Player Discussion Elias Pettersson - Please, Be Civil
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Because that is the exact timeline of when he said he was injured and his production fell off? What is your theory?
He had a minor wrist injury. Your theory is that this minor wrist injury caused him to skate poorly?
Look, I've said it a million times, but I am not claiming to definitively know. But anyone that thinks this is cut and dry and that an injury must be causing him to play poorly isn't looking at the evidence closely.
EDIT: To clarify, I am talking about his previous slump that was half a year long or so, not this current slump that began last year.
Bobby9
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So now EP and Tocchet aren’t getting along? What a diva this dude is
https://x.com/sekeresandprice/status/1869424523533320631?s=46
https://x.com/sekeresandprice/status/1869424523533320631?s=46
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Maybe don't take a clip and state it's a fact and call the player a diva. But you do you
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None of the local media guy has any reliable source on this team ever since JR took over
They only get stuff that the management want them to know
Example? JT Miller absence
They only get stuff that the management want them to know
Example? JT Miller absence
It couldn’t be like Hronek who had a shoulder surgery than got knee surgery? Or he’ll for all we know he could have had tendinitis then too and needed a rest…. And yes a wrist injury could theoretically keep him off skates in ways for him to be behind on his training.
Sure, any player playing poorly at any time could have an injury to excuse his performance. But there isn’t any evidence of that and it seems far fetched and grasping at straws to me.
Except there is two known injuries…
Also you took the wrong part of my point, but whatever.
But not an injury that explains his poor skating in the first slump.
What’s your point then? I thought you brought up Hronek to suggest that Pettersson, during his first slump, may have had a lower body injury in addition to the wrist injury. And my point is that any player at any time may have an injury, and that it comes off as grasping at straws when you suggest there is some phantom injury that no one knew of or reported on.
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This argument about ancient history of EP only exists because literally no one remembers what was happening several years ago. It's 100% narrative.
Luckily we don't need to go back to the history of Charlemagne's reign to examine what's wrong with EP when we can look at what's happening game to game right now.
It's not a lack of effort or confidence or likes on instagram that makes EP skate like this and we don't need to review the Magna Carta or find out who built the pyramids to see this:
Luckily we don't need to go back to the history of Charlemagne's reign to examine what's wrong with EP when we can look at what's happening game to game right now.
It's not a lack of effort or confidence or likes on instagram that makes EP skate like this and we don't need to review the Magna Carta or find out who built the pyramids to see this:
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Let's say Pettersson is injured.
What exactly are we supposed to expect here?
That he just continues to play through injury, very clearly not on the level that he's shown before?
For how long exactly? For the rest of his career?
We just accept that this is his new norm?
Or alternatively, are we expecting him to get better? When? How? Does he need time to "play through" the injury and it will eventually go away? Does he need time off? Does he need surgery?
He signed for 93 million dollars. The organization has made a significant investment in him. I find it difficult to believe that nobody has asked these questions already.
If he was injured, surely they'd sit him out, get him surgery or at the very least announce publicly that he's playing through something and will get better over time.
So either the organization is legitimately incompetent, or he's not injured.
And frankly, whether he's injured or not isn't important, what's important is how does he get back to normal?
If he's injured, what's the path back to normal?
If he's not injured, what's the path back to normal?
Or is his current play over the past 70 games the new normal?
What exactly are we supposed to expect here?
That he just continues to play through injury, very clearly not on the level that he's shown before?
For how long exactly? For the rest of his career?
We just accept that this is his new norm?
Or alternatively, are we expecting him to get better? When? How? Does he need time to "play through" the injury and it will eventually go away? Does he need time off? Does he need surgery?
He signed for 93 million dollars. The organization has made a significant investment in him. I find it difficult to believe that nobody has asked these questions already.
If he was injured, surely they'd sit him out, get him surgery or at the very least announce publicly that he's playing through something and will get better over time.
So either the organization is legitimately incompetent, or he's not injured.
And frankly, whether he's injured or not isn't important, what's important is how does he get back to normal?
If he's injured, what's the path back to normal?
If he's not injured, what's the path back to normal?
Or is his current play over the past 70 games the new normal?
It was one of many things I said… to show that there is a lot of ways a wrist injury could have effected his skating, and or been more of an injury than you just claiming it’s a minor injury with no evidence.
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He’s a very talent extremely streaky player. There is no injury. It’s made up from posters. When he’s on fire he is pretty much a top 10 player. Issue is when he’s not it’s long long stretches of sub par play.
It’s a cycle at this point. You just hope at some point over the next decade he goes on a heater during the playoffs. It happens every 8-10 months.
Certainly not a 11.6M dollar player. That requires consistency he is incapable of.
An 11.6M forward is: A constant threat to score every game. Elevates his game when the team requires. Shows consistency of showing up when needed. Performs in the playoffs. Plays physically. That is not who EP40 is.
He is an over paid RNH. A good and occasionally great player but a support player and should be paid around 7 M
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mriswith
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We don't have access to enough info to know any answers to this. If he's permanently injured then trade him, if he's not then don't. Any sort of prognosis is impossible.
Whether the org is incompetent or not with how they deal with injured players was already answered by how utterly atrociously they handled Mikheyev.
