Proposal: Evander Kane to Edmonton

TheNewEra

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If hertl is wanting to leave why not acquire him as well? Then put nuge on the 3rd to have 2 2nd lines? Also kanes negative value should give us a break on acquiring hertl. Not only that id rather trade kassian to another team that isnt even in the same conference. Maybe to ott and get Watson and zub.
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Lmfao zub for kassian and Ottawa adds. Oh dear someone has a substance abuse problem
 
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Stewie Griffin

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Kane caused shit in Winnipeg, then Buffalo, then San Jose. Even his San Jose teammates reportedly don't want him around. Why the f*** would we want that issue? Perhaps we should get a goalie that doesnt let in the first goal of every game?
I mean Kane at 25% of his contract is a great add to your team. He was just sub ppg on last year's disaster of a sharks team. He could pot upper 30's with 97 or 29, while making under 3M. The risk obviously there, but so is the reward.
 

HogtownSabresfan

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For what it's worth, Kane on McD's wing would be absolutely bonkers.

Sharks would also possibly be willing to get a third team involved to make it 25% with a couple more pieces involved.

No he wouldn't. Kane is best on his own line creating plays. He shoots the puck way too way too much and will take it out of McDavid's hands too often. I watched it with Eichel and McDavid is clearly levels and levels ahead of Jack and you always want him with the puck.

It's not to say Kane wouldn't have value on third line making $3.5 M. The guy creates his own offence -- he's a bull on the ice. Off the ice.... ouch
 

franste Perreault

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Kane still a good player on the ice but all problems he got outside the rink cost a lot for San Jose. To me the NHL and NHLPA need to make an agreement with Kane and Sharks and terminate his contract now (give him money and left him leave) No Value on salary cap should be counted for the Sharks. Terminate his contract and suspended him for 2 years and revaluate him in 1 years and half.
 

Larry Hanson

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If the Sharks have to retain 50% plus take on Kassian then they might as well just buy Kane out.
 

Boondock

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If hertl is wanting to leave why not acquire him as well? Then put nuge on the 3rd to have 2 2nd lines? Also kanes negative value should give us a break on acquiring hertl. Not only that id rather trade kassian to another team that isnt even in the same conference. Maybe to ott and get Watson and zub.
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I know this is a Kane to Edm thread, but I like the way you threw this deal in there. Kassian for Zub and Watson. You either know nothing of Zub, or thought you could sneak this in because Sens fans aren't in a SJ and Edm thread, but that is brutal for the Sens. Zub has been ther best RHD for 2 seasons, signed for $2.5 AAV - if you want to attach Kassian to the deal, be prepared to include a prospect you don't want to lose.
 

topshelf15

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Does EDM really need this though???Scoring really doesnt seem like an issue for them
 

McSuper

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Counter offer, how about Kassian + 2nd for Kane @ 2.5 M?

This assumes Sharks retain 2.0, while paying a 3rd team your 2nd and our own 3rd (plus maybe a B prospect, or perhaps a 2023 3rd) to retain 2.5 M on Kane for 3 years (after this one). Thoughts?


We can not trade our 2nd this year it is part of a condition on the Keith trade but done if we can do the 2023 2nd .

Kane McDavid Hyman ...Good luck stopping this line
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McSuper

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Let me say this, I do not like Kane's character. However, I would 100% pull the trigger on this deal.

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I also have a similar thought . I also don't think Kane would like Edmonton which isn't a bad thing . You talk to him and tell him if you want out keep your nose clean for a while and we will trade you . Getting Kane to focus on being a hockey player to raise his value . Who knows tho , He not the smartest person on the ice or in the casino/bar .

I like the deal that gets us Kane for 2.5 million while we lose Kassian . We gain cap and if Kane starts shit send him to the A and if he starts shit there terminate his contact .
 
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Double Dion

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This is where fans get things wrong. You like the on ice contribution. I'm pro second chances, but this guy has had 7 or 8 chances. You don't bring him in at any price to a successful team. The Oilers have made enough big mistakes. Make a solid add on the blueline and the 3rd line, hope the goaltending holds up and go with what you have.
 
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The Devilish Buffoon

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If hertl is wanting to leave why not acquire him as well? Then put nuge on the 3rd to have 2 2nd lines? Also kanes negative value should give us a break on acquiring hertl. Not only that id rather trade kassian to another team that isnt even in the same conference. Maybe to ott and get Watson and zub.
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You might get Watson & MDZ for Kassian.... if you want Zub, though, you're putting Bouchard on the table.
 

Gecklund

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No he wouldn't. Kane is best on his own line creating plays. He shoots the puck way too way too much and will take it out of McDavid's hands too often. I watched it with Eichel and McDavid is clearly levels and levels ahead of Jack and you always want him with the puck.

It's not to say Kane wouldn't have value on third line making $3.5 M. The guy creates his own offence -- he's a bull on the ice. Off the ice.... ouch
Kane just had his best season ever with Hertl driving play. You are wrong.
 

CycloneSweep

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Counter offer, Edmonton gives San Jose a signed McDavid jersey to not even mention Kane to us. Thanks.
 

TFHockey

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You might get Watson & MDZ for Kassian.... if you want Zub, though, you're putting Bouchard on the table.

That is an absurd ask.

I don't support the Kassian for Zub trade as it is really unfair to the Sens, but you went too far the other way and asked for Edmonton's top pairing offensive RHD.
 

TFHockey

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If the Sharks have to retain 50% plus take on Kassian then they might as well just buy Kane out.

Kassian isn't a net negative like Kane. He is overpaid for what he brings but he isn't a problem for the Sharks organization.

I sort of see your point about a buyout being a possibility. Kane will would against San Jose's cap until 2028 but the last few years are a modest 1.6 Million AAV
 

Bizz

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No thanks. We're not retaining 50% on Kane and taking back two useless cap dumps to a divisional opponent, especially when we are in playoff contention.
 

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At this stage Kane is only getting traded to a team that has plenty of cap space and wants some draft picks to buy him out. San Jose is paying him to not play for them right now, I highly doubt he's returning any NHL player unless it's another guy in a similar situation. If he's bought out, I could see plenty of teams taking a risk on him for a 1 year deal kind of like DeAngelo.
 

The Devilish Buffoon

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That is an absurd ask.

I don't support the Kassian for Zub trade as it is really unfair to the Sens, but you went too far the other way and asked for Edmonton's top pairing offensive RHD.

Zub is Ottawa's top pairing RHD and a legit 2/3DMan making pennis.

I realize Edmonton would never do that deal, but it's the lowest price they would get Zub for. No interest in trading him for a winger or wing prospect... no interest in trading him for picks... no interest in trading him for anything but a cost-controlled top 4 RHD or top 6 C.
 

Larry Hanson

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Kassian isn't a net negative like Kane.
If he was making 1M I suppose he might have value as a 3/4th liner but at 3.2M for 3 more years he's a big net negative IMO. From what I've seen lately Oiler fans want him catapulted into the sun, can't imagine other fanbases are eager to have him.
 

Pinkfloyd

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If he was making 1M I suppose he might have value as a 3/4th liner but at 3.2M for 3 more years he's a big net negative IMO. From what I've seen lately Oiler fans want him catapulted into the sun, can't imagine other fanbases are eager to have him.

I would take him for one of our problem contracts but I'm sure Oilers fans would consider ours worse so it's tough to say what a deal would look like there. Between Kane, Vlasic, Labanc, and Simek, I would think there's at least some deal to be done swapping bad contracts but who knows?
 

Mattb124

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No he wouldn't. Kane is best on his own line creating plays. He shoots the puck way too way too much and will take it out of McDavid's hands too often. I watched it with Eichel and McDavid is clearly levels and levels ahead of Jack and you always want him with the puck.

It's not to say Kane wouldn't have value on third line making $3.5 M. The guy creates his own offence -- he's a bull on the ice. Off the ice.... ouch

Kane is actually a pretty good playmaker as well, not nearly as one-dimensional as you suggest. Last season he had 22 goals and 19 primary assist (27 total assists). He certainly can create his own offense, but is more well-rounded than you imply.
 

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