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Anyone remember that one time when Kane wore a Redskins t shirt to an autograph signing in Winnipeg and people speculated about it meaning he wanted out?
 

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I don't think E.Kane is a Winnipeg Jet after this season. How much do you think can we get in a trade for him?(kind of depends what kind of a season he has but if it is 60+ points then it is a big package). Where will he end up? What kind of a package should we be looking for? What kind of package will we get?
 

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its so nice we can talk about 3 legit scoring centers. <3 Scheifeles progression:handclap:
 

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I don't think E.Kane is a Winnipeg Jet after this season. How much do you think can we get in a trade for him?(kind of depends what kind of a season he has but if it is 60+ points then it is a big package). Where will he end up? What kind of a package should we be looking for? What kind of package will we get?

I think Kane is here for a long time if we have some success.
 

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This is a yes and no answer for me. Sustaining offensive pressure does NOT help Kane, IMO, since he is horrendous in reading the offensive zone and finding the soft areas of the ice. So sustained pressure makes absolutely no difference. However players that are able to help Kane get a quick break out of the defensive zone are useful which might help him somewhat. I don't feel that that difference is worth it compared to a player able to contribute overall to an offensive line with smart players therefore I find him more useful on a useless 3rd line where he makes everything himself which is where he excels. He creates HUGE problems for opposing teams by being the guy who is on the line nobody expects (ie taking easiest matchups) and making plays himself out of it. He does not play well with others.

I think there might be a bit of chicken and egg going on here. Does Kane play with crap players because he doesn't play well with others OR does Kane not play well with others because he's playing with crap players?

I saw a lot more sharing the puck, vision, and offensive smarts/ play with Kane last season. I think he has the ability to be better at it and I think if he plays with guys who can also handle the puck and get it back to him I'd bet he develops that part of his game even more.

I don't buy that the org. is putting him with crap players because he wastes good players and is better on his own. They put him with crap players because he is the best at creating chances by himself and that is what the team needed with our lack of depth. I fully expect Kane to play with better players this year and if he can build chemistry with Perreault for example, I'd bet he will play more of a team game with the puck offensively.

Don't get me wrong, Kane is a spotlight guy and will ALWAYS want the puck and want to shoot it (and that's what makes great scorers great), but I think he will incorporate the other part into his game because he realizes that a great puck handler/ shooter who will pass at will is far more scary for defensemen.

I love playing against guys who hog the puck. Sure, the really good ones might manage an inside out move or double toe drag on me occasionally, and sometimes just through the very skill of their shot score, but more often than not I can just look at their shoulders and cause them to button hook, go wide, or take the puck from them. The guys that I hate are the ones that draw me to them and then dish the puck. They force you to play them more conservatively which allows them more space to make a move or take a shot.
 
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I think if this team starts winning then it solves this and a lot of other problems.

Very true. Winning is the cure for much of what ails a team. If we start making the playoffs and Kane is playing a prominent role I bet he sticks around for at least his contract willingly.
 

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I think Kane is a dick. But that doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's just not nearly as good as mny people think and for that reason I think he's great trade bait. He had an amazing NHL start and his production is falling off. Oh sure you can explain it away with all sorts of theories and numbers and try and blame his linemates but his job is to score, not to come up with excuses.

Feels like I`m not really adding anything new I haven't already said before. So maybe I'll just say who needs a young arrogant prima donna who doens't want to be here? Cuz guess what.. pretty sure he doesn't want to be here folks.
 

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I think Kane is a dick. But that doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's just not nearly as good as mny people think and for that reason I think he's great trade bait. He had an amazing NHL start and his production is falling off. Oh sure you can explain it away with all sorts of theories and numbers and try and blame his linemates but his job is to score, not to come up with excuses.

Feels like I`m not really adding anything new I haven't already said before. So maybe I'll just say who needs a young arrogant prima donna who doens't want to be here? Cuz guess what.. pretty sure he doesn't want to be here folks.

His production is falling off... That is a bit of a stretch IMO.

He has one less than ideal, injury plagued season. That isn't a pattern.

Kane is a dominant 5 on 5 player who was still among the Jets most productive - despite a down year.
 

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I hope Kane can hit the 30 goal mark again. There should be no reason why he couldn't reach a 30+/30+/60++ season. If he does, the Jets should be very close to a playoff position.

That, and Hutch playing a lot of games. :D
 

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I hope Kane can hit the 30 goal mark again. There should be no reason why he couldn't reach a 30+/30+/60++ season. If he does, the Jets should be very close to a playoff position.

That, and Hutch playing a lot of games. :D

That and BOTH his trade value goes way up and the motivation to keep him goes way up. The only reason to trade him would be if he really, sincerely wants out. In that case we would be able to get far more for him than we could now. If fan proposals are even a very rough estimate of what other teams would pay for him now there is no way I would trade him. The suggestions I have seen are just ridiculous.
 

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His production is falling off... That is a bit of a stretch IMO.

He has one less than ideal, injury plagued season. That isn't a pattern.
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His goals per game have fallen off for 3 years in row IIRC..... or at least 2 years in a row now. Maybe its his linemates. Maybe its nagging injuries. Or maybe he's just been figured out by the opposition as being one dimensional. Who knows. Kanes job is to score though, not just skate into the zone wide and rifle the puck wide or into the gut of a goaltender.
 

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His goals per game have fallen off for 3 years in row IIRC..... or at least 2 years in a row now. Maybe its his linemates. Maybe its nagging injuries. Or maybe he's just been figured out by the opposition as being one dimensional.

Or simply the randomness of sh%
 

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His goals per game have fallen off for 3 years in row IIRC..... or at least 2 years in a row now. Maybe its his linemates. Maybe its nagging injuries. Or maybe he's just been figured out by the opposition as being one dimensional. Who knows. Kanes job is to score though, not just skate into the zone wide and rifle the puck wide or into the gut of a goaltender.

He does score.
 

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I think Kane is a dick. But that doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's just not nearly as good as mny people think and for that reason I think he's great trade bait. He had an amazing NHL start and his production is falling off. Oh sure you can explain it away with all sorts of theories and numbers and try and blame his linemates but his job is to score, not to come up with excuses.

Feels like I`m not really adding anything new I haven't already said before. So maybe I'll just say who needs a young arrogant prima donna who doens't want to be here? Cuz guess what.. pretty sure he doesn't want to be here folks.

Making a trade after a poor season is dumb move IMO. I dont blame anybody for not liking Kane and wanting to trade him, but I would rather wait to do it when his value is bit higher.

Hard to say if he will ever match his scoring rate from 3 years ago but I would bet money that he will exceed last year's mark, solely on being healthy. I think the wrist injury hampered his ability to shoot the puck. The bad angle shooting is real but he buried more high quality chances back in 11/12 compared to last year. I expect better results his year, and then I will sign off on a trade.
 

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His goals per game have fallen off for 3 years in row IIRC..... or at least 2 years in a row now. Maybe its his linemates. Maybe its nagging injuries. Or maybe he's just been figured out by the opposition as being one dimensional. Who knows. Kanes job is to score though, not just skate into the zone wide and rifle the puck wide or into the gut of a goaltender.

Maybe it's just trying to construct a case against a player you don't like when you don't really have a case at all?

You don't like him, that's cool. However, Kane has managed to remain a very consistent goalscorer in the NHL at a very young age and despite having injuries and suspect linemates.

If the Jets didn't have a player of Kane's ilk you can be damned sure we'd be pining for one.

More than anyone else at 5v5 on this team, in fact.

But who needs a young scoring, PK'ing power forward?

:slowclap:
 

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His goals per game have fallen off for 3 years in row IIRC..... or at least 2 years in a row now. Maybe its his linemates. Maybe its nagging injuries. Or maybe he's just been figured out by the opposition as being one dimensional. Who knows. Kanes job is to score though, not just skate into the zone wide and rifle the puck wide or into the gut of a goaltender.

3 years ago was his 30 goal season. The 2 years since have been lower in gpg but about equal to each other. His sh% has fallen in each of the last 2 years.
 

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23 Year Old, 30 goal power forwards are a dime a dozen............

Something never said in a GM's meeting.

I could care less what Kane says about Winnipeg, the fans the city, anything. You do not trade a player of this ilk unless you are positive that what you are getting back can exceed what you are trading.

Kane is poised to have his best season to date. He is in great shape, should start the season off with Scheif and Wheels, which if all remain healthy, could be a top line in the leauge. If all goes well, either Kane will start enjoying his time here, and embrace being the big fish in a small pond, or we look at moving him at his full value.

But to trade Kane at this point is silly, as you will not get the return you need.
 
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