Proposal: Evans to the Devils

[Chose]

I still think we should be able to get a more solid piece in trading Nemec than a 10-15 pick. While I think we would probably be able to lock Evans up I think we have other assets that can be used to get him.

Maybe even Gritsyuk and a 2nd or something for Evans makes sense since he’s Demidov’s teammate in SKA.


I want Brady Tkachuk

The thing is, MTL is contemplating extending Evans as well and doesn't need picks anymore, and does not need depth pieces either.
So if that offer is rejected and similar ones, Evans is most probably extended in Montreal.

Who else is available and better than Evans with that casting (3C, PK, 5vs5 producer) that NJ can target with Nemec at his value.
I mean getting a 1st as well provides flexibility to add more pieces.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I still think we should be able to get a more solid piece in trading Nemec than a 10-15 pick. While I think we would probably be able to lock Evans up I think we have other assets that can be used to get him.

Maybe even Gritsyuk and a 2nd or something for Evans makes sense since he’s Demidov’s teammate in SKA.

Oh for sure if possible I'd rather do a deal like this one. If it's not possible, recouping some tradeable assets in a 1st plus a prospect while filling the hole at 3C isn't too bad either.

I wouldn't outright say yes to the OP proposal, but I wouldn't dismiss it either.

 

[vtdevils2k]

The thing is, MTL is contemplating extending Evans as well and doesn't need picks anymore, and does not need depth pieces either.
So if that offer is rejected and similar ones, Evans is most probably extended in Montreal.

Who else is available and better than Evans with that casting (3C, PK, 5vs5 producer) that NJ can target with Nemec at his value.
I mean getting a 1st as well provides flexibility to add more pieces.

I think if Nemec were truly on the table, NJ can do better. Would be curious what other teams would offer.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

The thing is, MTL is contemplating extending Evans as well and doesn't need picks anymore, and does not need depth pieces either.
So if that offer is rejected and similar ones, Evans is most probably extended in Montreal.

Who else is available and better than Evans with that casting (3C, PK, 5vs5 producer) that NJ can target with Nemec at his value.
I mean getting a 1st as well provides flexibility to add more pieces.

You’re assuming the Devils want to trade Nemec. They probably don’t. Targeting a 3c is fine but using a premium asset to get one is not.

 

[vtdevils2k]

You’re assuming the Devils want to trade Nemec. They probably don’t. Targeting a 3c is fine but using a premium asset to get one is not.

You don't trade the 2nd overall pick (who clearly has high potential) for a 3C. NJ can find that with other pieces.

If you trade Nemec, you target a high end piece that fits this core and cap, and NJ can aways add on to get that potential piece.

 

[Chose]

You’re assuming the Devils want to trade Nemec. They probably don’t. Targeting a 3c is fine but using a premium asset to get one is not.

I am not assuming they want to. We are discussing. We are proposing that you part with him for similar value. I am only assuming that they need a producing 3C, are in win now mode, and that Evans is the best one available.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

You don't trade the 2nd overall pick (who clearly has high potential) for a 3C. NJ can find that with other pieces.

If you trade Nemec, you target a high end piece that fits this core and cap, and NJ can aways add on to get that potential piece.

Yeah I’d rather add to Nemec and go big fish hunting.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I am not assuming they want to. We are discussing. We are proposing that you part with him for similar value. I am only assuming that they need a producing 3C, are in win now mode, and that Evans is the best one available.

While Haula is underperforming I don’t think replacing him is that dire yet. Players go through slumps. I’d like to upgrade the position but I don’t think it’s something that has to be done.

Haula is t the reason the power play has been slipping. The team is still playing good they’re just going through mid season pains.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Am i missing something on Evans? Seems like a decent bottom 6 center, but those guys usually dont bring premium assets back in return. He's has very extreme defensive usage, but he's also shooting 24% when he has a very inconsistent career shooting percentage but it averages a tick below 10%. He looks like a 30 point matchup center who's having a career year on an expiring contract. He's going to get overpaid in the offseason due to having the career year.

I just have a hard time seeing a 1st, let alone a recent 2nd overall pick or a lottery 1st for a guy like that.

 

[crackdown44]

Yeah I’d rather add to Nemec and go big fish hunting.

Do the devils have the cap for that? They have to extend L Hughes as well. I don’t know that they can fit another big fish into their cap structure without moving out a good chunk of salary. To an outsider it looks like they have enough big fish up front already

They’re going to have to find another goalie at some point too. Not saying they should move Nemec in this kinda deal but I don’t think Nemec will wait patiently in the AHL forever either, he’s going to want an opportunity at some point, as eluded to in his interview yesterday

 

[Habs Halifax]

Am i missing something on Evans? Seems like a decent bottom 6 center, but those guys usually dont bring premium assets back in return. He's has very extreme defensive usage, but he's also shooting 24% when he has a very inconsistent career shooting percentage but it averages a tick below 10%. He looks like a 30 point matchup center who's having a career year on an expiring contract. He's going to get overpaid in the offseason due to having the career year.

I just have a hard time seeing a 1st, let alone a recent 2nd overall pick or a lottery 1st for a guy like that.

Got to watch him play to understand his real value. He's a perfect 3C just touching his prime. Very good in the 200' game and very good on faceoffs. One of the more effective penalty killers in the NHL.

This is about supply/demand at a TDL. Look around the NHL and how many contenders need a 3C. Evans is going to get a lot of phone calls and I'd say the Habs fan base is 50/50 split on if we should trade him or not.

If the offers are 2nd round or worse, there is no incentive for the Habs to trade Evans. He's probably going to get a late 1st or two 2nd's alone by himself. Habs are looking at finding a RD which lead to this idea. Habs offering a pick from 10-15 with a prospect added is no joke.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Do the devils have the cap for that? They have to extend L Hughes as well. I don’t know that they can fit another big fish into their cap structure without moving out a good chunk of salary. To an outsider it looks like they have enough big fish up front already

They’re going to have to find another goalie at some point too. Not saying they should move Nemec in this kinda deal but I don’t think Nemec will wait patiently in the AHL forever either, he’s going to want an opportunity at some point, as eluded to in his interview yesterday

I was worried about Markstrom’s age when we acquired him too but he’s playing absolutely incredible. I think we have a few more years out of him. Not something that needs to be addressed at least until the end of next season.

Devils have roughly 5-6 million in cap at the deadline. I would love to be able to unload Palat and Tatar for more space I just doubt we can.

Honestly why did Kovasevic get traded? Did he just up his game in NJ or is Siegs just a really good partner for him? Was he misused in Montreal or did he just underperform? Dudes been great for us.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Got to watch him play to understand his real value. He's a perfect 3C just touching his prime. Very good in the 200' game and very good on faceoffs. One of the more effective penalty killers in the NHL.

This is about supply/demand at a TDL. Look around the NHL and how many contenders need a 3C. Evans is going to get a lot of phone calls and I'd say the Habs fan base is 50/50 split on if we should trade him or not.

If the offers are 2nd round or worse, there is no incentive for the Habs to trade Evans. He's probably going to get a late 1st or two 2nd's alone by himself. Habs are looking at finding a RD which lead to this idea. Habs offering a pick from 10-15 with a prospect added is no joke.

I initially misread the pick as in Nemec or a lottery 1st. But still...

There are a lot of very reasonably good 3Cs who are good on faceoffs and good pkers. I just don't buy the you have to watch him play to understand his real value. If this was a guy consistently putting up 45-55 points I could really buy that argument, but it's not. He's an inconsistent scoring player, like many other matchup 3Cs.

I get the supply and demand argument of it. But by the same token if it doesn't make sense for the Habs for a 2nd round pick to move Evans, why in the world would it make sense for the Devils to trade Nemec for a defensive 3C when it's to replace Haula who is better on draws than Evans and outscores Evans.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a 2nd from Evans. But I think it's odd to make an Evans to the Devils trade thread when in all reality this is Nemec to Montreal. I just don't see why if the Devils target were an expiring UFA they would care to be moving the best asset in the deal for an expiring player who frankly isn't an upgrade on what they're trying to replace.

 

[Chose]

I was worried about Markstrom’s age when we acquired him too but he’s playing absolutely incredible. I think we have a few more years out of him. Not something that needs to be addressed at least until the end of next season.

Devils have roughly 5-6 million in cap at the deadline. I would love to be able to unload Palat and Tatar for more space I just doubt we can.

Honestly why did Kovasevic get traded? Did he just up his game in NJ or is Siegs just a really good partner for him? Was he misused in Montreal or did he just underperform? Dudes been great for us.

Now imagine Evans !
Kovacevic was traded because we had 10 NHL defenseman at the time.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Now imagine Evans !
Kovacevic was traded because we had 10 NHL defenseman at the time.

Gritsyuk + 2nd for Evans

 

[Chose]

Gritsyuk + 2nd for Evans

Not interested. It does not adress a need. Evans would be extended in MTL is that was the best offer.
Someone will pitch a late 1st for him, I am pretty sure.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Not interested. It does not adress a need. Evans would be extended in MTL is that was the best offer.
Someone will pitch a late 1st for him, I am pretty sure.

So be it.

 

[crackdown44]

I was worried about Markstrom’s age when we acquired him too but he’s playing absolutely incredible. I think we have a few more years out of him. Not something that needs to be addressed at least until the end of next season.

Devils have roughly 5-6 million in cap at the deadline. I would love to be able to unload Palat and Tatar for more space I just doubt we can.

Honestly why did Kovasevic get traded? Did he just up his game in NJ or is Siegs just a really good partner for him? Was he misused in Montreal or did he just underperform? Dudes been great for us.

I’m not a habs fan I couldn’t tell you lol. Think they just chose wrong between him and Barron tbh, Barron having the higher ceiling

I just find this deal interesting for the Devils, addresses an immediate need at 3C, let’s them kick their prospect logjam issue down the road by giving them a decent first rounder and they get good all around value for Nemec

I just don’t see an immediate future for Nemec with the Devils unless they move on from Hamilton, and I think the kid is too talented to be in the minors beyond this year

 

[Chose]

I’m not a habs fan I couldn’t tell you lol. Think they just chose wrong between him and Barron tbh, Barron having the higher ceiling

Exactly !
Now with Carrier, Hugues fixed the mistake.

 

[Jared Dunn]

I feel like if New Jersey is willing to put Nemec on the table they might as well go big game hunting

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I’m not a habs fan I couldn’t tell you lol. Think they just chose wrong between him and Barron tbh, Barron having the higher ceiling

I just find this deal interesting for the Devils, addresses an immediate need at 3C, let’s them kick their prospect logjam issue down the road by giving them a decent first rounder and they get good all around value for Nemec

I just don’t see an immediate future for Nemec with the Devils unless they move on from Hamilton, and I think the kid is too talented to be in the minors beyond this year

While I agree that Nemec might get moved I don’t see why it would be for a 3c. There are other centers to target if the Habs are dead set on Nemec. Nashville for one has a lot of centers. Maybe ROR is a better option. He’s won the cup, a Conn Smyth, and a Selke throughout his career. Not having a bad season this year and his cap is manageable.

 

[crackdown44]

While I agree that Nemec might get moved I don’t see why it would be for a 3c. There are other centers to target if the Habs are dead set on Nemec. Nashville for one has a lot of centers. Maybe ROR is a better option. He’s won the cup, a Conn Smyth, and a Selke throughout his career. Not having a bad season this year and his cap is manageable.

Yeah I don’t disagree but I don’t think Evans is even the most valuable piece in this proposal. That mid first carries a lot more, he’s just a nice piece to help them out for their push this year. Hughes/Hischier are going to be eating up 40+ minutes in the playoffs anyway

It really depends more if the Devils think they can fit another big piece into their lineup up front or if they just want to maximize value for Nemec tbh. Both being legitimate options, as well as just keeping him and moving someone else so he can play

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

While Haula is underperforming I don’t think replacing him is that dire yet. Players go through slumps. I’d like to upgrade the position but I don’t think it’s something that has to be done.

Haula is t the reason the power play has been slipping. The team is still playing good they’re just going through mid season pains.

Haula has been absolutely brutal all year. Him not being a competent player is a huge reason why the 5 on 5 scoring has been worse this year, because the top 2 lines basically have to do everything. NJ should do everything in their power to look to upgrade on him ASAP.

And that has nothing to do with Nemec, tbh. I would be saying this regardless.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I feel like if New Jersey is willing to put Nemec on the table they might as well go big game hunting

Pretty much this. This trade seems more of a “well, we just wanted to trade him” trade. There are better ways to maximize his value even if it requires the Devils to add another piece.

 

[bud12]

Am i missing something on Evans? Seems like a decent bottom 6 center, but those guys usually dont bring premium assets back in return. He's has very extreme defensive usage, but he's also shooting 24% when he has a very inconsistent career shooting percentage but it averages a tick below 10%. He looks like a 30 point matchup center who's having a career year on an expiring contract. He's going to get overpaid in the offseason due to having the career year.

I just have a hard time seeing a 1st, let alone a recent 2nd overall pick or a lottery 1st for a guy like that.

No, your observation about Evans is about right. What you're missing is the first and Engstrom/Mailloux on top of it whitch are more valuable than Evans itsefl imo