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GWT: EPL - Matchweek 25 (ft. MW 15)

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bluesfan94 said:
Like 75% of this thread is Liverpool fans complaining about the refs in a game the refs helped them.
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You are the one complaining every single game. Like it or not the last Everton games had some serious defficency in term of officiating and many other non liverpool related and unbiased fans have said so. It also happen every season.
This game LFC got denied (rightfully) a PK through VAR and unlike the Everton game all the fouls given to Wolves were warranted. No complain at all for me. Should Konaté have been sent off? That's quite possible but it is not the first nor the last time a player could have been booked twice have got away. It happen very often. Is this PGMOL fault? No.
 
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JeffreyLFC said:
You are the one complaining every single game. Like it or not the last Everton games had some serious defficency in term of officiating and many other non liverpool related and unbiased fans have said so. It also happen every season.
This game LFC got denied (rightfully) a PK through VAR and unlike the Everton game all the fouls given to Wolves were warranted. No complain at all for me. Should Konaté have been sent off? That's quite possible but it is not the first nor the last time a player could have been booked twice have got away. It happen very often. Is this PGMOL fault? No.
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the only people thinking Liverpool were hard done by against Everton were Liverpool fans. The neutral and unbiased fans today all see Liverpool getting dragged by PGMOL. For instance, here’s a Chelsea fan!


I don’t know why you’re so defensive. You’re going to win the title because someone released a video of Coote. Just enjoy the fact that you’re finally getting a second premier league. Who cares that both have asterisks? Diverpool is going strong.

 
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bluesfan94 said:
the only people thinking Liverpool were hard done by against Everton were Liverpool fans.
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Even if we want to say Oliver kept time properly, there is no statistical metric that remotely suggests this was a fairly officiated game. Having twice the possession and a -11 foul differential is ridiculous on its own.
bluesfan94 said:
The neutral and unbiased fans today all see Liverpool getting dragged by PGMOL. For instance, here’s a Chelsea fan!
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Liverpool fans also think it could have been worse today. It happens.
bluesfan94 said:
I don’t know why you’re so defensive. You’re going to win the title because someone released a video of Coote. Just enjoy the fact that you’re finally getting a second premier league. Who cares that both have asterisks? Diverpool is going strong.

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I mean you can’t say LFC is Diverpool when they (rightfully) got a PK overturned for diving; and at the same time say Oliver didn’t hurt LFC midweek, when Everton’s first goal was a free kick off a dive.
 
Wee Baby Seamus said:
You might be taken more seriously if you didn’t repeatedly and insistently claim that the 19-20 title had an asterisk, LOL.
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It does. It’s the only season in the history of the premier league that had a three month break. You can say they’d have won it anyway, but that’s all counterfactual. Admittedly, this title wouldn’t really have an asterisk but it’s clear that PGMOL has a finger on the scale. Which Liverpool should embrace. That’s how United has so many titles too.
 
bluesfan94 said:
the only people thinking Liverpool were hard done by against Everton were Liverpool fans. The neutral and unbiased fans today all see Liverpool getting dragged by PGMOL. For instance, here’s a Chelsea fan!


I don’t know why you’re so defensive. You’re going to win the title because someone released a video of Coote. Just enjoy the fact that you’re finally getting a second premier league. Who cares that both have asterisks? Diverpool is going strong.

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Oh. Yes some random dudes on Twitter are now the best unbiased view.

You cry so much you could probably have a river under your name now.

Every single game you cry. It's quite pathetic. It's football there would always been gray zone of officiating. (And let be honest just horrible referees overall in the EPL)

You keep claiming PGMOL want to favor LFC, this itself is quite laughable. Every single games are different from each other, this is not PGMOL but the poor decision are on the officials. The standard are very low in the EPL. That's always why they rarely get to officiate european finals.

Anyway, see you next week for your weekly crying session.
 
JeffreyLFC said:
Oh. Yes some random dudes on Twitter are now the best unbiased view.
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Picked a random Chelsea account with less than 1100 followers.
JeffreyLFC said:
You cry so much you could probably have a river under your name now.

Every single game you cry. It's quite pathetic. It's football there would always been gray zone of officiating. (And let be honest just horrible referees overall in the EPL)

You keep claiming PGMOL want to favor LFC, this itself is quite laughable. Every single games are different from each other, this is not PGMOL but the poor decision are on the officials. The standard are very low in the EPL. That's always why they rarely get to officiate finals.
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There’s no statistical basis that PGMOL favors Liverpool; in fact it’s probably much closer to the opposite. It’s just transference. Mo Salah is still the worst officiated player in the league.
 
JeffreyLFC said:
Should Konaté have been sent off?
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For a shoulder check? Nah. The way PL games have been officiated lately I'm not even sure that should have been a foul.

bluesfan94 said:
You’re going to win the title because someone released a video of Coote.
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And how many did they lose because the PL were employing a clown like Coote in the first place?

Jussi said:
Yoro and Eriksen also out due to illness...
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Looking at those starting 11s and especially those benches Spurs should be favourites today ...
 
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JeffreyLFC said:
Oh. Yes some random dudes on Twitter are now the best unbiased view.
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Which neutral and unbiased fans were you referencing in your post, then?
JeffreyLFC said:
You keep claiming PGMOL want to favor LFC, this itself is quite laughable. Every single games are different from each other, this is not PGMOL but the poor decision are on the officials.
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Yes, and when the poor decisions consistently and blatantly favor one team, it becomes a systemic problem. I'm not saying PGMOL is actively doing it, but there's at least subconscious bias.
JeffreyLFC said:
You cry so much you could probably have a river under your name now.
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Is this not how the River Mersey was formed? I just assumed that it was tons of Liverpool tears.
luiginb said:
And how many did they lose because the PL were employing a clown like Coote in the first place?
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Approximately 0. Which is why it must be so nice to be a Liverpool fan. Lost nothing substantive and gained a title. Like I said, they should embrace it.
 
Epictetus said:
Ah I see another thread derailed
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Arguably whining about the refs is currently the rails for this thread. You can thank your fellow fans on Wednesday for that one, despite Liverpool avoiding a clear red and a clear penalty. Alas. Two matches in a row without blatant reds given to Liverpool players.
 
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The only true measure of whether a team is "Top 6" is not table position, but whether Tottenham comes to play against them
 
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Savant said:
Even if we want to say Oliver kept time properly, there is no statistical metric that remotely suggests this was a fairly officiated game. Having twice the possession and a -11 foul differential is ridiculous on its own.
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Having twice the fouls and the same number of yellows is ridiculous on its own, I agree. Liverpool shouldn't foul so much if they don't want to get called for fouls.
Savant said:
I mean you can’t say LFC is Diverpool when they (rightfully) got a PK overturned for diving; and at the same time say Oliver didn’t hurt LFC midweek, when Everton’s first goal was a free kick off a dive.
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You can't say Liverpool is Diverpool when they got caught diving is a wild stance. Two dives, both rewarded by the ref on the pitch, only the most heinous of which was actually overturned. Mind you, Jota wasn't carded for diving, he just didn't get the PK. Diaz did, though, so Liverpool got the three points.
Savant said:
Does Arsenal also get an asterisk for their 19-20 FA Cup? So Arteta has zero trophies? Am I doing this right?
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Yes, there is an asterisk. It still counts as a trophy though. No one is saying Liverpool didn't win the league, just that there's an asterisk. It's okay, reading is hard!
Savant said:
Picked a random Chelsea account with less than 1100 followers.
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Popped up on my timeline. But I take it the number of followers is determinative of whether someone is a neutral fan? Or is that just a stupid argument you're trying to use to deflect?
 
Evilo said:
Came to watch Yoro vs Tel as a neutral.
Now I'm 100% for Spurs.
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I’m going to eat and then put Parma vs Roma on and take a nap. Not sure the order of which these things will happen. Not watching another second of PL today unless there is a highlight on
 
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It's good to have Vicario back. Also Kulusevski is exactly the type of player who sees the defender in front of him fall to the ground and then proceed to shoot straight into him...
 
Savant said:
I’m going to eat and then put Parma vs Roma on and take a nap. Not sure the order of which these things will happen. Not watching another second of PL today unless there is a highlight on
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Well this game is far from boring so far.
And Tel playing old type of 9, back to the goal deflecting for others. Exactly the type of games you said he couldn't play. So you should watch.

Plus I have Tell, Danso and Bergvall in my fantasy keeper league. All got them years ago for minimum bid.
 
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