Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread

[StickShift]

Vancouver's needs are a top 4 LHD and a top 6 / 2nd line C.

I think Vancouver is putting itself in a bind if they are only making the trade to get the right mix of positions back.

If they trade JT Miller, they should seek the player with the highest upside possible. Even if it is for a position like wing. Even if it means it is a one-for-one trade and not a package.

They can’t myopically look at such a trade as solving for their needs right now. They need to add the best core player they can get back and then fill out the holes after that.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Cozens
Byram
Peterka
Top 5 protected 1st

EP40
Garland
Desharnais

 

[Castle8130]

Korchinski + Nazar + Toronto's 2025 1st + Oliver Moore

 

[Norwegianoiler]

Trade them both, together. That will show them.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Best offer I believe comes from Boston

Petterson ( 25% retained )

Carlo
Frederic
Lysell
1rst

lol that is a horrible return for Vancouver. Not a single good piece in there just a bunch of nothing.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

The more I think about this - the more I wonder if this has Pat Verbeek written all over it…and honestly I don’t necessarily love it but I think it makes too much sense.

Ducks need scoring. Could legitimately be in a playoff spot if they had a competent power play and a few more goals. (Something like 15-0-1 when they score 3 or more?).

Vancouver reportedly wants a center and I’m sure a prospect and a pick or multiple. Anaheim has McTavish, Zegras (though hurt), a good prospect/young player pool and picks to give with a lot of salary cap room to fit a guy like EP in.

It wouldn’t shock me at all to see Verbeek make this move and I’m not even sure it’s the right one.

It does seem like, if you actually watch Friedman’s segment, that this is going to happen sooner rather than later.

 

[Edgelord]

If either 1 had less term and we have an idea of whats happening with Marner and J.T, I would throw a solid picks+prospects offer for Miller

 

[centipede2233]

The more I think about the cozens and byram package, the more it just makes sense. I think imho that the Canucks have a trade in principal in place with Buffalo, but are waiting to see how this year plays out. I don’t think Rutherford and Alvin want to trade EP, but if things go south, they will.

 

[wintersej]

Best offer I believe comes from Boston

Petterson ( 25% retained )

Carlo
Frederic
Lysell
1rst

I just can’t see any team retaining for 7 years ever.

I just don’t think Boston has a headliner for an EP deal. I think that Miller’s age and NMC power could give Boston a shot by packaging of their 2Cs and one of their 2nd pairing D and whatever Frederic’s/picks/prospects make sense.

 

[Drumman44]

You cant deny the appeal of this: View attachment 956540

Montreal getting Demidov next year gives them:

Demidov - Pettersson - Newhook
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

Now tell me that both sides wouldnt be happy. Ofc Laine is risky and Pettersson has his huge cap hit but no deal is without any risks.

Dach at 2C is such a downgrade

 

[wintersej]

That's not that great. Vancouver is not retaining for 7 years. Carlo is a decent piece who I've wanted previously but the rest is meh. Vancouver's needs are a top 4 LHD and a top 6 / 2nd line C.

I mean the funniest offer is Lindholm and Zadorov.

 

[Kegs]

lol that is a horrible return for Vancouver. Not a single good piece in there just a bunch of nothing.

Carlo is an amazing shut down defender.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

 

[Hookslide]

Bruins are gonna make a blockbuster deal with nucks my gut says it. Remember the cam neely trade.

Foundation for a 3 team trade, Petterson, McAvoy, and Thachuk, your thoughts. I know my thoughts are crazy, so I said it before anyone else could.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Samberg, Barron, Lambert and a 1st from Winnipeg.

 

[Diogenes92]

If both are dealt, do Nucks fans take to rioting in the streets ?

I would celebrate as long as the returns made sense.

Both of them are pouty primadonnas.

Miller's best days are likely to be behind him and Petey's durability and commitment to the team are huge questions marks.

 

[CraigBillington]

That’s literally the dumbest tweet in history masked as a rumor

Hey listen guys, one could be traded or neither could be

Wow groundbreaking

Expect one of the three... what other option is there?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Would like to hear Vancouver perspective on an Elias Pettersson to Anaheim trade.

I assume
Mctavish or Zegras is the main piece going back, but what needs to be added

Is
Mctavish or zegras
1st (top 2 protection)
Hinds smith(tarin) or dioncicio
Forward prospect(masse, proczyn, Terrance, burnvik)

Get us in convo
The center + 1st being the main haul, and a couple depth pieces.

 

[CraigBillington]

Actually I think I agree with you. At least out of all offers we've seen so far. Bruins really willing to do a deal close to that? Crazy stuff, but who knows.

Canucks won't retain almost $3m, holding up a retention slot for 7.5 years. I feel the chance of the Canucks retaining salary is 0%

 

[Heldig]

Samberg, Barron, Lambert and a 1st from Winnipeg.

Assuming this is for Pettersson (cause Miller wont waive for Winnipeg)?

Painful to give up Samberg. But overall not nearly enough to interest Vancouver IMO. I expect the first ask is for Perfetti.

 

[TheDoldrums]

If either 1 had less term and we have an idea of whats happening with Marner and J.T, I would throw a solid picks+prospects offer for Miller

Friedman said Miller won't waive for a Canadian team sadly, as yeah he would be a great fit otherwise for the Leafs

 

[InsideLaine]

Canucks won't retain almost $3m, holding up a retention slot for 7.5 years. I feel the chance of the Canucks retaining salary is 0%

Most likely accurate, its a sunk cost fallacy waiting to happen.

 

[canadianmagpie]

Would like to hear Vancouver perspective on an Elias Pettersson to Anaheim trade.

I assume
Mctavish or Zegras is the main piece going back, but what needs to be added

Is
Mctavish or zegras
1st (top 2 protection)
Hinds smith(tarin) or dioncicio
Forward prospect(masse, proczyn, Terrance, burnvik)

Get us in convo
The center + 1st being the main haul, and a couple depth pieces.

If Vancouver is trading Pettersson (which I hope they don't do if it's between Miller and Pettersson), then they need to fill two gaps. Replacement centre and help on the blueline. I think you'd be looking at Zegras (though I would prefer McTavish instead), Zellweger, 1st and a couple of middling pieces (mid-round draft picks/prospects).

 

[5 Minute Major]

Friedman just described every player in the NHL that doesn’t have a no trade clause in their contract.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If Vancouver is trading Pettersson (which I hope they don't do if it's between Miller and Pettersson), then they need to fill two gaps. Replacement centre and help on the blueline. I think you'd be looking at Zegras (though I would prefer McTavish instead), Zellweger, 1st and a couple of middling pieces (mid-round draft picks/prospects).

Prob too rich for my liking, don’t think I’d give up 3 premiums(z 1st and zell), but was mostly just curious

Def could see Anaheim kicking tires, we’ll see if pv is more willing.