Value of: Erik Karlsson @ 50%

[Lemieuxs]

With the Pens rebuilding, what would the value of Erik Karlsson be at 50%?
Pens would be looking for draft picks and prospects. No cap dumps or older roster players.

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[ChaoticOrange]

The type of teams that would be interested in Karlsson at 50% are also the type of teams that would have to send salary back to fit him in, even at 50%.

 

[Lemieuxs]

The type of teams that would be interested in Karlsson at 50% are also the type of teams that would have to send salary back to fit him in, even at 50%.

I don't agree with that. Every team would want EK as their top defensemen for $5M a year for the next 3 years.

 

[AslanRH]

I don't agree with that. Every team would want EK as their top defensemen for $5M a year for the next 3 years.

except for Pittsburgh apparently according to your OP

 

[Lemieuxs]

except for Pittsburgh apparently according to your OP

Every team (trying to compete) ... and that is half what Pittsburgh is paying.

 

[BostonBob]

I don't agree with that. Every team would want EK as their top defensemen for $5M a year for the next 3 years.

Every team (trying to compete) ... and that is half what Pittsburgh is paying.

If Erik Karlsson is your top Defenseman then you are not competing for the Stanley Cup.

 

[molon labe]

If Erik Karlsson is your top Defenseman then you are not competing for the Stanley Cup.

Ridiculous take.

 

[BostonBob]

Ridiculous take.

Then just keep him.

 

[molon labe]

Then just keep him.

We're not competing for the cup? The whole premise of the thread.

 

[Blaylock38]

Seems like more of a Trade Deadline move.

 

[Lemieuxs]

Seems like more of a Trade Deadline move.

He is under contract for 3 more seasons.

 

[Mac Attack]

If the Panthers move Ekblad you'd have to think this would be a good fit for them

 

[Blaylock38]

He is under contract for 3 more seasons.

Ok? It still seems like a move that a competing team would make at the Trade Deadline, especially if it is prospects and pick based return.

 

[Rowlet]

He is under contract for 3 more seasons.

Sure but teams accrue more cap space until the deadline making him easier to fit

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't think the Penguins should be retaining that long on Karlsson, at least not right now.

Sell him off in 2026 with that kind of retention when he has 1 or 2 years left.

 

[Lemieuxs]

I don't think the Penguins should be retaining that long on Karlsson, at least not right now.

Sell him off in 2026 with that kind of retention when he has 1 or 2 years left.

It is long, but the intent was to maximize the return.... although so far, it does not sound promising
Also, Petry and Smith come off the books as well as Jack Johnson over the next year (2 for JJ). We are not competing over the next 3 years, so the thought was 'why not'!

 

[Killer Orcas]

EK has value at 50% for sure but if he was getting moved would have been better idea to trade him before everyone blew their cap space in free agency. Trade deadline he would again be someone to check on especially if he's healthy at that point. I think there would be plenty of suitors for him at 50%.

 

[Extra Texture]

Pens would be looking for draft picks and prospects. No cap dumps or older roster players.

I, on the other hand, would be completely fine with the Pens retaining 50% on EK AND taking back cap dumps or bad money, barring some notable exceptions.

For example, how much would Edmonton pay in futures to switch Ceci at 3.25M (and some asset to even out the $$$) for EK at 5M? Or how much would Vegas pay to swap Pietro at his salary for EK at 8M? These are just random examples, but I would think any contending team would jump at the chance for a major upgrade when they're within striking distance of the cup.

If some team is willing to take a (still) premiere player in the middle of their contention window, and salary is the only thing holding it back, I dont care. Take the money back. Before EK's value drops off for good. The Pens have shown their direction, clearly, with Hayes. I'm fine embracing that direction with zero stipulations.

 

[OrrNumber4]

What about Karlsson back to the Sharks? He goes from a non-competing team at the very start of their rebuild to a non-competing team in the middle of their rebuild.

 

[SensFactor]

Pens will have to attach a 2nd or an excellent prospect to get rid of that contract.

 

[ElPrimeTime]

Keep the retention... can I interest you in one Darnell Nurse?

 

[KevinRedkey]

except for Pittsburgh apparently according to your OP

That doesn't make any sense...
If a team is willing and able to eat 50%, Pittsburgh would love to keep Karlsson.

 

[AslanRH]

That doesn't make any sense...
If a team is willing and able to eat 50%, Pittsburgh would love to keep Karlsson.

So think of EK as a $5m player and the other $5m is an invisible player

existing scenario is you have what you "would love to keep" + the invisible player
or
trade scenario is you have the return + the invisible player

sounds like the OP would prefer the return over EK since the other part is equal

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Keep the retention... can I interest you in one Darnell Nurse?

How many Picks / prospects are being added?

 

[ElPrimeTime]

How many Picks / prospects are being added?

The deal is one for one!