Proposal: Evander Kane to Edmonton

JAK

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I'm not sure if Oilers has the locker room to absorb Kane.
There's just no reason to mess with the team with a risk factor like Kane.

Oilers instead, should target players that can support the stars and be complementary players.
They don't need more scoring, they need players that can play when 97 and 29 isn't.
 

Jumptheshark

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I know this guy is a head case and has utterly worn out his welcome in San Jose. So let's try this:

:edmonton

Evander Kane @ 50%

:sharks

Zack Kassian
Kyle Turris

Turris is a UFA at the end of the year. Kassian is hot and cold but might be exactly what the Sharks are looking for in a team guy.

Kane plays on the right side in the top six. If he doesn't thrive there he won't thrive anywhere.


oilers need to send more money out long term
 

BillR10

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If hertl is wanting to leave why not acquire him as well? Then put nuge on the 3rd to have 2 2nd lines? Also kanes negative value should give us a break on acquiring hertl. Not only that id rather trade kassian to another team that isnt even in the same conference. Maybe to ott and get Watson and zub.
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If the rumors are true, Hertl is a big reason Kanes not coming back. Doubt he'd want to go with him
 
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belair

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I'm not sure if Oilers has the locker room to absorb Kane.
There's just no reason to mess with the team with a risk factor like Kane.

Oilers instead, should target players that can support the stars and be complementary players.
They don't need more scoring, they need players that can play when 97 and 29 isn't.
The Oilers' locker room goes through Connor and Leon. I can't see how a guy like Kane would act in the same manner post-SJ playing behind two of the biggest personalities in the game.

When it comes to team need, you're not wrong, but there's always the option to move a player like Hyman or RNH to a third line when needed to spread out the depth. When all is said and done, you're really only upgrading on Kassian and Kane is clearly that.

He's also an effective PKer and another impactful skater on the powerplay. The guy has shit for brains, but this would be a win for Edmonton.
 
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stator

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Nobody will take Kane he's buyout material and gone from NHL. He is not worth the drama and possible legal issues.

I think GMs are looking at it from the perspective of what amount they're willing to take the cap hit from a buyout if it comes to that. That's why we are hearing much about another team retaining salary so the team that ends up with Kane has a figure they are will to take from a buyout.

I think the rub, and likely one of the major reasons why a trade hasn't happened so far, is who pays the middle team to retain that 25%? Sharks or the team receiving Kane. I bet that the team receiving Kane thinks the Sharks should, and DW thinks that team should.

Some are talking about Carolina potentially being the team that receives Kane for a playoff push. Kane is not known as the equivalent of MLB's Mr October. Kane started out the first few games of his playoff career doing well, then he choked for the remaining games.

If a team does obtain Kane for playoff purposes, I have to assume they will buy him out at the end of the season, if they cannot trade him.
 
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Stuzchuk

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Counter offer, how about Kassian + 2nd for Kane @ 2.5 M?

This assumes Sharks retain 2.0, while paying a 3rd team your 2nd and our own 3rd (plus maybe a B prospect, or perhaps a 2023 3rd) to retain 2.5 M on Kane for 3 years (after this one). Thoughts?
only half the caphit of a player can be retained during the course of a full season. He still has 3 more years after this one, the reason why it only happened twice since the cap was introduced and both time at the NHL TDL (more than half of caphit eaten up by the team)... so not possible (IE: D. Savard trade & M. Janmark trade)

As for OP... talent-wise it might work but I'm not entirely sure that the Oilers administration want to take the risk on E. Kane
 
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stator

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I know this guy is a head case and has utterly worn out his welcome in San Jose. So let's try this:

:edmonton

Evander Kane @ 50%

:sharks

Zack Kassian
Kyle Turris

Turris is a UFA at the end of the year. Kassian is hot and cold but might be exactly what the Sharks are looking for in a team guy.

Kane plays on the right side in the top six. If he doesn't thrive there he won't thrive anywhere.

Throw in Vlasic, and I say its a go. Oilers are going to need more playoff experienced vets.
 
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antiqueslivers

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oof I would stear clear of Kane if I were the oilers. Last the team needs is some discordant personality adding drama.
 

cyris

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Somebody will take him, sports have no morals it's been proven over and over and over again talent comes first and as long as Kane can score 30 he will find a home
Sports have no morals but teams hate players that are a distraction or cause problems in the locker rooms.
So while team won’t care about his ethical flaws even tho they should they will care that 2 teams now have had their players refuse to play with him.
 

Chayos

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this isn't the "pay us to take him" price that I'd take Kane for. The guy is pure poison.
Kassian was that guy not that long ago and he doesn't have Kane's skill. I would do this deal in a heartbeat. We would actually game cap room this year.
 

Gecklund

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They would but they're easier to remove than Kane is and it's not like we're using our bottom six to give many young guys opportunities right now.
Bonino, Cogliano, and Nieto are the only ones in there (granted half) that get regular playing time that aren’t the young guys but we also have Dahlen and Gregor (recently) in the top 6. I’d rather be giving guys like Leonard, Merkley, and Raska opportunities but all three of the vets are important on the PK. With Turris and Kassian in there, you’re cutting out Gadjovich and Weatherby at least. Are the vets better? Probably but I’d still rather the younger guys have the space for the opportunity.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Sports have no morals but teams hate players that are a distraction or cause problems in the locker rooms.
So while team won’t care about his ethical flaws even tho they should they will care that 2 teams now have had their players refuse to play with him.

If that were true Tony deangelo wouldn't have a job.
 
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JAK

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The Oilers' locker room goes through Connor and Leon. I can't see how a guy like Kane would act in the same manner post-SJ playing behind two of the biggest personalities in the game.

When it comes to team need, you're not wrong, but there's always the option to move a player like Hyman or RNH to a third line when needed to spread out the depth. When all is said and done, you're really only upgrading on Kassian and Kane is clearly that.

He's also an effective PKer and another impactful skater on the powerplay. The guy has shit for brains, but this would be a win for Edmonton.

It would just be too much of a distraction for the team, not to mention his cap hit and years left on the contract.

Kane isn't a risk that Oilers should take at all from any management point of view IMO.
 

thadd

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I'd only be cool with this if Kane agreed to go to counselling sessions (I didn't say therapy there) twice a week.
 

belair

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It would just be too much of a distraction for the team, not to mention his cap hit and years left on the contract.

Kane isn't a risk that Oilers should take at all from any management point of view IMO.
Obviously it's a move that goes through the leadership group there, but we're going under the assumption that it'd essentially be a net zero cap transaction with full retention and Kassian's contract headed back the other way.

When it comes to a distraction I fail to see what could possibly occur that becomes a big story. A large distraction is a player's poor production. And Kane isn't really known for that. Kassian is.

When it comes to Kane, he's been accused of a number of misdeeds, he's been a dishing on numerous occasions and he's bet himself into bankruptcy. What more can he do when he's in Edmonton?
 

NegativeNelly

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Kane caused shit in Winnipeg, then Buffalo, then San Jose. Even his San Jose teammates reportedly don't want him around. Why the f*** would we want that issue? Perhaps we should get a goalie that doesnt let in the first goal of every game?
 

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No he isn’t, but for the same money as Kassian we are a better team.
You think so eh? Winnipeg didn't think so. Buffalo didn't think so. San Jose doesn't think so. What do you know that those other teams don't?
Face it... no matter how good a player he is on the ice he's a locker room cancer ... so much so that San Jose is willing to pay $14-24 million just to cut it out.
 

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