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Proposal: Evans to the Devils

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BigDaddyLurch said:
...so would whomever we pick 1st, as does Roy need to prove it and we know what Evans is...hell, I'd even throw in Mailloux to get Nemec...
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the difference is i would move fewer assets to get someone i know could fill that hole, like Roy+ for Rasmus Andersson (he's not the exact type of player we need on #1 RD but you're not gonna find that type of player easily, the guy we need is basically another Weber which doesn't exist)

I wouldn't move either of our 1sts tho
 
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TT1 said:
the difference is i would move fewer assets to get someone i know could fill that hole, like Roy+ for Rasmus Andersson

I wouldn't move either of our 1sts tho
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...Andersson is old for our rebuild and this draft class doesn't look all that impressive, not to mention we have 2 kicks at it this year...reward> risk imo...
 
TT1 said:
the difference is i would move fewer assets to get someone i know could fill that hole, like Roy+ for Rasmus Andersson (he's not the exact type of player we need on #1 RD but you're not gonna find a player like that easily, the guy we need is basically another Weber)

I wouldn't move either of our 1sts tho
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Don’t think that would get Rasmus
 
BigDaddyLurch said:
...Andersson is old for our rebuild and this draft class doesn't look all that impressive, not to mention we have 2 kicks at it this year...reward> risk imo...
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the rebuild is over, it's time to bring young vets in (26-28) to help the team grow/compete now, we already have enough prospects/futures in the pipeline

i keep our 1sts so we can package them at the draft to move up if someone interesting is available (Frondell mainly), also I'm keeping Evans

Mrfenn92 said:
Don’t think that would get Rasmus
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Roy + Mailloux is fair value for Rasmus
 
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Zajacs Bowl Cut said:
Haula has been absolutely brutal all year. Him not being a competent player is a huge reason why the 5 on 5 scoring has been worse this year, because the top 2 lines basically have to do everything. NJ should do everything in their power to look to upgrade on him ASAP.

And that has nothing to do with Nemec, tbh. I would be saying this regardless.
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I’m not even going to defend Haula I’m definitely in favor of trading him or at least getting someone to replace him on the 3rd line and drop him to the 4th.

Ideally I’d prefer to trade Nemec for someone to play with Jack and Bratt and knock Palat down to 3c. If that means Haula has to go so be it. He can take Tatar with him.
 
Jerzey Devil said:
I’m not even going to defend Haula I’m definitely in favor of trading him or at least getting someone to replace him on the 3rd line and drop him to the 4th.

Ideally I’d prefer to trade Nemec for someone to play with Jack and Bratt and knock Palat down to 3c. If that means Haula has to go so be it. He can take Tatar with him.
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If the Devils were to move Nemec, it should only be for a Timo Meier-level talent at minimum. The Devils just don’t have the cap space to afford to pay another forward 8+ million and the bigger need right now is to improve the middle-six depth.

The Devils should be targeting second line quality players like Palmieri, Bjorkstrand, Nelson, O’Rielly, Granlund, etc. for an improvement, none of which they should be moving Nemec for.
 
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Jerzey Devil said:
I’m not even going to defend Haula I’m definitely in favor of trading him or at least getting someone to replace him on the 3rd line and drop him to the 4th.

Ideally I’d prefer to trade Nemec for someone to play with Jack and Bratt and knock Palat down to 3c. If that means Haula has to go so be it. He can take Tatar with him.
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...Habs'll take Haula and the Devils can have Newhook...deal??... :thumbu:
 
Sasha Orlov said:
www.si.com

Devils Top Prospect Considering Trade Request

Simon Nemec made a name for himself last season as a top rookie defenseman with the New Jersey Devils. At just 19 years old, Nemec was a regular on the Devils b
www.si.com www.si.com

Could it be for real?
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There no real story there yet.

The interviewer asked him about Jiricek getting a trade to Minnesota and Nemec literally says that it's too soon to ask for a trade lol

This becomes something worth considering if we get into next year and Nemec isn't in the NHL lineup, which I don't think is going to happen but could, in fairness.

More concerning about than the non trade request is probably the fact that Fitz has criticized him and it seems like Nemec has bristled a little bit at that.

Unless Nemec can't wait until next year for some reason, which would be weird given that we already into January.
 
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SannywithoutCompy said:
1 - We have Beck waiting to be called up as well as guys like Kapanen and Davidson waiting in the wings

2 - on the right side we have Reinbacher who is still injured, Mailloux who couldn't find the defensive zone on a map of the defensive zone, and Konyushkov who still has term on his contract and will maybe be a bottom pairing guy.
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1- Neither Beck or Roy have proved themselves, and we might make it to the playoffs this year. Who is going to run the 3rd line, if it happens?

2- Nemec didn't impressed me, and like you said, we have Reinbacher and Mailloux coming up. Hughes passed on freakin' Mitchkov to get him, so we can only assume that he's going to play. On the defensive side, Mailloux is indeed suspect, but it's nothing experience can't solve

This deal has the smell of the "Lekhonen Trade" all over it
 
Nemec playing in the AHL concerns me.

I have no idea what his shortcomings are but obviously Devils thought he needed seasoning.

THAT is a problem.

I'm watching Maillioux and he's getting worse and worse in the AHL. This is the same guy who was 3rd in scoring for defenseman in the AHL as a rookie and now, he get's an assist here and there.

I'm not comparing the two directly but I am worried that we trade huge amount of assets for someone who may not be who we think he is or develop to what we hope he becomes.

2nd overall "sounds" great, but we can't afford to make a mistake.

If he was playing a regular shift in the NHL even as a third pairing for 15 minutes a night, I would feel more confident in a trade.
 
No way I’d trade Nemec for that. Like others have said, include him in a premium trade. You don’t trade a top prospect/young player like Nemec for that.
 
HabsAddict said:
Nemec playing in the AHL concerns me.

I have no idea what his shortcomings are but obviously Devils thought he needed seasoning.

THAT is a problem.

I'm watching Maillioux and he's getting worse and worse in the AHL. This is the same guy who was 3rd in scoring for defenseman in the AHL as a rookie and now, he get's an assist here and there.

I'm not comparing the two directly but I am worried that we trade huge amount of assets for someone who may not be who we think he is or develop to what we hope he becomes.

2nd overall "sounds" great, but we can't afford to make a mistake.

If he was playing a regular shift in the NHL even as a third pairing for 15 minutes a night, I would feel more confident in a trade.
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Perhaps you don't know what having depth on your NHL team is cause the answer is pretty obvious.
 
HabsAddict said:
Nemec playing in the AHL concerns me.

I have no idea what his shortcomings are but obviously Devils thought he needed seasoning.
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It's fair to wonder about him because of the AHL, but he was also hurt before the season in international play and played like crap to open the season. Kovacevic then decided to have a career season as a defensive juggernaut.


He just had a 5 point night last night and has 10 in his last 7. +3 (leads team) on a team that is -31 in goal differential.

I think he may have just been playing through it to start the season.

There are some concerns though. He's a perfect prospect by no means. He's a little passive defensively. Doesn't have the fire on his backside sometimes. Offensively, his decisions on when to pinch and go get it are still a work in progress. 5 on 5 and PKer and may not be a PP guy.

Also, since Hughes and Pesce have come back from injury, I Don't believe that any of the Devils defensemen have missed a game which didn't give Nemec a chance to come back up and force the team's hand.
 
Forge said:
It's fair to wonder about him because of the AHL, but he was also hurt before the season in international play and played like crap to open the season. Kovacevic then decided to have a career season as a defensive juggernaut.


He just had a 5 point night last night and has 10 in his last 7. +3 (leads team) on a team that is -31 in goal differential.

I think he may have just been playing through it to start the season.

There are some concerns though. He's a perfect prospect by no means. He's a little passive defensively. Doesn't have the fire on his backside sometimes. Offensively, his decisions on when to pinch and go get it are still a work in progress. 5 on 5 and PKer and may not be a PP guy.

Also, since Hughes and Pesce have come back from injury, I Don't believe that any of the Devils defensemen have missed a game which didn't give Nemec a chance to come back up and force the team's hand.
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Same thing happened to Mailman. He get's demoted because he made mistakes, goes to the AHL and has a 4 point game and ANOTHER 4 point game...then he falls off a cliff.

I'm a big fan of his but then when I watch him, every tenth play..."WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU THINKING". He's got ALL the tools but it's coming to the point where I wonder if there is something other then hockey involved. I don't want to start any rumours, but...going brain dead that often?

THAT is why I get concerned when a top, can't miss prospect is all of a sudden not that promising.

The idea to trade for a RHD has huge merit for us...but...

Hope both of them find their game........
 
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Devils won't consider moving Nemec until Kovacevic is re-signed long term at a cap hit they want.

IF that happens in the offseason, then I think Nemec does become a trade possibility to other teams. I do see Nemec asking for trade, like Askarov did in Nashville after Saros was re-signed.

At the moment Nemec is favored to take Kovacevic spot next season if Kovacevic is lost to free agency. Devils are up against the cap and have to pay Luke Hughes as a priority before Kovacevic. They can't afford to overpay to keep Kovacevic. They also have a 3C issue which they may also prioritize as a team need before considering re-signing Kovacevic.
 
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