Prospect Info: Emil Heineman

[BaseballCoach]

5 goals in his first 5 ahl games.

That is encouraging when a player has NHL wheels, and not limited in that regard.

 

[26Mats]

Heineman was pushed for by our new Swedish scout Tommy Lehmann at the draft but the panthers picked him 4 spots before or he likely would have been picked by us in 2020.

I like the pick up of Condotta. While not flashy, he's been much better then I was expecting as I thought his teammate Owen Savory would have been the better find but was clearly wrong there (I struggle with goalies, always have) I think he gets NHL games in next season.

Richard is another solid pick up, he torched us last season so whoever saw that and said why not get him on our team, good job!

Same with Pitlick and Kovacevic. Interested to see more of Gurianov to see if they found something or not. Haven't seen or heard anything on Tierney.

Still don't know how we missed Tolvanen, and to a lesser extent Valimaki.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Still don't know how we missed Tolvsnen, and to a lesser extent Valimaki.

We were over saturated with players and healthy when Tolvanen passed through. There was no space for him. Maybe if he was waived later on when we were calling up players from Laval frequently.

 

[26Mats]

We were over saturated with players and healthy when Tolvanen passed through. There was no space for him. Maybe if he was waived later on when we were calling up players from Laval frequently.

We could have easily sent a useless vet to Laval.

 

[WeThreeKings]

We could have easily sent a useless vet to Laval.

Hughes doesn't conduct business this way.. this isn't a team that is going to treat its people like commodities that can be thrown around willy-nilly.

 

[26Mats]

Hughes doesn't conduct business this way.. this isn't a team that is going to treat its people like commodities that can be thrown around willy-nilly.

We were near the bottom of the standings. When that happens, expect changed. This isn't treating players like commodities. It's having them face the consequences of their play. If Toronto can send Wsyne Simmonds down, we can send one of our vets down.

 

[JustAHabFan]

He has'nt been bad for us centering the 4th line. If he accepts this role I would be tempted to bring it back at low cost for 1 year.

And yeah, Heineman, I really believe we have something there. A pretty nice package he is... I see top 6 potential much more than, say, Ylonen.

Heineman-Dach-RHP would be pretty good me think.

From what I have seen so far, Ylonen is more of a bottom 6 player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

We were near the bottom of the standings. When that happens, expect changed. This isn't treating players like commodities. It's having them face the consequences of their play. If Toronto can send Wsyne Simmonds down, we can send one of our vets down.

Toronto can send Wayne Simmonds down because Wayne Simmonds signed with the Leafs understanding that he could be exposed on waivers. He's a role player for them now and he had that expectation going in.

Hoffman and Armia signed with the previous regime to be contributors at the NHL level.

I understand that it is your belief that they can do that and some GMs can and will do that. That is not the way the HuGo management group operates. They know they need to cultivate a reputation around the league that this is a place that will work with you and commit to your development whether you are 21 or 35. Eventually circumstances happen like Pitlick going on waivers, but that was for internal players, not a waiver claim.

 

[26Mats]

Toronto can send Wayne Simmonds down because Wayne Simmonds signed with the Leafs understanding that he could be exposed on waivers. He's a role player for them now and he had that expectation going in.

Hoffman and Armia signed with the previous regime to be contributors at the NHL level.

I understand that it is your belief that they can do that and some GMs can and will do that. That is not the way the HuGo management group operates. They know they need to cultivate a reputation around the league that this is a place that will work with you and commit to your development whether you are 21 or 35. Eventually circumstances happen like Pitlick going on waivers, but that was for internal players, not a waiver claim.

We can agree to disagree. We've had this conversation before and were left on opposite sides. No sense in going through it again.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Toronto can send Wayne Simmonds down because Wayne Simmonds signed with the Leafs understanding that he could be exposed on waivers. He's a role player for them now and he had that expectation going in.

Hoffman and Armia signed with the previous regime to be contributors at the NHL level.

I understand that it is your belief that they can do that and some GMs can and will do that. That is not the way the HuGo management group operates. They know they need to cultivate a reputation around the league that this is a place that will work with you and commit to your development whether you are 21 or 35. Eventually circumstances happen like Pitlick going on waivers, but that was for internal players, not a waiver claim.

I get that, but when you end up not being a contributor, after multiple years and chances, you can't be surprised, shocked or angry if management wants to cut ties or demote you.

Every other job in the world, if you don't do your job and produce, you either get fired or demoted. Why should it be any different in hockey?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I get that, but when you end up not being a contributor, after multiple years and chances, you can't be surprised, shocked or angry if management wants to cut ties or demote you.

Every other job in the world, if you don't do your job and produce, you either get fired or demoted. Why should it be any different in hockey?

It's not that it is any different in hockey, just that this management group is very tuned in to how the organization has been perceived by other players. One of the things Gorton and Hughes are very intentional about is cultivating a reputation for an organization and destination where players want to play.

They aren't throwing a member of the organization on waivers just to claim someone external.

Pitlick saw waivers but he saw waivers because he was beat out of his spot by internal competition. That's a completely different message and circumstance. I don't doubt that the Habs organization would send Hoffman down or put him on waivers next year if he was beat out of his spot by other players, but they'd explore a trade and other options first.. they won't however claim someone off waivers with the explicit intent of throwing Hoffman on waivers.

 

[Destopcorner]

How many of those players will stick? Hoffman and Dvorak don’t fit, Evans is good but fragile and limited, I don’t see a reason to keep Tierney yet.

If everyone is healthy there will be competition for spots even with players leaving. Have to get guys healthy, though.

Agreed about Dvorak and Hoffman but not Evans, he's a great leader and formidable on the PK. The kind of veteran who will never hurt you, plays the right way while giving his 110% every game. Contract is cheap too. Cant ask for much more from a 4th line center.

 

[montreal]

It's exciting to see what Heineman is doing, as he's come in and already he's one of Laval's best players, that's exactly what you want to see and I wish we had seen that from Norlinder who looks way too relaxed from the start. It's not just the goals, which of course is great to see but it's how he's playing, as we know he has NHL speed, skating, strength, physical game. He's going to get those Leks comps because of his hard work and there is questions as to how much offensive upside he actually has (no one really knows this yet imo due to injuries and not getting the best situation in terms of development usage/TOI.

 

[Redux91]

5 goals in his first 5 ahl games.

I wish Drouin would explain to him there is another column next to the G column tho!
fr I'm pumped tho

 

[SlafySZN]

I wish Drouin would explain to him there is another column next to the G column tho!
fr I'm pumped tho

He got robbed by Simoneau from an assist, though

 

[RationalExpectations]

I wish Drouin would explain to him there is another column next to the G column tho!
fr I'm pumped tho

I wish Drouin never comes close to explaining anything about hockey to any of MTL prospects

 

[dcyhabs]

Agreed about Dvorak and Hoffman but not Evans, he's a great leader and formidable on the PK. The kind of veteran who will never hurt you, plays the right way while giving his 110% every game. Contract is cheap too. Cant ask for much more from a 4th line center.

He’s very good but fragile and not physical. He doesn’t hurt the team when he plays but you need a replacement available.

 

[LesHabitants]

6 goals 1 assist in his 6th AHL game. This guy might be somewhat legit.

 

[jfm133]

Heineman, Harris, Xhekaj, Guhle, Caufield are proof that all this "development" thing is totally blown out of proportion. It also shows the reason to keep Slaf this year was BS. There was no need to keep him in Montréal to look closely at his "development". All these players matured away from Montréal. All these players came close to ready for the NHL. Not ready to be stars from day one, but ready to play at that level. In the case of Heineman we still need to see him in the NHL, but he seems to be ready to make the jump next season. On the other hand, Farrell is clearly not ready for the NHL.

 

[Favster]

This guy clearly looks like an NHLer even outside of his amazing stats. All the small things in his game are there. Very exciting prospect.

 

[Trabdy2]

Heineman seemed to be probably the most NHL ready player to me that didn't make the team out of camp at the start of the year. I'm impressed by his performance but also not too surprised. He showed a lot in those exhibition games. It's awesome to see him producing and making a pretty big impact at the AHL level.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Heineman, Harris, Xhekaj, Guhle, Caufield are proof that all this "development" thing is totally blown out of proportion. It also shows the reason to keep Slaf this year was BS. There was no need to keep him in Montréal to look closely at his "development". All these players matured away from Montréal. All these players came close to ready for the NHL. Not ready to be stars from day one, but ready to play at that level. In the case of Heineman we still need to see him in the NHL, but he seems to be ready to make the jump next season. On the other hand, Farrell is clearly not ready for the NHL.

About Farrell, I think he's ready IQ and skills wise but I don't mind seeing him get more strength and weight in Laval next year. I'd play Heineman in MTL before him next year but of course it will all depend of their training camp.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Glad he’s been able to show and prove some to end the year. Should help him hit the ground running next year.

 

[Destopcorner]

What a pickup by Kent. Not many flaws in his game and can skate with the best of em. He's defensive proud like Lecks use to be with the same competitive attitude. I see him becoming the CC to Suzy for Dach, sometimes such complementary players were meant to play together. Should be called up already with Farell/Ylonen sent down.

 

[MasterD]

Heineman seemed to be probably the most NHL ready player to me that didn't make the team out of camp at the start of the year. I'm impressed by his performance but also not too surprised. He showed a lot in those exhibition games. It's awesome to see him producing and making a pretty big impact at the AHL level.

100%

He’s very good but fragile and not physical. He doesn’t hurt the team when he plays but you need a replacement available.

Right. I'm a huge Evans fan, but he's always injured. If we could find a good 4th line C who wins his faceoffs but can handle the physicality more, I'd move on.

Very unfortunate for him. Reminds me of Bournival in a way.