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Value of: Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin at the draft

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If Blues can free up some cap space, could absolutely see them in on Hanifin, would've move our 1st though, the late 1sts and other assets could be on the table.
 
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bleedblue1223 said:
If Blues can free up some cap space, could absolutely see them in on Hanifin, would've move our 1st though, the late 1sts and other assets could be on the table.
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in the summer even after signing RFAs, not many teams are going to have cap space. After filling out St. Louis 23 man with $1M contracts..st Louis has maybe $2M in space.

it will be like last summer where 5 teams have about $10M+, a few others have $3-5M in space and the rest are $2M or less or over the cap
 
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Djp said:
in the summer even after signing RFAs, not many teams are going to have cap space. After filling out St. Louis 23 man with $1M contracts..st Louis has maybe $2M in space.

it will be like last summer where 5 teams have about $10M+, a few others have $3-5M in space and the rest are $2M or less or over the cap
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We'll have about $4M for our final roster spot that is likely to be a #3 C. Our interest in Hanifin would be dependent on moving out someone like Krug or Scandella because of our somewhat roster jam defenseman, but we'd have the cap space to make a deal happen.
 

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If they get traded it will be for a retool trade with another team looking for a change like the one that brought them in. Still can’t see the Flames tearing it down.

Carolina was apparently interested in Lindholm and Toffoli. Would be funny to keep that trade tree going. Not sure if the Canes have any younger players they’d want to trade for them though.
 
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I am definitely open to seeing the market on Hanafin. I think he's taken a step back this year and would be interested in getting value back for him. Lindholm needs to be re-signed.
 
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bleedblue1223 said:
If Blues can free up some cap space, could absolutely see them in on Hanifin, would've move our 1st though, the late 1sts and other assets could be on the table.
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I'd consider Hanafin for something around the Rangers 1st IF Kylington is returning
 
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The Canucks are stupid enough to trade their top7 pick for two pending UFAs.

VAN 1st + Boeser + OEL for Hanifin + Lindholm?
 

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604 said:
The Canucks are stupid enough to trade their top7 pick for two pending UFAs.

VAN 1st + Boeser + OEL for Hanifin + Lindholm?
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I’d do that if the Flames are tearing it down but they won’t lol
 
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Would be curious what the Flames could get for this package at the draft. Lots of teams would be inquiring as both are on low cap hits. Maybe trade up for a top 5 overall?
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No team picking 5th overall will want to give up extremely high picks for UFAs, especially in a draft where almost the entire top 5-6 are viewed as franchise corner stones. IF you wanted to consider a trade like this, it’d be either to a very recently bad team that just turned the corner (Buffalo, Ottawa) or a team that just won the rights to Bedard who thinks they can immediately turn the corner next season (Detroit, Columbus) and you get some blue chip prospects back that are a few years away plus future picks in exchange. Regardless, you don’t get anywhere the value of a top line centre and a still youngish top 4 D if they get traded together. Calgary would be best off running it back next season, and if it doesn’t work, see how much a contender would pony up for a lower tier 1C at 2.4 million (or 1.2 million at double retention), and same for Hanifin akin to what St. Louis did this year.
604 said:
The Canucks are stupid enough to trade their top7 pick for two pending UFAs.

VAN 1st + Boeser + OEL for Hanifin + Lindholm?
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If Calgary traded Lindholm at next years deadline 50% retained and got that as a return I’d be pissed, let alone a for both for a year. The 1st is obviously spectacular but OEL and Boeser wipe out most of its value, that’s 13 million for the next 2-4 years after this one gone.
 

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Bluejackets might want Lindholm
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The Jackets would want Hanifin too. Two players they could really use. It's the whole one-year-from-UFA thing that makes it impossible, at least for the high 1st. Even extended, the value for older guys on UFA deals isn't worth it.

Long term it's tough because these guys are going to be paid handsomely in their 30s and the Jackets window isn't open yet, not until they're old. Lindholm's cap hit is not going to be a great fit then when the Jackets have young centers like Kent Johnson and maybe a top pick from this year. I think there's more of a need for Hanifin long term and he's a bit younger so I get that, again just not for a high 1st.

If the Flames would shop Mikael Backlund I'd be very curious about that. He's still playing at a very high level and is at an age where he might be willing to sign a 3 year deal.
 
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