Player Discussion: Ehlers

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The lack of opportunity was a coaching error. Peeps on this board had to yell and scream to get him on the first power play......Hmmm.
Which I have pointed out in the past, but, opportunity doesn’t necessarily mean results. He would have had more points and better results. No one is arguing with that. I’m arguing with the assumption he’s have better results than Connor or that he’d get paid more than Connor. Opportunities don’t always equal results. Same with injuries you could argue if he stayed healthier he’d have 20 more points, which is a stretch. But, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say he’d have more points. That’s why I’m opposed to ppg it’s not what you could have done, it’s what you do.
 
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With the cap taking some big jumps, it will be interesting to see who around the league signs first and sort of sets the market.
With the cap also projected to rise pretty significantly over a few years, I wonder how Agents and GMs will use that for valuations. IOW, if they are projecting 95.5 next year, 104 in 2026/2027, and 113.5 in 2027/2028, will an agent try and use a higher rate in the future against the cap hit %? Will they look to use a blend?

IOW, Chevy could say, in his last contract Ehlers was 6.8% of the cap. We're prepared to go to 8% (just using this as an example) based on 95.5 which would be 7.64.

And the agent is likely to say, no bloody way we're using a 95.5 cap valuation. We'll agree to the 8%, but on a 105M cap which would be 8.4.

For reference Scheifele just recently signed at a cap % of 9.7, so there's no way Ehlers is going to get that %. IMO, I think 8 to 8.5% is the max. It just depends on what cap $ they use. 8.5*95.5 = 8.12. 8.5*113.5 = 9.65.

I know people like to look at the actual salary number and say a player like Ehlers shouldn't make more $ than Scheifele. And I agree that he's not as valuable and wouldn't get the same if they signed at the same time. But when time moves on, and the cap jumps this much, I don't think there is a lot you can do as I think agents will look to the cap % more than the absolute $ number.
 
Just a note that Ehlers hasn't averaged 16 minutes or more this season or the last 2.
here's the lowest TOI/GP of 1PPG players in a season (min 40. gp, since 2005)
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I wouldn't be surprised if Chevy announces a Ehlers signing in the 2 week break because now Chevy knows what kind of money he is working with. February 7th is our last game until February 22nd , that just sucks if you ask me. :mad:
 
I really hope him not having a contract plays out like Scheif and Helle, and not that he really does want to leave regardless of money.

If we just can’t afford him, then so be it. But with the cap going up I’d hope that’s not an issue.

It may work in Chevy's favor that the Jets are so good this year. Players are of course attracted and more likely to sign with successful teams. Although if we win the SC, everyone on the team's price goes up, so that could be a downside. But if that happens, I'll be too busy partying to care.
I wouldn’t care until I start sobering up by mid October.
 
I get the feeling Nik is interested in a new team - and I think it's for the best for both sides.

I don't think his next contract will be a good value, and I think we have a couple players primed to work their way into his spot.

I love Nik and I hope I'm wrong but I really think he'll be an own rental.
 
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I get the feeling Nik is interested in a new team - and I think it's for the best for both sides.

I don't think his next contract will be a good value, and I think we have a couple players primed to work their way into his spot.

I love Nik and I hope I'm wrong but I really think he'll be an own rental.
I think the fact we are playing so well might help Ehlers sign but if he doesn't want to sign with a team this good then i am totally ok with him leaving. If he doesn't sign winning the Cup isn't the most important thing then and i would be ok with him moving on . If this is the case i would like to see Chevy trade him for something though but that's just me.
 
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Connor probably wishes they paid for pace like a lot of ppl have argued for ehlers as he was pacing for a 100 a few games later not so much. If he got injured and was paid for pace he probably gets at least another 2 mil.
 

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