Elias Pettersson vs Tim Stützle

[Bouboumaster]

Okay but are you guys being genuine ? Cause I know you’re a Habs fan and a Leafs fan respectively , and sometimes biased views are formed. I’m not calling you guys biased, I’m just kindly asking for the authenticity of the post.

For what it’s worth if I truly felt like you guys were biased ,I would have not even bothered with my request


Kindly regards,

Coffee

I'm super biased, I admit it, but at the same time, Petterson has been better than Stützle at pretty much every steps IMO

Can Stützle overcome him at one point? Maybe.
But if I'm a GM, in 2024, and I have to pick one of them, the body of work of Petey is simply better. AND he's also 25 years old, so, still super young

 

[Coffee]

I'm super biased, I admit it, but at the same time, Petterson has been better than Stützle at pretty much every steps IMO

Can Stützle overcome him at one point? Maybe.
But if I'm a GM, in 2024, and I have to pick one of them, the body of work of Petey is simply better. AND he's also 25 years old, so, still super young

Fair points

 

[biturbo19]

Pettersson still not looking dialed in.. time to panic for Vancouver?

Panic? Why?

I mean, it is what it is. Panic isn't going to do anything...and frankly, there's not that much to even conceivably "panic" about. Just wait for him to come back around again. Ideally sooner...rather than later. Even Petey when he's off and saddled with underwhelming or worse wingers, is still more or less a PPG Top-6 Center. It's just frustrating because he's obviously capable of more. It just only seems to happen...when he feels like it.

Eventually he'll feel inspired again, i'm sure. More likely than not though, this is just...who Pettersson is. Unless he has some sort of great revelation that changes him greatly, he's probably going to spend his career being intermittently a lot less good than he's capable of being. Probably just have to live with that and ride the highs when he is firing on all cylinders and totally engaged.

 

[Xspyrit]

I'm super biased, I admit it, but at the same time, Petterson has been better than Stützle at pretty much every steps IMO

Can Stützle overcome him at one point? Maybe.
But if I'm a GM, in 2024, and I have to pick one of them, the body of work of Petey is simply better. AND he's also 25 years old, so, still super young

What do you mean?

Sttuzle is not even 23 y/o yet and has 247 pts before this season. Pettersson had 153 NHL pts at that age

Stutzle had 90 pts in his 20 y/o season, something that has been very rare the past 30 years. He regressed last season but played injured all year. We'll see what he's made off this year.

Pettersson is a bit more than 3 years older and has 163 more points in career. If he stays healthy, Stutzle could eclipse that by the time he turns 26

 

[wetcoast]

What do you mean?

Sttuzle is not even 23 y/o yet and has 247 pts before this season. Pettersson had 153 NHL pts at that age

Stutzle had 90 pts in his 20 y/o season, something that has been very rare the past 30 years. He regressed last season but played injured all year. We'll see what he's made off this year.

Pettersson is a bit more than 3 years older and has 163 more points in career. If he stays healthy, Stutzle could eclipse by the time he turns 26

That's great but I think the question is who would you rather have going forward and for me it's EP40 even with the contract and I like Stutzle but he has to actually do that and I'm not sure that he ever will.

 

[Regal]

What do you mean?

Sttuzle is not even 23 y/o yet and has 247 pts before this season. Pettersson had 153 NHL pts at that age

Stutzle had 90 pts in his 20 y/o season, something that has been very rare the past 30 years. He regressed last season but played injured all year. We'll see what he's made off this year.

Pettersson is a bit more than 3 years older and has 163 more points in career. If he stays healthy, Stutzle could eclipse by the time he turns 26

I think the poster is suggesting that Pettersson has been better when comparing years straight up rather than at similar developments, so would take the more proven player. Ie, Stutzle might have the potential to surpass him but he’d take Pettersson until proven otherwise.

That said, the difference in their D+3 seasons is exaggerated by the Covid shutdown and league scoring rising. Both finished 20th in league scoring and Stutzle was only 6 point ahead in adjusted numbers (85 to 79).

Although Pettersson is pissing me off to the point where I’d probably make this trade easily at this point.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Going with upside of Stützle. Both are very good. But the trajectory of Stützle seems higher.

 

[Coffee]

What do you mean?

Sttuzle is not even 23 y/o yet and has 247 pts before this season. Pettersson had 153 NHL pts at that age

Stutzle had 90 pts in his 20 y/o season, something that has been very rare the past 30 years. He regressed last season but played injured all year. We'll see what he's made off this year.

Pettersson is a bit more than 3 years older and has 163 more points in career. If he stays healthy, Stutzle could eclipse by the time he turns 26

Hey brother you aren’t being sincere.

Pettersson started at 19 and Stutzle started at 18.

Just basing off your template,

Pettersson and Stutzle GP and Point up until their age 21 season

Pettersson also missed time from injury and covid season



Pettersson
Games : 165
Points : 153

Stutzle
Games : 285
Points : 247


Both are great players and can definitely be compared , but let’s stay honest for our own good and the sake of a real argument

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hey brother you aren’t being sincere.

Pettersson started at 19 and Stutzle started at 18.

Just basing off your template,

Pettersson and Stutzle GP and Point up until their age 21 season

Pettersson also missed time from injury and covid season



Pettersson
Games : 165
Points : 153

Stutzle
Games : 285
Points : 247


Both are great players and can definitely be compared , but let’s stay honest for our own good and the sake of a real argument

Stutzle was 19, his birthday was his first NHL game if I recall, in the 56 game Covid season that started in January.

He would of been 18 if usual October start date. However the draft wasn’t until October that year.

 

[rypper]

I think Pettersson in a funk still scores as much as Stutzle and brings a better 2 way game.

 

[NyQuil]

I think Pettersson in a funk still scores as much as Stutzle and brings a better 2 way game.

Well, since starting the season healthy, Stutzle has 6 points in 3 games.

How is funky EP doing?

 

[Akrapovince]

Well, since starting the season healthy, Stutzle has 6 points in 3 games.

How is funky EP doing?

6 points in 3 games and he hasn’t looked like himself this season.

Surprised he only walked away from this game with 3 points.

Petterson has the ability to score 10 in his next three whenever he decides to wake up though.

 

[NyQuil]

Pettersson has the ability to score 10 in his next three

So does Stutzle.

 

[rypper]

Well, since starting the season healthy, Stutzle has 6 points in 3 games.

How is funky EP doing?

At the end of the year, if Pettersson doesn't shake the funk he'll still wind up scoring at Stutzle's level. If he shakes it, he'll have more.

 

[swiftwin]

Basically a tie, but once you factor age and contact, you gotta give the edge to Stutzle.

 

[Regal]

At the end of the year, if Pettersson doesn't shake the funk he'll still wind up scoring at Stutzle's level. If he shakes it, he'll have more.

If he doesn’t shake it we might be looking at a 60 something point year.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

how are vancouver fans shitting so hard on pettersson on the main board thread but over here he is winning lol.

 

[Phrasing]

how are vancouver fans shitting so hard on pettersson on the main board thread but over here he is winning lol.

It’s an old poll. Also the poll doesn’t reflect the magnitude of difference, only a binary preference.

 

[zenator]

Dude with 12 points in his last 27 games needs to start earning his $11.6 million.

 

[Korpse]

At the end of the year, if Pettersson doesn't shake the funk he'll still wind up scoring at Stutzle's level. If he shakes it, he'll have more.

I guess it depends what you think Stutzle's level is. He's played 4 seasons with less than 300, he likely hasn't reached his offensive peak yet. For instance Pettersson had not broke PPG in his first 4 seasons, he didn't until his 5th season in the league.

 

[rypper]

I guess it depends what you think Stutzle's level is. He's played 4 seasons with less than 300, he likely hasn't reached his offensive peak yet. For instance Pettersson had not broke PPG in his first 4 seasons, he didn't until his 5th season in the league.

While that's true, it's not like he was far off prior to doing it.

66 in 71.
66 in 68.
21 in 26.

I think if he gets his head right, he can be a perennial 100+ point player.

 

[Coffee]

While that's true, it's not like he was far off prior to doing it.

66 in 71.
66 in 68.
21 in 26.

I think if he gets his head right, he can be a perennial 100+ point player.

You’re just bumping this because Pettersson looks alive tonight against the Panthers

 

[rypper]

You’re just bumping this because Pettersson looks alive tonight against the Panthers

I'm replying to a poster that replied to me.

 

[Coffee]

I'm replying to a poster that replied to me.

Oh

 

[Regal]

While that's true, it's not like he was far off prior to doing it.

66 in 71.
66 in 68.
21 in 26.

I think if he gets his head right, he can be a perennial 100+ point player.

Lower scoring in those seasons as well.