Player Discussion Erik Gudbranson (D) to Sens for 5th round pick

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

It was a miscalculation by Dorion who appeared to be doing what DJ wanted.

Zaitsev’s cap space would be pretty valuable right now.

Yes, all these salaries add up and impact the chance to bring others in, even though we don't need the cap space.

They like that mid tier 3-5 mil money to non needle movers a little too much imo.

 

[Masked]

Is this a professional capologist's opinion or just the opinion of a fan?

If it'll make you feel better I can find some Youtube "authority" to parrot that take.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

If it'll make you feel better I can find some Youtube "authority" to parrot that take.

Go for it. You seem to have some pretty hot takes yourself. I will be paying closer attention from now on.

 

[GCK]

His real dollars could be allocated to better players or getting draft picks.

He’s a 3M player with a 4.5M contract. It’s bad but not crippling. There is still money to add, it’s just waiting for someone to take it.

 

[Xspyrit]

Was Connor Brown worth it for taking on Zaitsev’s contract for 5 years and giving up a third? I don’t think so.

Didn't want to lose RFA Ceci for nothing. By trading him, you needed some salary back as well. Problem with Zaitsev is term, he had 5 years left. He might be overpaid but he's still a NHL defenseman. I know many don't like him but IMO he'd be fine playing behind a good top-3/4, which is only Chabot at the moment and unfortunately he is a DJ favorite who will overplay him

So for taking on the 5 years term, Sens needed a good sweetener. To me, Connor Brown (was 25 y/o) is an excellent piece on a good hockey team. Yes he was given bigger TOI/opportunity than he should but he responded quite well with a 50 pts pace, proving that he is far from an offensive blackhole.

This trade had no potential to be a homerun but also pretty safe that it wouldn't be a disaster. I think it's a good hockey trade for both teams.

If the Sens were always against the cap, that would have been bad but looking at the salary expenditure, really not crippling. Reality is the Sens don't have that many NHL players to pay, even some of their own players didn't want to stay in Ottawa.

Zaitsev’s cap space would be pretty valuable right now.

For?

 

[bicboi64]

We need to pray that a contender loses a top 4 near the deadline and is desperate enough to take him, believing he could adequately fill in for a couple of months.

Or maybe we tag him to a Connor Brown trade requirement, and get back a 7th, or give Seattle a 2nd to take him in the expansion draft. Or give the KGB $1M to 'misplace' his visa...

If a 2nd is all we have to give up to get rid of Zaitsev i hope it happens asap. He's a 3rd pairing guy who's going to be overplayed since he's a favourite of Smith. The minute any of our prospects play better then him they'll be able to command his salary and we'll have a crappy cap situation

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Kind of hard to predict the whole pandemic thing though. If the cap had continued to rise, his contract would not be that bad.

Speaking of which, have you folks read the TSN article about what the VGK owner said? He mentioned he thought there would be a Canadian division this season and that some teams might fold. There was also speculation from the TSN crew that they need to implement some bubbles again at the beginning of the season due to the COVID uncertainty. Speculation was there could be one Canadian bubble and three American.

 

[WaitingInVain]

If a 2nd is all we have to give up to get rid of Zaitsev i hope it happens asap. He's a 3rd pairing guy who's going to be overplayed since he's a favourite of Smith. The minute any of our prospects play better then him they'll be able to command his salary and we'll have a crappy cap situation

This is an over exaggeration.

He's your 4th defenceman. Solid, if unspectacular, second pairing defenceman.

 

[Ouroboros]

 

[NyQuil]

Plus, he's best friends with a guy who once drove the zamboni at the University of North Dakota.

 

[JD1]

Plus, he's best friends with a guy who once drove the zamboni at the University of North Dakota.

I know a guy that went to UND. Think i can get a 3M contract?

 

[TheDebater]

At least we have an idea now of what kind of team Dorion is attempting to build.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

i mean do you really need to spend 3 mill to crosscheck someone

 

[God Says No]

Sure, but can he get the puck out of our own zone without icing?

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Sure, but can he get the puck out of our own zone without icing?

The other team can't win the icing race if they're all picking up their own teeth after a crosscheck to the face!!

 

[Xspyrit]

At least we have an idea now of what kind of team Dorion is attempting to build.

Marchand to Ottawa

- e5

 

[bicboi64]

If Dorion really wants to build a team that is super physical and scares opponents with its brutality, I hope he can make a move for Zadorov. That dude hits like a beast and if he plays really well, might price himself out of Chicago. He'd be a great 2LD/3LD and unless our LD prospects turn into body checking machines, he'd be the perfect player for the identity PD wants. I don't have an issue with PD wanting a particular type of team, I just hope he wholly commits to it and builds with pieces that legitimately work. Gudbranson on his own is meh, Gudbranson with Zadorav, now that's getting physicality that can excel in other tangible aspects of the game

 

[PettersonHughes]

If Zub, Thomson or Brannstrom are ready to make the team and supplants him on RD, would you guys make a trade of Gudbranson for Eriksson and 2021 3rd? There's no way Erik can be worth much (bottom pair guy after all) and you'd weaponize cap to obtain another pick while not blocking your prospects' development. If you'd like Jordie Benn would also be available as a physical deterrent to include in the package.

 

[Sensinitis]

If Dorion really wants to build a team that is super physical and scares opponents with its brutality, I hope he can make a move for Zadorov. That dude hits like a beast and if he plays really well, might price himself out of Chicago. He'd be a great 2LD/3LD and unless our LD prospects turn into body checking machines, he'd be the perfect player for the identity PD wants. I don't have an issue with PD wanting a particular type of team, I just hope he wholly commits to it and builds with pieces that legitimately work. Gudbranson on his own is meh, Gudbranson with Zadorav, now that's getting physicality that can excel in other tangible aspects of the game

I think Kleven was drafted to be that guy. Zadorov wouldn’t play 3LD and he would have to here because Chabot and Sanderson will always be ahead of him.

 

[JD1]

If Zub, Thomson or Brannstrom are ready to make the team and supplants him on RD, would you guys make a trade of Gudbranson for Eriksson and 2021 3rd? There's no way Erik can be worth much (bottom pair guy after all) and you'd weaponize cap to obtain another pick while not blocking your prospects' development. If you'd like Jordie Benn would also be available as a physical deterrent to include in the package.

I don't think that there is any viable way that Loui Erikkson ends up in Ottawa short of a Vancouver buyout and then signing at league minimum. And I don't really see that either.

 

[Xspyrit]

If Zub, Thomson or Brannstrom are ready to make the team and supplants him on RD, would you guys make a trade of Gudbranson for Eriksson and 2021 3rd? There's no way Erik can be worth much (bottom pair guy after all) and you'd weaponize cap to obtain another pick while not blocking your prospects' development. If you'd like Jordie Benn would also be available as a physical deterrent to include in the package.

If the Sens didn't acquire/sign Murray, Gudbranson and Dadonov, Eriksson to Ottawa could have still been possible but now Ottawa won't have any problem meeting the cap floor so no point in getting Eriksson's contract (which was very attractive before in terms of salary vs cap hit) UNLESS an interesting piece would come with him. A 2021 3rd is not needed at all. We have a very strong top-25 prospect pool and several young players on the team. Also another 1st and three 2nds in next draft

 

[PettersonHughes]

What about one of Roussel/ Beagle/ Baertschi/ Sutter + Jordie Benn (as a cheaper defensive replacement) for him? If there's different combinations of grit/ skill/ defensive ability available if Dorion wants to build up the toughness component to the team.

 

[Xspyrit]

What about one of Roussel/ Beagle/ Baertschi/ Sutter + Jordie Benn (as a cheaper defensive replacement) for him? If there's different combinations of grit/ skill/ defensive ability available if Dorion wants to build up the toughness component to the team.

For Gudbranson? He was just acquired and hasn't played a game yet. Doubt he will be traded again now.

 

[bert]

What about one of Roussel/ Beagle/ Baertschi/ Sutter + Jordie Benn (as a cheaper defensive replacement) for him? If there's different combinations of grit/ skill/ defensive ability available if Dorion wants to build up the toughness component to the team.

No thanks we dont want your garbage blocking the prospects.

If Zub, Thomson or Brannstrom are ready to make the team and supplants him on RD, would you guys make a trade of Gudbranson for Eriksson and 2021 3rd? There's no way Erik can be worth much (bottom pair guy after all) and you'd weaponize cap to obtain another pick while not blocking your prospects' development. If you'd like Jordie Benn would also be available as a physical deterrent to include in the package.

They just traded a 5th for Gudbranson lol. You want the sens to take Ericksons contract a 1st better be coming with it.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]