Erling Haaland NHL Equivalent

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DaveG

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elite goalscorer with size and physicality. Holes in his overall game but he's such an elite net-front guy that you just don't care. Ovechkin makes some sense here with the first 3 criteria, but with the net-front presence being such a factor for Haaland I'll go Esposito instead.
 

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Goal per game when a match averages three is nuts.

It’s an absolute anomaly. There are less goals scored in football than there is hockey yet we haven’t seen a player go goal per game in a full season in the modern era.

Now here is the question.

If Auston Matthews played 60 minutes a game for however many games is in a football season, how many goals would he amass?
He would be rendered useless by game 20 hockey is an explosive sport so the endurance required for hockey and futbol is different
 

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A lot of attempted Haaland erasure in this thread.

He'll go down as one of the best pure goal-scorers ever, so the Ovechkin comparison is apt.
This is actually Ovechkin erasure. Håland is a useless as they come aside from tapping in easy goals. Ovechkin is a complete player and will always be considered one of the best ever in his sport, Håland won't.
 

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For those who aren’t watching, Norwegian striker Erling Haaland is currently toying with what most consider to be the best soccer league in the world.

In a sport/league that averages around 3 total goals per match, this guy has averaged a goal per game over two full seasons (he is three games into his third season now having missed just a handful for various reasons), with 70G in 69GP.

The previous reigning best striker in this league, Harry Kane, scored 8 hat tricks over the course of 320 matches. Haaland has equaled that in 69 matches. The leader in hat tricks in league history had 12 in 275 matches.

I feel like this level of goal scoring is better than even Gretzky and Lemieux when adjusting for sport/era. What kind of stats would a hockey player have to put up to match this level of dominance?
He's a level below Messi in his prime. But he's definitely the best in the box striker in the world. He demolishes bottom feeders. Against physical centre backs he runs into more issues (Arsenals cb duo of Gabriel and Saliva kept him to 0 goals last season and 0 shots on target in both games). Man City also have such an advantage team wise compared teams ranked from 9-20. Most small teams once that first city goal goes in its pretty much open season after that. That's why you will see a resilient team later into the season do well against them for 67 minutes and then all of a sudden city is up 4-0 and it's not all down to haaland. He's definitely better than the penalty master Harry Kane. Is he better footballer than Aguero it's debatable. He's definitely better in the box and in the air but that's what happens when your 6'5.

He's the top Target man in the world and best one we have seen in years. Generational goal scorer.

Would still rank guys like prime zlatan much higher just because he's a more complete player.
 
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Ovechkin is the closest - Haaland has incredible pace, strength, skill, and is a flat out beast. Ovi had that when he was younger, when he got the puck you thought "if he gets a shot off it's going in".

Matthews is a little more cerebral, not quite the bull Ovi and Haaland are.
 

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This is actually Ovechkin erasure. Håland is a useless as they come aside from tapping in easy goals. Ovechkin is a complete player and will always be considered one of the best ever in his sport, Håland won't.
It's an unfair comparison between a sport where a player is expected to be complete over 200 feet (Ovechkin is a terrible example of a complete hockey player BTW!) and a sport where scoring from close range is literally a position.

The notion that Haaland doesn't go down as an all-time great, barring injury, is ridiculous. At age 24, he's already closing in on 200 senior goals for club and country. 500, which is a formality if he stays healthy, would put him in the top 25 all-time. He would already have a Ballon d'Or if they didn't decide to give Messi a lifetime achievement award.
 

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It's an unfair comparison between a sport where a player is expected to be complete over 200 feet (Ovechkin is a terrible example of a complete hockey player BTW!) and a sport where scoring from close range is literally a position.
It's also completely unfair to Haaland to say "useless as they come aside from tapping in easy goals." Calling all Haaland's finishes "easy" is like saying "well, all Ovie does is pump them from the same spot on the PP, so it's not that impressive." The best scorers make it look easy, both of them do that.

That said... Haaland may be even more specialized than Ovie in the early years (not so now, where Ovie really has become pretty one-trick). Maybe, as someone else said, Ibrahimovic is Ovie, and Haaland is Hull... or something.
 

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It's also completely unfair to Haaland to say "useless as they come aside from tapping in easy goals." Calling all Haaland's finishes "easy" is like saying "well, all Ovie does is pump them from the same spot on the PP, so it's not that impressive." The best scorers make it look easy, both of them do that.

That said... Haaland may be even more specialized than Ovie in the early years (not so now, where Ovie really has become pretty one-trick). Maybe, as someone else said, Ibrahimovic is Ovie, and Haaland is Hull... or something.
You also have to take into account that a center-forward in football, with ten outfield players, is just inherently way more specialized than a wing in hockey, with five skaters. The wing is going to score in more diverse ways than the striker. I would argue they're both equally imposing within the rules of their respective sports. Haaland has no defensive role to speak of and Ovechkin is one of the worst defensive players of the last 15 years, so that's also kind of a wash. Ovechkin is easily the better playmaker, so he has that, which perhaps makes Hull a better comparison.

Even if it is Hull, it's a hell of a stretch to say Brett Hull isn't "one of the best hockey players of all-time."
 
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Someone said he scores easy goals. The tricky part is to find the spot to get a pass and with no space handle the ball and shoot it behind goalie. Look at his second goal against Aston Villa. With little effort he just roofs it.
 

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There's a parallel to Kopitar in that despite being absolutely world class, Haaland has yet to play in any major international tournament because the rest of his countrymen aren't up to standard.
Yet Kvicha Kvara has no teammate like Odegaard and still got Georgia to the round of 16 and even a lead over the euro winners Spain
 

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Must not have watched him at BVB
Dortmund has always been a good team. The honest truth is Haaland needs good playmakers to score, if he doesn't get the ball in the box he is absolutely useless.
 

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Matthews or Ovechkin by stats, but Kreider in terms of playing style
 

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Haaland is a weird player because he’s so opportunistic but doesn’t really seem involved until the moment he scores. I saw him play a World Cup qualifier in Oslo and for the first 60 minutes I couldn’t believe how lazy and uninterested he looked, then a cross came in and out of nowhere he jumped over a defender and headed it into the top corner; then walked around for the rest of the game; they tied 1-1.
 

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I can guarantee you that he wouldn't put up this numbers playing for the other Manchester club.
Nobody isn't saying it's because of City, but it helps a ton playing in the best club with the best manager and absolutely insane supporting cast. Aguero, Sterling and Jesus all scored a ton too, but they are absolutely different type of strikers. Small, fast and very technical, Haaland is absolute opposite and it seems to work perfectly.

Why not ? He was able to do it during the CL, playing with Salzburg and Dortmund, depicting him as a product of City's team is laughable.

Aguero used to be a great striker, he proved his value in LaLiga, before signning with City.

Gabriel Jesus never scored a ton, especially knowing that he's a striker.

Sterling had his best years in City, but he was fairly young with Liverpool.
 

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I've never seen a player do his job so well and get constant hate for doing it. Haaland is a pure striker with a ridiculous goal per game rate and people constantly get upset cause he doesn't do dribble moves
 

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Ovechkin before he started playing defense and rounded his game out, is only equivalent I can think of.

Haaland is deadly, but outside of scoring is league 2 player. He is heavily criticized for lacking a all round game.

He is basically Mario Gomez, but scores more.
 

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Early days for the EPL. Let's see where he is at game 15. Also he plays for Man City and they are fighting a lot of charges to prevent the biggest point deduction in football history.

Owners have suggested they will try to fold the club if hit with deduction.

If he was doing this say Fulham or Ipswich I would be more impressed.
People keep saying it’s early days. He’s been doing this for two+ seasons now.

Yes his team context is about as good as you can ask for but his goal scoring pace is completely ridiculous.
 
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There's no need to downplay him. He is a generational goalscorer and at the end of the day goals win you games and trophies. He's the best in the world at that. He's not the best player in the world nor is he close to what Messi was (not even close), but any team would die to have him
 

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