Player Discussion Evan Bouchard

[Tobias Kahun]

Handicap Bouch's playmaking by Nurse creating chaos all night when he's out. Nurse needs a more stay home defender that can keep leaning to covering for his chaos. Then we handicap Ekholm by taking away the elite playmaking on his pair. Last time Ek had to babysit a young D, he was sent off as a cap dump with lots of term left on his deal.

Dunno if that will work out too well overall. Emberson might be the stay home guy that could work with Nurse. If not, Bowman has work to do still.

Ekholm was sent off as a cap dump?

What?

 

[jukon]

I would like to see us re sign Bouchard this summer. I don't see much reason why we would want to wait

I highly doubt Knoblauch will separate Bouchard and Ekholm. We did that last year for a bit at the start and it was one of many initiatives we did that crashed and burned

Ekholm wasn't healthy enough at the beginning of the season to give it a proper try.

 

[oobga]

Ekholm was sent off as a cap dump?

What?

Redundant because they picked up the amazing McDonagh and Ekholm had a weak season 1 year into his new 4 year deal. Then they end up dumping McDonagh, which is kinda funny.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Redundant because they picked up the amazing McDonagh and Ekholm had a weak season 1 year into his new 4 year deal. Then they end up dumping McDonagh, which is kinda funny.

He still wasn’t a cap dump.

He brought back 2 first rounders

 

[oobga]

He still wasn’t a cap dump.

He brought back 2 first rounders

Having to get Barrie off our cap was part of the cost. And Schaefer was already looking like a weak pick taking a step back from his draft year. Was basically for a 1st. For a D we desperately needed with 3 years left on his deal, that's pretty generous of Nashville. Although, they wanted him off the books.

IMO, trading a regular roster player, especially someone you developed their whole career, with years left on their deal for magic beans is cap dumping. If we were to trade Kane this season for a 1st and some cheap 3rd liner to a team desperate for some scoring to prepare for the summer, I'd call that a cap dump as well.

 

[GOilers88]

So? How do we all feel about the rumblings that aren't going to stop until he signs now?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So? How do we all feel about the rumblings that aren't going to stop until he signs now?

It's like anything right, as long as he's not signed, people will say things. I suspect he gets done. Honestly he's a no brainer for this franchise.

 

[GOilers88]

It's like anything right, as long as he's not signed, people will say things. I suspect he gets done. Honestly he's a no brainer for this franchise.

Moreso with the reported ask of 11M.

Where do you think the number actually lands?

 

[bucks_oil]

Moreso with the reported ask of 11M.

Where do you think the number actually lands?

Seider at $8.55M really helps IMO. You obviously wouldn't expect the Bouchard camp to admit it, but Seider is the better all around defender and we are only paying for two additional UFA years given Bouchard's bridge.

I'm thinking high 9's. Like 9.7M, that has a nice ring to it.

 

[oobga]

Seider at $8.55M really helps IMO. You obviously wouldn't expect the Bouchard camp to admit it, but Seider is the better all around defender and we are only paying for two additional UFA years given Bouchard's bridge.

I'm thinking high 9's. Like 9.7M, that has a nice ring to it.

Seider struggled the 2 seasons after his rookie year. Not a sniff of playoffs while Bouch blew the doors off in 2 playoff runs already. 21 more points than any other D the last 2 playoff years. 9 more than anyone the last 3 playoffs.

Dobson needs a deal next summer too, and Lou has been pretty generous these days for whatever reason. But also, Dobson probably won't get a sniff in playoffs either. If he does, he managed 3 assists in his last 2 playoffs.

If Dobson gets tossed ~10M, we are hooped I think. 11M+ for sure if Bouch can follow up last year. If the cap increase is massive, makes it even harder.

 

[bucks_oil]

Seider struggled the 2 seasons after his rookie year. Not a sniff of playoffs while Bouch blew the doors off in 2 playoff runs already. 21 more points than any other D the last 2 playoff years. 9 more than anyone the last 3 playoffs.

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Dobson needs a deal next summer too, and Lou has been pretty generous these days for whatever reason. But also, Dobson probably won't get a sniff in playoffs either. If he does, he managed 3 assists in his last 2 playoffs.

If Dobson gets tossed ~10M, we are hooped I think. 11M+ for sure if Bouch can follow up last year. If the cap increase is massive, makes it even harder.

Errrrgh...

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Moreso with the reported ask of 11M.

Where do you think the number actually lands?

Honestly closer to $10M, personally I'm happy with $11M, he's worth it, no question in my mind, but I expect him to go in a $11M, the team might start around $9-9.5M then meet around the middle.

Can't say for certain, but if you're the organization you cannot let this linger over $500K-$1M per.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Seider struggled the 2 seasons after his rookie year. Not a sniff of playoffs while Bouch blew the doors off in 2 playoff runs already. 21 more points than any other D the last 2 playoff years. 9 more than anyone the last 3 playoffs.

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Dobson needs a deal next summer too, and Lou has been pretty generous these days for whatever reason. But also, Dobson probably won't get a sniff in playoffs either. If he does, he managed 3 assists in his last 2 playoffs.

If Dobson gets tossed ~10M, we are hooped I think. 11M+ for sure if Bouch can follow up last year. If the cap increase is massive, makes it even harder.

Yes, getting Bouchard done before Dobson will be important for Bouchard's overall cap hit for this team imo.

 

[Mr Positive]

Seider at $8.55M really helps IMO. You obviously wouldn't expect the Bouchard camp to admit it, but Seider is the better all around defender and we are only paying for two additional UFA years given Bouchard's bridge.

I'm thinking high 9's. Like 9.7M, that has a nice ring to it.

Except Bouchard had to put up with being bridged. Even if he is worse he'd get more than Seider. But I agree it's at least a comparable