a a sizzle reel out there of JT's "controller disconnected" moments") and throwing temper tantrums on ice and on the bench.

The Canucks trading Eichel is 1:1 analogous to Buffalo trading Eichel. If they do it, they will lose the trade hilariously and continue to circle the drain. The other trade party will have pulled off a coup.

 

[Oddbob]

That’s literally the dumbest tweet in history masked as a rumor

Hey listen guys, one could be traded or neither could be

Wow groundbreaking

Exactly. "Hey, I listed every option, so stay tuned, as one could happen."

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

Im just a neutral fan trying to think of even trades that benefit both sides. Remember both teams would need to give up positive assets in a trade of this magnitude, objectively speaking, bub

Yeah so feel free to suggest one where Vancouver does so, bub, lmao

 

[Melkor]

They haven't liked each other for a long time. There are rumours about that going back years.

It flared up because Miller's conduct was obviously to such a degree the team basically told him to sit at home for a month and think about what he's done (he was out for about a month on a "leave of absence").

Now more stories (notably from former Vancouver teammate Brad Richardson) are coming out about how Miller is a hard teammate and has been particularly hard on Pettersson.

I don't understand what prevents Pettersson from telling him to f*** off though. If you let them bully you - they sure will

 

[toolshed]

NYR are in a tough spot. They want to get rid of Zibananajed and they want Miller but no one is taking Zibananajad without retention.

I don't think thats the case. Zib has to be willing to go is the hold up.

 

[LuGBuG]

Aren’t these two adults? Can’t they just play them on seperate lines and PPs? Can they not just co-exist from opposites sites of the locker room and only play together when the net is empty? Like what could of possibly happened between them that’s so bad.

 

[toolshed]

Heres two potential trades to New York teams:

1)

To NYRangers: Pettersson, Silovs, Hoglander, Desharnais, 2028 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Cuyyle, Schneider, Lafreneire, 2025 1st, 2026 3rd, 2027 5th

2)

To NYIslanders: Miller, Hoglander, Kunz

To Vancouver: Dobson, Barzal, 2025 1st, 2026 2nd, 2026 4th

That is comical. Petterson better be at 75% retained.

 

[LaineBOOM]

Patrik Laine missed the 2 previous games due to "flu" and due to "fatigue". Guess who Montreal is playing next? Thats right, Vancouver. I can bet my buttocks that Patty is sitting out that one too, lets say due to "therapy day".

Meaning: they didnt want to make it too obvious that he is sitting out the Vancouver-game due to being later traded there.

So what type of deal are we looking at here? Im guessing something like J.T. Miller for Laine and a 2nd.

OR it involves the other absentee, Mr. Pettersson. In which case we are looking at something in the ballpark of Pettersson for Laine, Dach + 1st

 

[Guy Larose]

Patrik Laine missed the 2 previous games due to "flu" and due to "fatigue". Guess who Montreal is playing next? Thats right, Vancouver. I can bet my buttocks that Patty is sitting out that one too, lets say due to "therapy day".

Meaning: they didnt want to make it too obvious that he is sitting out the Vancouver-game due to being later traded there.

So what type of deal are we looking at here? Im guessing something like J.T. Miller for Laine and a 2nd.

OR it involves the other absentee, Mr. Pettersson. In which case we are looking at something in the ballpark of Pettersson for Laine, Dach + 1st

Jesus, just stop....

 

[AvatarAang]

Heres two potential trades to New York teams:

1)

To NYRangers: Pettersson, Silovs, Hoglander, Desharnais, 2028 6th round pick

To Vancouver: Cuyyle, Schneider, Lafreneire, 2025 1st, 2026 3rd, 2027 5th

2)

To NYIslanders: Miller, Hoglander, Kunz

To Vancouver: Dobson, Barzal, 2025 1st, 2026 2nd, 2026 4th

These are the worst trade proposals I have ever seen.

 

[StickShift]

That’s literally the dumbest tweet in history masked as a rumor

Hey listen guys, one could be traded or neither could be

Wow groundbreaking

Friedman is simply describing quantum mechanics in hockey terms. Miller and Pettersson are in a superposition within Schrödinger’s Trade Block.

 

[LaineBOOM]

Jesus, just stop....

You cant deny the appeal of this:

Montreal getting Demidov next year gives them:

Demidov - Pettersson - Newhook
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

Now tell me that both sides wouldnt be happy. Ofc Laine is risky and Pettersson has his huge cap hit but no deal is without any risks.

 

[AvatarAang]

So what type of deal are we looking at here? Im guessing something like J.T. Miller for Laine and a 2nd.

Wait never mind, this might be the worst trade proposal I have ever seen.

Miller for a cap dump and a 2nd? LOL

 

[toddkaz]

You cant deny the appeal of this: View attachment 956540

Montreal getting Demidov next year gives them:

Demidov - Pettersson - Newhook
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

Now tell me that both sides wouldnt be happy. Ofc Laine is risky and Pettersson has his huge cap hit but no deal is without any risks.

Buffalo can beat that garbage offer.

 

[LaineBOOM]

Wait never mind, this might be the worst trade proposal I have ever seen.

Miller for a cap dump and a 2nd? LOL

Yea I agree, the other suggested trade benefits both sides much better. Although can you imagine the destruction a duo like Pettersson+Laine could potentially inflict?

Buffalo can beat that garbage offer.

I wouldnt be so sure, but is there a suggestion already here? Lets take a look at it!

 

[toddkaz]

Yea I agree, the other suggested trade benefits both sides much better. Although can you imagine the destruction a duo like Pettersson+Laine could potentially inflict?


I wouldnt be so sure, but is there a suggestion already here? Lets take a look at it!

You wouldn't be so sure? Why is that?

Laine doesn't hold much value.

 

[LaineBOOM]

You wouldn't be so sure? Why is that?

Laine doesn't hold much value.

Mainly because I have not seen the offer from Buffalo

And as for Laine's value, idk I agree he is a bit of a Kinder-egg, but getting the chance of putting together a trio like Laine-Dach-Garland is imo worth it. Lets say both Laine and Dach are extended with close to their current cap hits and fully recovered. Vancouver would be looking at their deepest playoffs run in years with that + the rest of the team they have (though I am sadly very poorly informed regarding the contract situation of the bottom 6 + the defence).

 

[Raymones]

There is obviously a fourth option here: a face off. Face/Off, I mean ...

 

[LaineBOOM]

Mainly because I have not seen the offer from Buffalo

And as for Laine's value, idk I agree he is a bit of a Kinder-egg, but getting the chance of putting together a trio like Laine-Dach-Garland is imo worth it. Lets say both Laine and Dach are extended with close to their current cap hits and fully recovered. Vancouver would be looking at their deepest playoffs run in years with that + the rest of the team they have (though I am sadly very poorly informed regarding the contract situation of the bottom 6 + the defence).

And I know beating their conference semi-final runs of 2020 and 2024 sound like hard to beat but to me it just tells about the potential of this team.

Wait.. Boeser is UFA this summer? Garland the summer after? Ok I had not realized those.. cap may become an issue for Vancouver then? Unless they can sign Boeser for 1 year (if both have that interest) and go all in next season with the team.

 

[LuGBuG]

Patrik Laine missed the 2 previous games due to "flu" and due to "fatigue". Guess who Montreal is playing next? Thats right, Vancouver. I can bet my buttocks that Patty is sitting out that one too, lets say due to "therapy day".

Meaning: they didnt want to make it too obvious that he is sitting out the Vancouver-game due to being later traded there.

So what type of deal are we looking at here? Im guessing something like J.T. Miller for Laine and a 2nd.

OR it involves the other absentee, Mr. Pettersson. In which case we are looking at something in the ballpark of Pettersson for Laine, Dach + 1st

I wanna try whatever you are on next weekend

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Best offer I believe comes from Boston

Petterson ( 25% retained )

Carlo
Frederic
Lysell
1rst

 

[dbaz]

Cbj, anah, Carolina, Buffalo, bos, nyr are the main teams that come to mind.

Anah, cbj have the prospects to make a pettersson trade work

Carolina, Buffalo probably have a combination that could work for pettersson or miller

Bos, nyr can make something work for Miller.

I don't think they will trade pettersson I think Alvin just mentioned it and is creating noise to scare those interested in jt miller because of the nmc and miller controlling where he wants to go which could lower the value

 

[Captain Controversy]

Patrik Laine missed the 2 previous games due to "flu" and due to "fatigue". Guess who Montreal is playing next? Thats right, Vancouver. I can bet my buttocks that Patty is sitting out that one too, lets say due to "therapy day".

Meaning: they didnt want to make it too obvious that he is sitting out the Vancouver-game due to being later traded there.

So what type of deal are we looking at here? Im guessing something like J.T. Miller for Laine and a 2nd.

OR it involves the other absentee, Mr. Pettersson. In which case we are looking at something in the ballpark of Pettersson for Laine, Dach + 1st

Montreal would have to trade Suzuki to get Miller or Petterson. If Vancouver traded either one for Laine, The organization should fold and become another pizza stand downtown Vancouver.

 

[LaineBOOM]

Best offer I believe comes from Boston

Petterson ( 25% retained )

Carlo
Frederic
Lysell
1rst

Actually I think I agree with you. At least out of all offers we've seen so far. Bruins really willing to do a deal close to that? Crazy stuff, but who knows.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Best offer I believe comes from Boston

Petterson ( 25% retained )

Carlo
Frederic
Lysell
1rst

That's not that great. Vancouver is not retaining for 7 years. Carlo is a decent piece who I've wanted previously but the rest is meh. Vancouver's needs are a top 4 LHD and a top 6 / 2nd line C.