Proposal: Penguins sell-off trades (Canucks, Avalanche, Kings and Predators)

[DingDongCharlie]

Absolutely zero interest in the Colorado one... How is Nedjelkovic even remotely an upgrade on our current goaltending, ditto O'Connor quite frankly.


And you want a 2nd for that?

I thought I was crazy thinking O'Connor does basically nothing for Colorado but add a warm body for a 2nd? That's pretty bad for the Avs. Remove Ned and maybe a 3rd rounder for DOC as depth insurance and a change of scenery to see if he can even repeat last seasons production with a new opportunity.

And I see Nuke, Drouin and Wood are expected back vs Washington now which massively lessened the need to add depth.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I thought I was crazy thinking O'Connor does basically nothing for Colorado but add a warm body for a 2nd? That's pretty bad for the Avs. Remove Ned and maybe a 3rd rounder for DOC as depth insurance and a change of scenery to see if he can even repeat last seasons production with a new opportunity.

And I see Nuke, Drouin and Wood are expected back vs Washington now which massively lessened the need to add depth.

Fretting over the difference between a 2027 2nd and a 2025 3rd seems bizarre.

The point of that deal was that Nedjelkovic had the value of a 3rd and O'Connor had the value of a 3rd, but since Colorado didn't have any 3rds in their next 2 years, it was instead a 2027 2nd (which is much less valuable than a 2025 2nd) and a 2025 4th. And for proof future 2nds are worth less than current year 2nds:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1823351551273967991

 

[benfranklin]

Value wise, sure from the Avs, but neither are really players they need nor an upgrade to anything they have.

 

[dbaz]

Fretting over the difference between a 2027 2nd and a 2025 3rd seems bizarre.

The point of that deal was that Nedjelkovic had the value of a 3rd and O'Connor had the value of a 3rd, but since Colorado didn't have any 3rds in their next 2 years, it was instead a 2027 2nd (which is much less valuable than a 2025 2nd) and a 2025 4th. And for proof future 2nds are worth less than current year 2nds:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1823351551273967991

umm this doesnt prove your point at all. you do realize stl overpaid for the pick so they could get their own pick back to offersheet broberg and hollaway, right?

 

[Empoleon8771]

umm this doesnt prove your point at all. you do realize stl overpaid for the pick so they could get their own pick back to offersheet broberg and hollaway, right?

Or maybe that's kind of trade actually shows the future value of picks?

Debating that a future 2nd isn't worth less than a current year 2nd is bizarre.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I could see Ottawa having interest in OConnor. Possibly involving Boucher?

 

[miscs75]

Beauvillier for Wahlstrom, thanks

 

[Bishop7979]

Honestly not all that impressed by what L.A can offer back for rackell and there are other teams that would probably offer more. I could see the ducks taking him back or even buffalo being a better fit, both teams have better assets to offer if you are looking to have a young player or prospect coming back in the deal.

Kailyev is almost in waiver wire territory, doesn't have the speed to be a top six winger, and I thought was potentially out for months with an injury that could require surgery. so if you wanna take a chance on him you trade rackell somewhere else and try to pick up Kailyev for one of the extra mid rounders that have been banked recently.

I know turcott was mentioned, and I actually like the kid, he has real skill, but he has about the same awareness on the ice that lindros did, and is injured just as much.

The thing with O'Connor is, he's a guy if want to keep around, especially if he gets a real opportunity at center and especially if Sullivan finally gets sh!t canned.

You need players to fill out a roster and what o'conner would get back right now is less than I feel he's actually worth.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Beauvillier for Wahlstrom, thanks

I don't like Beauvillier but you found someone I'd like even less :laugh;

Beauvillier this year alone has more goals than Wahlstrom has in the last 2 years, and he only has 5 goals this year.

If you want Beauvillier back, just throw us like a 4th and I figure he'd be yours.

 

[miscs75]

I don't like Beauvillier but you found someone I'd like even less :laugh;

Beauvillier this year alone has more goals than Wahlstrom has in the last 2 years, and he only has 5 goals this year.

If you want Beauvillier back, just throw us like a 4th and I figure he'd be yours.

Moving Wally to move out the roster spot. If not him, Fasching works too.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I disagree as they have a top tier team now. You never know what can happen between now and when/if Nabokov is ready.

If you told me that after the cup win they’d lose immediately 2 key players (Kadri and Landy) from their top 6 and sporadically a 3rd in Nuke? I’d get worried their goalie situation. Compact that with the downgrade of the d-core from things such as moving Byram and Toews’ (possibly injury related) regression? I’d have said they should have swung for the fences on a goalie.

Even with all the lineup changes since the Cup win, and key guys being out due to injury, the Avs are currently allowing the 2nd fewest shots per game in the NHL, so I'm struggling to figure out why they need to swing for the fences on a goalie. For that matter, who has been remotely available that would even be considered swinging for the fences? And how much would they cost in trade assets and cap space, both of which are in short supply?

 

[JoeSakic13]

Even with all the lineup changes since the Cup win, and key guys being out due to injury, the Avs are currently allowing the 2nd fewest shots per game in the NHL, so I'm struggling to figure out why they need to swing for the fences on a goalie. For that matter, who has been remotely available that would even be considered swinging for the fences? And how much would they cost in trade assets and cap space, both of which are in short supply?

Yet they are tied with San Jose for 2nd most GA and have a record just above .500.

Not to say it’s all on the goalie as the shots being allowed in some cases are unstoppable by any goalie, but an upgrade in net has been apparent for a while now.

 

[Armourboy]

If Nashville wasn't in essentially the same shape team wise and Letang's deal was shorter then maybe. I have no issue trading Carrier to someone, frankly I'll trade anyone on our roster defensively for the right price right now.

 

[Reaper45]

I’d trade Kaliyev easily, but no interest in Rakell. Turcotte isn’t getting traded. I don’t see the Kings and Pens as good trading partners.

 

[carjackmalone]

Hronek and Hoglander for Malkin