Contract Termination: Evander Kane

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I can see Edmonton desperate enough to sign Kane. They need a top 6 winger.

Don't do it for sake of McDavid.

 

[MikeK]

Too many internet lawyers here. Either way, from a hockey perspective, what a total waste of talent this guy has been since the very beginning. His career should have gone in a completely different direction. Had everything to be one of the better players of his generation. What a waste.

 

[Mattb124]

Hmm that could get dicey because the NHL shortened their COVID protocol to only 5 days on the 29th, so his agent may be right, they may have a case.

I want to know how that math works. If he tested positive on 12/21, was scheduled to return on 12/31 under a 10-day protocol, and the NHL changed the protocol to 5 days on 12/29/21, how would he have a case when he didn't return to the team until 1/6/22? Is this a common core thing?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Too many internet lawyers here. Either way, from a hockey perspective, what a total waste of talent this guy has been since the very beginning. His career should have gone in a completely different direction. Had everything to be one of the better players of his generation. What a waste.

Only thing going for him- knocked out Matt Cooke.

 

[MinJaBen]

You do realise this is not the end? Litigation is just about to start.

Yes, of course. But I think they will win.

 

[Jets4Life]

If I’m a small market team with little media presence, I’m scrambling to set up plans for a support net for him and already on the phone with his agent.

He’s a top tier power forward in his prime, destined to score 30 goals per season and you can likely have him at a league minimum. You’re a moron if you don’t take that risk. Carolina would be a good fit.

see: Jets, Winnipeg.

TNSE controls the media here, and calls the shots as to what gets reported. The city is so paranoid of losing the Jets that any reporter who breaks ranks, and goes against TNSE soon finds himself without credentials to access the team or dressing room.

Winnipeg tried everything humanly possible to control Kane, and it didn't work.

 

[ottawah]

Is there actually a statement that says his contract was tied to the debt?

Definitely he agreed to have a portion of the contract directly paid to creditors to pay off debts, but that does not mean his debt was tied to it. And in fact, the fact that he was able to divert the payments the sharks were making to creditors back to himself would indicate there was no official lien against the contract itself. He could have offered to have direct payments to the creditors as part of a payment plan to avoid bankruptcy.

furthermore, reading on it, Kane declared chapter 7 trying to have the debts negated while his contract remained in place.

So I'd say from what I see that the contract termination does not free Kane from any of his debt obligations.

 

[CycloneSweep]

If I’m a small market team with little media presence, I’m scrambling to set up plans for a support net for him and already on the phone with his agent.

He’s a top tier power forward in his prime, destined to score 30 goals per season and you can likely have him at a league minimum. You’re a moron if you don’t take that risk. Carolina would be a good fit.

A 30 year old player is destined to score 30 goals per season even though he has only ever done that once? Sounds like a stretch

 

[McShogun99]

I don't think they can really stop an NHL team from giving him a contract.

Maybe this will work out for Kane, he gets a good portion of his contract in a settlement and then is free to sign with another team for 2-3 mill a year.

They can’t stop an NHL team but they can “recommend” that no owner signs him. There’s always shady stuff behind the scenes. Look at the NFL and that player that started the kneeling for the anthem trend.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

This guy's run out of strikes....any other union and he'd have been canned ages ago.

Lol

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

It could be from the Sharks perspective that they have nothing to lose. If they win in arbitration they get out of the contract. If they lose, they are forced to buy him it out which they may have done anyway.

Of course, losing would pretty much shatter the Sharks' reputation for any potential UFA coming in, but the future of the team on the ice is so far up shit creek it may not really matter.

I don't think any outcome of this with Kane will impact FA's for SJ

 

[bambamcam4ever]

depending on how they count the 10 days it was either 10 or 9 days when he flew. And it sounds like he may have had medical clearance to fly. So that sounds like team doctors/team weren’t on the same page there. I think the main thing they will argue is him showing up 7 days after he was supposed to

Isn't the punishment for failure to report suspension without pay? I don't think unilateral termination of the contract is allowed for that, but I could be wrong.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

I want to know how that math works. If he tested positive on 12/21, was scheduled to return on 12/31 under a 10-day protocol, and the NHL changed the protocol to 5 days on 12/29/21, how would he have a case when he didn't return to the team until 1/6/22? Is this a common core thing?

those days (10 vs 5) are with a negative test result iirc

 

[Kcoyote3]

Ah so faked a vaccine card, suspended, got COVID, traveled instead of quarantined, then showed up a week late to the AHL after Christmas. Sounds justified to me.

 

[Hitemwith4]

Didnt Kane want his contract terminated because of gambling debts?

 

[francis246]

Isn't the punishment for failure to report suspension without pay? I don't think unilateral termination of the contract is allowed for that, but I could be wrong.

I would agree. So at best maybe a weeks worth of pay lost? I'm not one who thinks the team has a case. But I think kane would be open to leaving or settling to leave if the Sharks agree to pay his contract out in full or very close to it.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

see: Jets, Winnipeg.

TNSE controls the media here, and calls the shots as to what gets reported. The city is so paranoid of losing the Jets that any reporter who breaks ranks, and goes against TNSE soon finds himself without credentials to access the team or dressing room.

Winnipeg tried everything humanly possible to control Kane, and it didn't work.

The city of Winnipeg owns the Jets?

 

[themelkman]

Didnt Kane want his contract terminated because of gambling debts?

No, he was threatening it to have the court not claim those earnings for his creditors. Thats over now, this money was all his to keep.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

They can’t stop an NHL team but they can “recommend” that no owner signs him. There’s always shady stuff behind the scenes. Look at the NFL and that player that started the kneeling for the anthem trend.

it didn't help that the kneeling player was in decline, had been demoted from being the starter then demanded to any teams interested in him that he be paid like he was a starter if they signed him, ghosted private workouts..etc..
THAT guy went out of his way to make himself un-signable as it appears he makes more money being a "martyr"

 

[bigdaddyk88]

They can’t stop an NHL team but they can “recommend” that no owner signs him. There’s always shady stuff behind the scenes. Look at the NFL and that player that started the kneeling for the anthem trend.

That same player turned down 3 contracts and his fiancée called the owner of the ravens a slave owner

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Ah so faked a vaccine card, suspended, got COVID, traveled instead of quarantined, then showed up a week late to the AHL after Christmas. Sounds justified to me.

yup... so why's everyone picking on this poor guy?

 

[surixon]

Hmm that could get dicey because the NHL shortened their COVID protocol to only 5 days on the 29th, so his agent may be right, they may have a case.

10 day quarantine puts him at the 31st as he tested positive the 21st. So I don't see how he has a case there showing up on the 6th, that would put him at a 15 day quarantine.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

No, he was threatening it to have the court not claim those earnings for his creditors. Thats over now, this money was all his to keep.

I don't know that this is necessarily true.

 

[jetsforever]

Wonder if he could go to the Olympics

 

[surixon]

Isn't the punishment for failure to report suspension without pay? I don't think unilateral termination of the contract is allowed for that, but I could be wrong.

Plenty of players have had their contracts terminated for failing to report. Big Buff in Winnipeg had his terminated for that a couple of years ago.