Contract Termination: Evander Kane

[FireBenning]

See the edit, other POC *not in the same situation*, I knew it would need to be spelled out. We got people bringing up Mike Grier and Jarome Iginla as examples of how this can't be racism, when the correct comparison, if any, is how the league treated problematic white players. Their legal troubles were certainly not dragged out in public but there are 100% for sure NHLers that beat their wives, assault women, go bankrupt, etc. and Kane isn't even proven to have done most of those things.

On the specific issue of vaccination, you see how the league is bending over backwards to allow a white player that refuses to vaccinate to continue to play. This is clearly against the rules yet the white player feels that he can do this in full view and the rules will be bent for him. And they are.

Umm

Jake Virtanen
Slava Voynov
Doug Gilmour
and many others.

You're trying to make it about race. Its about MONEY. They have kicked this guy out because he's a cancer, just like Winnipeg did, and if they can weasel out of their contract, they sure as hell will try given how much is owed. Team's don't want distractions.

 

[Church Hill]

See the edit, other POC *in this situation*, I knew it would need to be spelled out. We got people bringing up Mike Grier and Jarome Iginla as examples of how this can't be racism, when the correct comparison, if any, is how the league treated problematic white players. Their legal troubles were certainly not dragged out in public but there are 100% for sure NHLers that beat their wives, assault women, go bankrupt, etc. and Kane isn't even proven to have done most of those things.

On the specific issue of vaccination, you see how the league is bending over backwards to allow a white player that refuses to vaccinate to continue to play. This is clearly against the rules yet the white player feels that he can do this in full view and the rules will be bent for him. And they are.

The supply of racism does not meet your demand.

 

[Saskatoon]

Based on his past history and his contract being terminated for covid violations, I personally remain skeptical.

To lie about being vaccinated twice seems unlikely

The COVID violations are that he travelled while under COVID protocol without medical clearance. The paperwork has been filed and the Sharks are not alleging fake vaccine x2.

 

[YP44]

See the edit, other POC *in this situation*, I knew it would need to be spelled out. We got people bringing up Mike Grier and Jarome Iginla as examples of how this can't be racism, when the correct comparison, if any, is how the league treated problematic white players. Their legal troubles were certainly not dragged out in public but there are 100% for sure NHLers that beat their wives, assault women, go bankrupt, etc. and Kane isn't even proven to have done most of those things.

On the specific issue of vaccination, you see how the league is bending over backwards to allow a white player that refuses to vaccinate to continue to play. This is clearly against the rules yet the white player feels that he can do this in full view and the rules will be bent for him. And they are.

the white player was honest about not being vaccinated and has followed the rules. that the difference.

I don't think that race plays a factor at all here.

 

[inthe6ix]

Why not address it with the team as a whole? If the team is talking about it already, it is not really a distraction and they probably have questions about the whole fiasco to-date.

Anyways, hopefully with the contract termination, this is all settled sooner than later.

 

[inthe6ix]

 

[Fitzy]

To lie about being vaccinated twice seems unlikely

The COVID violations are that he travelled while under COVID protocol without medical clearance. The paperwork has been filed and the Sharks are not alleging fake vaccine x2.

I'd argue it's a lot more likely when you've done it once already, tbh.

 

[Saskatoon]

I'd argue it's a lot more likely when you've done it once already, tbh.

More likely maybe? Actually happened? I would bet a large sum of money that isn't what happened.

The details are public. The Sharks allege that

1) He travelled while under COVID protocol without permission
2) He was supposed to return Dec 31 and did not return until Jan 6

 

[34]

The Oilers are desperate, they will try to sign him for sure. Highly doubt Kane will want to go to Edmonton though. That is a no fly zone for most players.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Why not address it with the team as a whole? If the team is talking about it already, it is not really a distraction and they probably have questions about the whole fiasco to-date.

Anyways, hopefully with the contract termination, this is all settled sooner than later.

It's very very possible they've discussed it. But why would they stir the pot and tell the press that?

 

[centipede2233]

The Oilers are desperate, they will try to sign him for sure. Highly doubt Kane will want to go to Edmonton though. That is a no fly zone for most players.

I called this a couple days ago, the oilers are desperate! And e.Kane is exactly the type of player they need, a goal scorer. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Holland must feel mcdavid and drasaitl along either RNH and nurse can keep Kane in check.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

SJ will have something like 10.5 years of cap hit for the termination fees with 3.5 years of cap recapture....lol

There won't be a recapture penalty.

 

[inthe6ix]

It's very very possible they've discussed it. But why would they stir the pot and tell the press that?

Shake things up - EDM needs one in a big way.

Besides, top-line minutes with Drai and Connor would allure anyone.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Shake things up - EDM needs one in a big way.

Besides, top-line minutes with Drai and Connor would allure anyone.

huh? what about edmonton ? wrong post ?

 

[Alwalys]

Umm

Jake Virtanen
Slava Voynov
Doug Gilmour
and many others.

Case in point, and I would add the recent example of Varlamov to that list as a possibly closer comparison. None of these players were dragged the way Kane is being dragged, and to this day they are not known for their transgressions more than their on-ice exploits, and Kane is a better player than all of them.

the white player was honest about not being vaccinated and has followed the rules. that the difference.

I don't think that race plays a factor at all here.

There are no rules that allow a player to be unvaccinated and be able to fulfill his commitment to the club. The fact that the white player felt confident being honest and open is exactly the point, he knew there would be accommodations made for him. And perhaps more importantly, that he would be just fine even if there weren't.

 

[inthe6ix]

huh? what about edmonton ? wrong post ?

Sorry, you quoted the other tweet about the Boogie man lol

At this point, the pot is already stirred.

 

[hohosaregood]

I'm sure some team is going to be happy with having him in the locker room and on the ice. Winning championships and success will typically be good enough scenarios to ignore locker room issues. Sharks just aren't in that situation to overlook those locker room issues anymore.

In regards to the race stuff, no doubt race has led to a negative bias against Kane but let's not act like Kane's blameless in his actions and act like he's and innocent just because some white guys get away scott free that Kane should also get away with it as well. He did some laudable things with race relations in helping to get the HDA started up but even the HDA have done a lot to distance themselves from Kane because of personal problems.

 

[YP44]

Case in point, and I would add the recent example of Varlamov to that list as a possibly closer comparison. None of these players were dragged the way Kane is being dragged, and to this day they are not known for their transgressions more than their on-ice exploits, and Kane is a better player than all of them.



There are no rules that allow a player to be unvaccinated and be able to fulfill his commitment to the club. The fact that the white player felt confident being honest and open is exactly the point, he knew there would be accommodations made for him. And perhaps more importantly, that he would be just fine even if there weren't.

I thought the NHL laid out the what unvaccinated vs vaccinated protocol would like before the season. Every player except one got vaccinated. That is of course unless there are more players with fake vaccination cards. Has nothing to do with race.

Why is voynov even brought up in here? He was handed the longest suspension in league history IMO (for some reason the record books do not show it this way), and never saw the NHL again. Since he was brought up I sure think he is remembered for his off ice transgression and not his on-ice exploits.

I really like Kane the player and hope that he gets things figured out. Hard to continue to route for a guy when he has burned bridges at three stops so far.
If I was Kane I would try and get on with Team Canada, go to the Olympics and then sign a one year deal with a playoff club.

 

[YP44]

I'm sure some team is going to be happy with having him in the locker room and on the ice. Winning championships and success will typically be good enough scenarios to ignore locker room issues. Sharks just aren't in that situation to overlook those locker room issues anymore.

In regards to the race stuff, no doubt race has led to a negative bias against Kane but let's not act like Kane's blameless in his actions and act like he's and innocent just because some white guys get away scott free that Kane should also get away with it as well. He did some laudable things with race relations in helping to get the HDA started up but even the HDA have done a lot to distance themselves from Kane because of personal problems.

agreed, whatever team signs him they should only sign short term deals that is for sure.

 

[ElPrimeTime]

If it's cheap with an out clause for him messing up, I'd be down to give him a shot. We were able to help Kassian fix his off ice shit, but he forgot how to do stuff on-ice.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Its funny how much Holland talked about character and leadership was needed in the lockeroom.
So he goes out and gets Keith, and it comes out he knew about the Kyle Beach incident.
And now is looking to get Kane?

Clearly guy doesn't know shit anymore. What a joke.

 

[YP44]

If it's cheap with an out clause for him messing up, I'd be down to give him a shot. We were able to help Kassian fix his off ice shit, but he forgot how to do stuff on-ice.

Edmonton is prime candidate for him IMO as far as on ice need. Just not sure it would be best for Kane to go to a Canadian market.

I think Colorado makes sense too.

 

[Suntouchable13]

15-20 teams have expressed interest. Just shows the NHL teams couldn't care less what kind of human being they employ as long as he can help them on the ice. I guess it makes sense. If we think that there are 650 role models in the NHL, the we are sorely mistaken. I bet there are many guys who you wouldn't even want to come close to your daughter.

 

[BruinsJoe]

Edmonton 1 mil x 1 year?

 

[CycloneSweep]

15-20 teams have expressed interest. Just shows the NHL teams couldn't care less what kind of human being they employ as long as he can help them on the ice. I guess it makes sense. If we think that there are 650 role models in the NHL, the we are sorely mistaken. I bet there are many guys who you wouldn't even want to come close to your daughter.

I mean thats pro sports leagues in general.