Value of: Elias Pettersson

HuGort

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Simple question. No retention. No contracts back or low balling because he's from Vancouver.

What is one of the best 5v5 producers in the league at his age and contract worth to your team?
He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
 

Farmboy Patty

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The Poll had them at just over 50%, if that's near unanimous than I guess you're right. These things are going to be skewed by a simple factor:

People are just absolutely unwilling to believe that most player decline near 30

WPG got nothing of any note for PLD. Something around 2 2nds in total value.

Teams are going to offer good things for Petterson, but they're not going to do things like Johnson & Jiricek. Cap is too valuable.

Vancouver has no cap space, they can't take more than 2M back. How many teams do you see with the ability to add this contract where he'd want to play? The pool they have to work with isn't that large.

There are only 5 teams with sufficient cap space: Detroit, Nashville, Buffalo, Chicago, Anaheim.

Detroit - Can't sign him because their cap would implode next year. They're not really a contender but they'd be a playoff team with him.
Nashville - They could, they don't have high end prospects. Also probably not a contender
Buffalo - They could, they have high end prospects. Possibly a contender with him certainly a playoff team with him. How do they afford him next year?
Chicago - High end prospects, not sure this move fits where they are in their rebuild. Probably not a contender right away. It's an intriguing landing spot.
Anaheim - They could certainly use everything he brings to the table, and they have prospects glare. But they're not really a contender or even a playoff certainty

Nashville can't make a suitable package, Detroit can't resign him; and it seems unlikely he'd go to Anaheim. You're left with Buffalo/Chicago.

If you want to squint at it and say Columbus finds someone to eat cap maybe they squeak into the conversation. They certainly can fit him next year.
The jury is out on how well WPG did in the PLD trade, but it’s way too early to tell. I like the pieces they got. For me it seems to be a win-win situation for both parties, when Chevy had very few trading partners and still did well IMO.
 

EquivalentStay

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He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
You think you can get Elias Pettersson for a first (not even your own), Harris and a mid line winger? I'm speechless.
 

Qwijibo

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He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
Do.you HAVE to make Montreal fans look bad? Come on man. Pettersson is a young, elite player. Even if he's decided to force his way out of yown Vancouver is getting a much better return than this.
 
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Ita

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He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
Nice, so you are willing to offer a bunch of garbage for EP? Where should the Canucks sign up?
 

Detroit Knights

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Nylander is a very good player but he needs to stop being offered for EP. Canucks needs are D and centres. Not a pending UFA winger who will command big $. Even if you added to Nylander, he’d obviously be the main piece. It doesn’t work.

Also, nothing that Pettersson said is that different from past comments. Guy wants to win and has been pretty consistent in his statements.

Edit: he’s also an RFA, so his ability to bigger off somewhere else in the near term isn’t the best.
Rasmussen, ALJO, Combo of 2 1sts in the coming years. Bam!

I'll call Stevie, you call the one you guys enjoy over there in Vancouver. Deal?
 

AvroArrow

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He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
Petterson plays C, is a legitimate elite 2 way C. He could get more than Tkachuk just because of the position he plays.
 

HABitual Fan

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I think much depends on the path Vancouver is going down by trading him. If it is a retool like Winnipeg with PLD, Montreal doesn't have the pieces to offer. If it signals the start of a rebuild, than I would offer the Calgary 1st and Montreal's 1st picks in '25 and '26 provided he agrees to a new contract prior to the deal. If Vancouver is willing to take salary back, other assets could be added.
 

Nucklehead Supreme

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Lol. Tkachuk head and shoulders the better player. Signed to a cheaper contract also.
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Warh1ppy

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He won't return more than Tkachuk. Like to see Montreal make an offer here. Tkachuk went for a late first, a second pairing d-man and 30 year old winger with huge contract.

We could give you Calgary first in '25, Harris and one of our mid line wingers? Not as offensive as Huberdeau but team friendly contract.
Only if Vancouver can give you a 2026 3rd, Tyler Myers and Tanner Pearson for Slafkovsky.

Tanner pearson has been more productive in his career than Slafkovsky and both are equally as healthy as each other.

or....is this somehow different?
 
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HuGort

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Only if Vancouver can give you a 2026 3rd, Tyler Myers and Tanner Pearson for Slafkovsky.

Tanner pearson has been more productive in his career than Slafkovsky and both are equally as healthy as each other.

or....is this somehow different?
Slaf doesnt want out. Also not a pending free agent.

If he was, yeah we get gouged on him
 

Warh1ppy

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Lol. Tkachuk head and shoulders the better player. Signed to a cheaper contract also.
Based on what?

Pettersson has the better production and defensive numbers while playing on a lesser team. He's a year ish younger than Tkachuk as well. Like there's no comparison between the Flames and Canucks from 2018/2019 through 2021/2022 and the 2022/2023 Panthers.

Sorry mate, opinions don't mean much when weighed against basic numbers
 

HuGort

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Based on what?

Pettersson has the better production and defensive numbers while playing on a lesser team. He's a year ish younger than Tkachuk as well. Like there's no comparison between the Flames and Canucks from 2018/2019 through 2021/2022 and the 2022/2023 Panthers.

Sorry mate, opinions don't mean much when weighed against basic numbers
I would take Tkachuk in a flash over Pettersson. He's playoff warrior
 

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