Value of: Elias Pettersson

[LemonSauceD]

Chytil
Schneider
Lafreniere
1st 2024

Pettersson
Garland

Add Othman or Perrault and I’d do it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Lol. It's facts, not trolling.

The trolling part is your lame ass proposal for Pettersson.

 

[Petey O]

EP: 18 points in 17 playoff games.
MT: 39 points in 47 playoff games.

B-but truculence.

 

[sting101]

Forsberg Ricci Hextall Duchesne Huffman Simon and 2 1st round picks

 

[macbowes]

Comparables would be Tkachuk and Eichel. Using Tkachuk as a template we end up with:

Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st lottery protected + C prospect

Huberdeau was a 1W rental (1 year remaining) on a good contract, and Weegar was a top 4 defenseman rental on a good contract. Considering rental prices for a 1W and a Top4D, it's safe to value Huberdeau and Weegar as lottery protected 1sts. Cole Schwindt was probably worth a 4th, maybe a 3rd.

So in terms of picks, we can expect a package of 3 lottery protected 1sts (or desired equivalent assets), and a 3rd/4th.

This would be the base price, and Pettersson is easily worth this price to whomever can pay. The trade becomes incredibly complicated once you factor in team needs and their goals with the trade. I seriously doubt VAN is going to want pure picks, so the trade gets tricky. Regardless, 3+ protected 1sts + sweetener is going to be the ask.

 

[McJedi]

Simple question. No retention. No contracts back or low balling because he's from Vancouver.

What is one of the best 5v5 producers in the league at his age and contract worth to your team?

Cale Makar + D Toews for EP + Quinn Hughes.

 

[McJedi]

Damn
Calgary’s 1st
Jordan Harris
Josh Anderson


Sooo generous

That is a lousy offer.

Rasmussen, ALJO, Combo of 2 1sts in the coming years. Bam!

I'll call Stevie, you call the one you guys enjoy over there in Vancouver. Deal?

Unless at least one of those picks was in the top 7, that’s a really weak offer.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Cale Makar + D Toews for EP + Quinn Hughes.

We could just keep Quinn, sign the local boy Devon Toews who will be an impending UFA when an EP trade is likely to occur, and trade EP for replacements up front.

 

[McJedi]

We could just keep Quinn, sign the local boy Devon Toews who will be an impending UFA when an EP trade is likely to occur, and trade EP for replacements up front.

If you have the $8.75mm per on a 7 year deal for Toews, I can’t argue your logic Peter.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If you have the $8.75mm per on a 7 year deal for Toews, I can’t argue your logic.

They would unless they’re taking $12M back in an EP trade.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Lol. It's facts, not trolling.

Look Mathew is an amazing player, nobody would say otherwise, but saying he is head and shoulders above one of the best two way players in the league, coming off a 102 point season, is f***ing lunacy, give your head a shake bud.

I would take Tkachuk in a flash over Pettersson. He's playoff warrior

And somehow EP isn't?

It's becoming more and more obvious, you've never watched EP play, either that or you don't understand even the basics of hockey, like, at all.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

EP: 18 points in 17 playoff games.
MT: 39 points in 47 playoff games.

Jack Eichel 26 points in 22 playoff games.

So, I guess Florida overpaid for Tkachuk and Vancouver is getting less than what Buffalo got for Eichel.

 

[McJedi]

They would unless they’re taking $12M back in an EP trade.

You’ll dump Kuzmenko for a high draft pick to free up cap space next summer.

 

[Peter Griffin]

You’ll dump Kuzmenko for a high draft pick to free up cap space next summer.

Why? They’ll have upwards of $36M in capspace next summer with EP and Hronek as the only notable RFA.

 

[VaporTrail]

Calgary offers everything they got in the Tkachuk trade

 

[Peter Griffin]

Jack Eichel 26 points in 22 playoff games.

So, I guess Florida overpaid for Tkachuk and Vancouver is getting less than what Buffalo got for Eichel.

Now do before he was traded, what actually matters.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Now do before he was traded, what actually matters.

I thought we could cherry puck stats to prove a point ?

I guess I should have used Tkachuks recent 24 points in 20 games.

Both (Pettersson and Tkachuk) are amazing players, but trying to use Pettersson playing half as many playoff games (not his fault, but still) to make a point is weak.

 

[cfj007]

Cale Makar + D Toews for EP + Quinn Hughes.

Makar/Johansen for EP/Myers

 

[Warh1ppy]

Cale Makar + D Toews for EP + Quinn Hughes.

To be honest, if there was a comparable forward in it I'd strongly consider it.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I thought we could cherry puck stats to prove a point ?

I guess I should have used Tkachuks recent 24 points in 20 games.

Both (Pettersson and Tkachuk) are amazing players, but trying to use Pettersson playin half as many playoff games (not his fault, but still) to make a point is weak.

I think the point was that both Tkachuk and EP have had great individual success in the postseason, Tkachuk being a “playoff warrior” comment. You bringing up Eichel was both kinda pointless and bizarre to be honest.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Jack Eichel 26 points in 22 playoff games.

So, I guess Florida overpaid for Tkachuk and Vancouver is getting less than what Buffalo got for Eichel.

I think the point was that both Tkachuk and EP have had great individual success in the postseason, Tkachuk being a “playoff warrior” comment. You bringing up Eichel was both kinda pointless and bizarre to be honest.

Don't you love when people jump into conversations with no clue of what's actually going on to make a point that did not need to be made?...........

 

[Breakers]

Calgary offers everything they got in the Tkachuk trade

That has to be the most untradable contract in the league maybe

$61 million in signing bonuses , and some of them are back loaded at 38 years old.

 

[stevo61]

Dubois wanted out and forced it with his play and Jarmo landed Laine+Roslovic

Jones wasnt going to resign and had a couple teams he would sign with and along with a late 1st got 2 picks (Jiricek, Sillinger), Boqvist (former 8th overall pick) and a 2nd.

People (person) are trying to pretend a 100 point young 2way center wouldnt get at minimum these deals?

Calgary chose a more win now trade and picked up a big producing winger who is due to bounce back and a solid top pair defenseman on a good deal. Should they have gone a more futures deal? Yeah but they didnt give Tkachuk away even if the immediate payoff hasnt been good

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I thought we could cherry puck stats to prove a point ?

I guess I should have used Tkachuks recent 24 points in 20 games.

Both (Pettersson and Tkachuk) are amazing players, but trying to use Pettersson playing half as many playoff games (not his fault, but still) to make a point is weak.

You're kind of missing the point though. It wasn't to insinuate the Tkachuk wasn't a good playoff performer or that Pettersson was necessarily better but to refute the notion Tkachuk is a "playoff warrior," thus a much more valuable player... despite having less overall production than Pettersson.

Basically, they're both incredibly talented players and the person who started this quote chain is comically and hilariously undervaluing Pettersson. I mean, that was their third attempt to shift goalposts because they kept getting dunked on so hard.

 

[DimitriL07]

Bruh Jordan Harris? lol