Love Bouch but if you swap him and Dahlin one player gets much worse and the other stays the same skill wise. (hint, its not Bouch).ya Dahlin is a great player but Bouchard outscored him at every strength, was on the ice for less GA and is a proven ELITE playoff performer, unlike Dahlin
he's getting that kind of money
Well, clearly we're talking about his contract demands coming up, no? Hence "Evan Bouchard asking for 11m aav on his next deal."What are you talking about? How can he get it now? For starters, he’s still signed for another year. Then we can revisit his ask next off-season and, if it’s still 11 mil and we don’t see him holding that value, then we go to arbitration where he can point to Dahlin (who most would agree is better than Bouch) and we can point to Makar, Heiskanen and Hughes. Unless a bunch of other Dmen sign for 10+ mil in that time, I would have to think an arbitrator sides with the 8-9 mil range.
I think most players walk away from arbitration hearings wishing they hadn’t gone that route (regardless of the decision) because of the nasty nature of the process. I think 2yrs x 8 is a fair bridge to get to UFA status. Then he can see his worth on the open market.
Just like they did this summer, huh.You will see 4th liners and bottom pairing D point to nurse contract in future when they want to re-sign with oilers
Seriously, I wonder if some people watch Evan Bouchard play.Trade him he aint worth that.
Still way too high for a one dimensional d man. They can go get a great pp qb that cant play against the other teams best players for half that.
Bouchard had 10 goals, 47 points at even strength.Two of them are Norris trophy D-man the other is a two way stud
I will make a list of Dman better than Bouchard
Makar
Hughes
Josi
Fox
Mcavoy
Heiskanen
Slavin
Dobson
Morrisey
I consider all of these better than Bouchard, Makar, Josi and Hughes would all put up just as much if not better numbers on that Oilers PP
You're dreaming if you think the cap is raising 13.0 in two years.Hell get 10. Cap will be 100 in 2 years. Doesnt matter. You can still fill out a great team with 60 mill
We have made it Oiler fans!
Rival fans are more locked into our players contract negotiations than we are.
Don't worry Flames fans, you wont have to worry about cap hits or the cap ceiling for some time....because your team is going to be terrible.
McDavid and Draisaitl are the only important ones to lock in long term, I'd bridge Bouchard for 2-3 years in a lower cap range. He's still young and then can get himself a longer 8 year deal after that one.
Yes, you will possibly end up paying more in the long run, but the 2-3 years buys a significant window and it also moves Nurse from an ironclad NMC to a NTC list he has to submit so he becomes a possibility to move out at that point and his actual salary drops to only 7 mill a year.
Plus you will have a cap that is probably over $100 million by then thanks to the new TV deal.
I wouldn't be in any hurry to lock in to a 8 year deal now just because.
You're dreaming if you think the cap is raising 13.0 in two years.
Yeah, call up Bouchard's agent and tell him your looking for a 2 year deal.........ask him if he wants league min while we are at it as well.
The rumors of 2 expansion teams, new TV deal in 2026. It could easily be at $100M by 2026-27.
I think Bouchard is more valuable than dahlin because Bouchard is a RD. RD are a premium. If hronek got 7.5 mil per, Bouchard getting 10mil as a RD isn’t as outrageous as you think.
I don't believe those metrics exist. Bouchard is an offense-first player, but his defensive game has grown by leaps and bounds. Anyone suggesting he is a liability defensively has lost the plot, or is hanging on to old and outdated narratives. The Oilers had one of the best defensive teams in the league last year after their disastrous start, they couldn't have done that with a group of defensemen who had, according to HF standards, only one good defensive defenseman in Ekholm. If Bouchard sucks defensively, Nurse sucks, Ceci sucked, etc, the Oilers wouldn't have been so good defensively last year, and wouldn't have been able to go through to the finals.Seriously, I wonder if some people watch Evan Bouchard play.
You're acting like he's a PP specialist. He drives offense at an elite level at even strength too and has improved defensively to the point that he's what I would say average defensively which for lots of high end offensive dmen is the case. Whether or not one thinks a big part of that is due to Ekholm (and btw, Ekholm has played the best hockey of his career alongside Bouchard as well) is entirely subjective but the reality is that he's one half of arguably the best pairing in the NHL last season or at least one of the best and he's still developing at 24 so he's going to get paid accordingly.
For those who say he is bad defensively, I'd like to see some metrics that illustrate this because it's BS.