Prospect Info: Emil Heineman

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What a pickup by Kent. Not many flaws in his game and can skate with the best of em. He's defensive proud like Lecks use to be with the same competitive attitude. I see him becoming the CC to Suzy for Dach, sometimes such complementary players were meant to play together. Should be called up already with Farell/Ylonen sent down.
Let him try to put Laval in the playoffs. I d say let s see if he can earn his place at camp next year.
I genuinely would like to keep Ylonen and RHP in MTL, not because they will score 20 but because it shows that hardwork and serious two way game gets you to the NHL. They both have been good since being called up.
I f Heineman is a new Lehkonen let s make him COL Lehkonen by putting him in the top 6 and on the PP.

For this to happen, MTL should trade Hoffman and Anderson in my opinion because you don‘t want any of them on your bottom 6.
 

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Let him try to put Laval in the playoffs. I d say let s see if he can earn his place at camp next year.
I genuinely would like to keep Ylonen and RHP in MTL, not because they will score 20 but because it shows that hardwork and serious two way game gets you to the NHL. They both have been good since being called up.
I f Heineman is a new Lehkonen let s make him COL Lehkonen by putting him in the top 6 and on the PP.

For this to happen, MTL should trade Hoffman and Anderson in my opinion because you don‘t want any of them on your bottom 6.
Heiny is showing he doesn't belong in the AHL right now, I'm very high on Farell but these two need to switch. Send Ylonen or Pitlick back for the playoff, Emil deserves his taste.

Agreed on Hoffman but im not worried, he will loose his spot himself for a more deserving youngster next year... before getting dumped. Andy I keep unless the right package comes up, he's playing good hockey and isnt overpaid despite the hate.

I also see RHP being the Marchand to Caufield and Suzuki's line. Size doesn't matter when you've got smarts and heart.
 
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Heiny is showing he doesn't belong in the AHL right now, I'm very high on Farell but these two need to switch. Send Ylonen or Pitlick back for the playoff, Emil deserves his taste.

Agreed on Hoffman but im not worried, he will loose his spot himself for a more deserving youngster next year... before getting dumped. Andy I keep unless the right package comes up, he's playing good hockey and isnt overpaid despite the hate.

I also see RHP being the Marchand to Caufield and Suzuki's line. Size doesn't matter when you've got smarts and heart.
I agree that Heineman is too good for the AHL but he is playing a huge role in trying to get Laval into the playoffs. Imagine how beneficial a long playoff run would be for him....

There are only 2 players eligible to be sent down for the playoffs, RHP and Ylonen, no one else.
 

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Right. I'm a huge Evans fan, but he's always injured. If we could find a good 4th line C who wins his faceoffs but can handle the physicality more, I'd move on.

Very unfortunate for him. Reminds me of Bournival in a way.

After having watched a documentary about Bournival, I must say OUCH. That comparison hurts but probably accurate. And that's scary. Bournival got so injured that even playing was a danger for him. Ever since Evans has returned I have had a hard time watching him cause being feisty and a fourth liner, he gets so targeted. I see concussions coming a mile away.
 

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Heiny is showing he doesn't belong in the AHL right now, I'm very high on Farell but these two need to switch. Send Ylonen or Pitlick back for the playoff, Emil deserves his taste.

Agreed on Hoffman but im not worried, he will loose his spot himself for a more deserving youngster next year... before getting dumped. Andy I keep unless the right package comes up, he's playing good hockey and isnt overpaid despite the hate.

I also see RHP being the Marchand to Caufield and Suzuki's line. Size doesn't matter when you've got smarts and heart.
Emil deserves his chance in the NHL, true, but now Is not the time. Laval needs the wins, Montreal needs to lose.

Next year he's got his spot in Mtl if he plays the same way in camp.

Also RHP does "deserve" to play in the top 6, but a line of him Caufield and Suzuki sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Way too small overall. On the PP maybe, sure.
 

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Yeah I don't get how we don't take a flyer on Tolvanen on waivers..

I answered this earlier.. he was put on at a time where we had more NHL forwards than spots, they weren't going to compound that problem on someone that nobody wanted even in a trade, even if he had upside from his draft year.

Seattle claimed him and they were one of the last teams to have a shot at him.
 

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Interesting update on his play since coming to Laval:

 

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This guy can shoot. He literally reminds of Pacioretty in the 2011 season right before he came up.

His nhl potential will all depend on his hockey IQ. The nhl tools are there. Clear as day. Let’s see if he has the processing.
The Hockey IQ is not the issue, consistency was rAther the problem in the SHL.
 

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He doesn't have the offensive IQ of Pacioretty but it's definitely not an issue. His shooting and skating are on par with Patch and he works alot harder but Paciorettys offensive IQ was super underrated.
 

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He doesn't have the offensive IQ of Pacioretty but it's definitely not an issue. His shooting and skating are on par with Patch and he works alot harder but Paciorettys offensive IQ was super underrated.
Very similar to Patch indeed... He can find open space to unleash the fury just like Patch did while being more assertive without the puck in the O zone. Having a pass first center like Desharnais helped Patch greatly back in his AHL days, it simplified his game and got his confidence going to use his shot.

From the 20 minute videos I saw, Heineman already showed a better one timer and passing instincts than Patch ever did. Plus he goes to the net and isn't afraid to use his shoulders. Imo he's a better prospect than Patch at the same age...
 
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Both Havrey-Pinard and Ylonen will have to clear waivers next season. So it's either you trade them or they will play in Montréal. There is no reason to trade them, both are showing good things, so the will play for the Habs next year. After that there will be a lot of competition with all the young guys we have and likely two top-15 picks this year. plus veterans and a surplus of young Ds that will end up in some trade in the next two years. So next year you send Farrell, Roy, Kidney to Laval, and I would also send Slaf there, but it won't happen. Hughes and Gorton will not do it. They are all in with this big kid, for good or bad. The initial mistake was made, they won't turn back.

Let him try to put Laval in the playoffs. I d say let s see if he can earn his place at camp next year.
I genuinely would like to keep Ylonen and RHP in MTL, not because they will score 20 but because it shows that hardwork and serious two way game gets you to the NHL. They both have been good since being called up.
I f Heineman is a new Lehkonen let s make him COL Lehkonen by putting him in the top 6 and on the PP.

For this to happen, MTL should trade Hoffman and Anderson in my opinion because you don‘t want any of them on your bottom 6.
 
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Both Havrey-Pinard and Ylonen will have to clear waivers next season. So it's either you trade the or they will play in Montréal. There is no reason to trade them, both are showing good things, so the will play for the Habs next year. After that there will be a lot of competition with all the young guys we have and likely two top-15 picks this year. plus veterans and a surplus of young Ds that will end up in some trade in the next two years. So next year you send Farrell, Roy, Kidney to Laval, and I would also send Slaf there, but it won't happen. Hughes and Gorton will not do it. They are all in with this big kid, for good or bad. The initial mistake was made, they won't turn back.
Please don't trade me. What did I do to get traded?:(
 

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Both Havrey-Pinard and Ylonen will have to clear waivers next season. So it's either you trade them or they will play in Montréal. There is no reason to trade them, both are showing good things, so the will play for the Habs next year. After that there will be a lot of competition with all the young guys we have and likely two top-15 picks this year. plus veterans and a surplus of young Ds that will end up in some trade in the next two years. So next year you send Farrell, Roy, Kidney to Laval, and I would also send Slaf there, but it won't happen. Hughes and Gorton will not do it. They are all in with this big kid, for good or bad. The initial mistake was made, they won't turn back.
Apparently RHP doesn't have to clear waivers next year
 

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You are right. I forgot he played his first season in Laval on an AHL contract. His case is the total opposite of the Farrell case and other NCAA guys that are able to burn years. RHP had no bargaining power since he was drafted at 19, played junior at 20. But hey, he is the perfect example that the real ones are able to find a way to make it to the NHL. He earns everything he has.

Apparently RHP doesn't have to clear waivers next year
 

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When salmons reproduce, they build their nest wherever they want, so some time they trash another salmon's nest in order to build their own. To prevent that, wildlife officer will close the last part of the river to wait for all the salmons to get there at the same time and nest beside each other.

With all the prospects coming up next year, close the access to the NHL and let them develop together while they clear the bad contracts. They can recall some of them during the year to give them a cup of coffee, but since were not going for the Cup, let them win the Calder together instead of just one getting it.
 

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Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson
Heineman-Dach-RHP
Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
Slafkovski-Evans-Armia
Pezzetta-Tierney-Ylonen

My God that lineup's an eyesore
Caufield-Suzuki-Anderson
Heineman-Dach-RHP
Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
Slafkovski-Evans-Armia
Pezzetta-Tierney-Ylonen

My God that lineup's an eyesore
You made that lineup from the available players.

Without any additions from outside the Habs' system, the lineup will, overall, suck, IMO, because this is a down year for the level of development from our prospects. Ideally, most players vying for an NHL job would be readier in 2024-2025, not 2023-2024.

Heineman, I think could be ready.

Need a better read on Farrell before confidently stating he will be ready for the NHL at the star tof 2023-2024.

The others would be a surprise.

Wishing for too big an influx of rookies is too unrealistic and not best for their development in the first place.

Heineman makes for two top lines next season. However, he might have better chemistry with Suzuki and Canfield than Anderson because he is more reliable defensively and has better IQ, IMHO, to make plays than Anderson. To be confirmed in training camp.

I'd prefer to see these two lines, especially because RHP had chemistry with Anderson before the big winger went down due to injury:

Caufield-Suzuki-Heineman
RHP-Dach-Anderson
Slafkovsky-Dvorak-Gallagher
Hoffman-Tierney-Armia

Evans, Ylonen, Pezzetta

RHP and Heineman are both lefties, but Heineman regularly has played RW throughout his playing days.

Ideally, Roy impresses the hell out of everyone and makes the team as an off side shot right winger, like Heineman. That would drop Anderson to play with Slafkovsky and I like that idea.

Caufield-Suzuki-Heineman
RHP/slafkovsky-Dach-Roy
Slafkovsky/RHP-Dvorak-Anderson
Hoffman-Tierney-Gallagher

Evans, Armia, Ylonen, Pezzetta
 

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When salmons reproduce, they build their nest wherever they want, so some time they trash another salmon's nest in order to build their own. To prevent that, wildlife officer will close the last part of the river to wait for all the salmons to get there at the same time and nest beside each other.

With all the prospects coming up next year, close the access to the NHL and let them develop together while they clear the bad contracts. They can recall some of them during the year to give them a cup of coffee, but since were not going for the Cup, let them win the Calder together instead of just one getting it.
I would let the following salmons play in Laval:

Mesar
Roy
Kidney
Farrell
Mailloux
Struble
Trudeau
(Slafkovsky)
(2023 Montreal 1st round pick; Fantill, Carlsson or Dvorsky - we won't get Bedard)

I would even consider starting Slafkovsky in Laval, as long as we can ice two decent top lines to help Suzuki and Caufield continue to progress with some support.

Only Heineman would be promoted to Montreal, IMO.

Caufield-Suzuki-Heineman
RHP-Dach-Anderson

I think we'd have two decent top-6 lines with those, decent enough for continued development from Caufield, Suzuki, Heineman, RHP and Dach, IMO.

Imagine reuniting a line of Slafkovsky - Dvorsky - Mesar if we end up 7th and draft Dvorsky?

If they prove to be dominant in Laval, I would play them as the Montreal third line after Christmas and use Dvorak as a 4th line C while he is on the trading block.

Our fourth line would likely become Armia/Hoffman - Dvorak - Gallagher
 

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From what I have seen so far, Ylonen is more of a bottom 6 player.
From what I've seen so far, Ylonen is not an impact NHLer. Too soft to replace a player like Byron, for example, despite having defensive awareness, good speed and a decent shot. Won't go in traffic. Perimeter player.

Agreed about Dvorak and Hoffman but not Evans, he's a great leader and formidable on the PK. The kind of veteran who will never hurt you, plays the right way while giving his 110% every game. Contract is cheap too. Cant ask for much more from a 4th line center.
Too often out of the lineup with injuries. IMO, as much as I like Evans, I don'Mt think his NHL career will be that much longer than it has been.
 
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I would let the following salmons play in Laval:

Mesar
Roy
Kidney
Farrell
Mailloux
Struble
Trudeau
(Slafkovsky)
(2023 Montreal 1st round pick; Fantill, Carlsson or Dvorsky - we won't get Bedard)

I would even consider starting Slafkovsky in Laval, as long as we can ice two decent top lines to help Suzuki and Caufield continue to progress with some support.

Only Heineman would be promoted to Montreal, IMO.

Caufield-Suzuki-Heineman
RHP-Dach-Anderson

I think we'd have two decent top-6 lines with those, decent enough for continued development from Caufield, Suzuki, Heineman, RHP and Dach, IMO.

Imagine reuniting a line of Slafkovsky - Dvorsky - Mesar if we end up 7th and draft Dvorsky?

If they prove to be dominant in Laval, I would play them as the Montreal third line after Christmas and use Dvorak as a 4th line C while he is on the trading block.

Our fourth line would likely become Armia/Hoffman - Dvorak - Gallagher
Laval is going to be insane next year, but I don't agree that we won't get Bedard
 
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