Player Discussion: Ehlers

[Huffer]

Wrap Ehlers up in a trade for Chabot or Jiricek.

I'd be interested in Jiricek, but have no interest in using Ehlers to get Chabot.

 

[10Ducky10]

I'd be interested in Jiricek, but have no interest in using Ehlers to get Chabot.

Injury history?

 

[ps241]

I think Nik Ehlers trade will be similar to the return the Wild got for Kevin Fiala (Brock Faber and 1st round pick). Hopefully we can get a defensemen like the kid the Wild got!

f*** did the Wild pull off a miracle on that one. We should be so lucky. I really like Fiala but the Wild got back a high end RHD just starting his career.

I don’t see the Jets trading for futures with both McG and Ehlers though.

 

[Huffer]

Injury history?

Partly. The reality for me is that Chabot is not worth his 8M cap hit and he's also not playing a position we desperately need, and even if LHD was a need, his playstyle isn't one we need at this time either.

He's an offensive LHD that plays poor defense. His contract is bad value IMO. And if the Jets are using one of their 2 most valuable trade chips at the moment (Ehlers or McGroarty) on something, we should be targeting things we need. C's, RHDs that can play defense, and or picks and prospects that can either be used, or used as currency to get what we need.

It's also why I don't understand any of our writers also throwing Chychrun out there in regards to Ehlers. If we move Ehlers, we need to do it to hopefully improve or solve a problem. Chychrun only has 1 year left like Ehlers so we're in the same boat. He's also a lefty but can play on the right, but he's also bad defensively. And we currently have Pionk and Schmidts contracts. It just doesn't make sense to me to use your valuable trade chips to not try to potentially improve holes on the team.

 

[robertocarlos]

Hasn't been good in the playoffs, trade him. Who else hasn't been good in the playoffs? Trade them too.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Hasn't been good in the playoffs, trade him. Who else hasn't been good in the playoffs? Trade them too.

So we're trading almost everyone?

 

[surixon]

Partly. The reality for me is that Chabot is not worth his 8M cap hit and he's also not playing a position we desperately need, and even if LHD was a need, his playstyle isn't one we need at this time either.

He's an offensive LHD that plays poor defense. His contract is bad value IMO. And if the Jets are using one of their 2 most valuable trade chips at the moment (Ehlers or McGroarty) on something, we should be targeting things we need. C's, RHDs that can play defense, and or picks and prospects that can either be used, or used as currency to get what we need.

It's also why I don't understand any of our writers also throwing Chychrun out there in regards to Ehlers. If we move Ehlers, we need to do it to hopefully improve or solve a problem. Chychrun only has 1 year left like Ehlers so we're in the same boat. He's also a lefty but can play on the right, but he's also bad defensively. And we currently have Pionk and Schmidts contracts. It just doesn't make sense to me to use your valuable trade chips to not try to potentially improve holes on the team.

Interesting. I never pegged him as bad defensively. He's not amazing by any means but I'd say he's atleast average. I think we defitely could use a high end dmen to anchor our second pairing.

 

[DRW204]

Hasn't been good in the playoffs, trade him. Who else hasn't been good in the playoffs? Trade them too.

Him and Helle have been offenders #1 and #2 of garbage recent playoff performance compared to their regular season standards.

Bu bu but the entire team sucked.... No one has a had a drop off as hard as these two, who commonly play above the quality of the team or linemates in the regular season.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Ehlers is a great regular season forward. His speed and skill makes defenders have to back off, enabling zone entries with puck possession. He has a great shot. He makes great head's up passes. His highlight reel goals are fun to watch. And he draws a lot of penalties.

He disappears in the postseason. We all wanted that to change, it doesn't. He makes great head's up passes, but also spectacularly bad no look passes / drop passes / passes to some imaginary friend that end up going the other way. Next to the pair of Zamboni's, nothing has cleaned more ice in the Canada Life Centre than Nik Ehler's Jets jerseys. It is hard for a lot of linemates to play with Ehlers because, frankly, no one but him has any idea what he is doing or what he will do when he has the puck.

I don't know how the Jets would replace Ehlers. It is very difficult to find and replace the positive aspects of his game in another single player. At the same time if this team wants to win post season hockey, a guy like Nik doesn't help a lot.

IDK what they are going to do. I would understand if they keep him. I would understand if they move him.

 

[Crocket]

Rutger and Stanley for Seider.

 

[gojetsgo]

Rutger and Stanley for

sir this is an arby's

 

[jetsforever]

Rutger and Stanley for

Rutger and Stanley for Ehlers, who says no?

 

[Daximus]

Rutger and Stanley for Ehlers, who says no?

All 3?

 

[ps241]

Hasn't been good in the playoffs, trade him. Who else hasn't been good in the playoffs? Trade them too.

That would be the most of the team. I’m not joking, collectively we have been a disaster in the playoffs with this core. Not trying to make excuses for Nik in the playoffs. He hasn’t been good enough but it’s a much bigger issue than Nik.

 

[Daximus]

That would be the most of the team. I’m not joking, collectively we have been a disaster in the playoffs with this core. Not trying to make excuses for Nik in the playoffs. He hasn’t been good enough but it’s a much bigger issue than Nik.

I think we just need some accountability. Nik has underperformed pretty much his entire playoff career while pretty much everyone else has had at least 1 decent run. Most of them came at the same time in 2018 but still. Nik is just not built for the playoffs.

 

[ps241]

I think we just need some accountability. Nik has underperformed pretty much his entire playoff career while pretty much everyone else has had at least 1 decent run. Most of them came at the same time in 2018 but still. Nik is just not built for the playoffs.

I don’t think TNSE are big on accountability. IF Nik goes it will be because he wants a change or at least that is my belief. Like Maurice before him, we’re going to need Nik to break up with us.

 

[Daximus]

I don’t think TNSE are big on accountability. IF Nik goes it will be because he wants a change or at least that is my belief. Like Maurice before him, we’re going to need Nik to break up with us.

And Laine before him and Trouba before him and Kane before him.

We really are completely averse to letting go of guys.

 

[DashingDane]

Definitely not an excuse for his PO performance (since that has been underwhelming for years) but he did just withdraw himself from playing the world championship for Denmark because of injury. Said he has been having neck issues for 8 months and sometimes would struggle to sit and eat because of pain. Also says that he could play if he really needed to but that he wants to heal up and be ready for the Jets next season.

Article in Danish news this morning confirming he had two herniated discs right before the start of last season that affected his neck. Says he is finally fully recovered and ready to go.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Article in Danish news this morning confirming he had two herniated discs right before the start of last season that affected his neck. Says he is finally fully recovered and ready to go...

... to another team.

 

[Buffdog]

Article in Danish news this morning confirming he had two herniated discs right before the start of last season that affected his neck. Says he is finally fully recovered and ready to go.

HFJets posters: WhY dOeSN'T bONeS PlaY EhlErS mOrE!?!?!?

Buffdog: I dunno, maybe he knows something you don't know?

HFJets posters: ApPeAL tO AuTHoRiTy!!!!! DInoSaUR!!!!!!

 

[Aggie204]

HFJets posters: WhY dOeSN'T bONeS PlaY EhlErS mOrE!?!?!?

Buffdog: I dunno, maybe he knows something you don't know?

HFJets posters: ApPeAL tO AuTHoRiTy!!!!! DInoSaUR!!!!!!

Hey man, I feel personally attacked. (Big Ehlers fan)

 

[Whileee]

Article in Danish news this morning confirming he had two herniated discs right before the start of last season that affected his neck. Says he is finally fully recovered and ready to go.

If he had two herniated discs that might also complicate contact negotiations. The Jets would be reluctant to make a big long-term investment if his health / durability is questionable. Maybe they want to check him out in camp and assess things before making a big contract offer.

 

[Snowboy]

I think we just need some accountability. Nik has underperformed pretty much his entire playoff career while pretty much everyone else has had at least 1 decent run. Most of them came at the same time in 2018 but still. Nik is just not built for the playoffs.

in terms of playoffs, singling out Ehlers is bullshit. It is a team game and the jets are simply not built for the playoffs, and the jets have to date not done much to address the different demands of playoffs and officiating. But i believe they are trying to balance lines and beef up defence. They know what the problems are.

 

[Daximus]

in terms of playoffs, singling out Ehlers is bullshit. It is a team game and the jets are simply not built for the playoffs, and the jets have to date not done much to address the different demands of playoffs and officiating. But i believe they are trying to balance lines and beef up defence. They know what the problems are.

He's basically the only one who hasn't shown up even once. He needs to be singled out because he never, not even once, has shown up.

Beefing up the defence and balancing lines won't make Ehlers suddenly stop becoming a pure perimeter player in the playoffs. He needs to figure that out on his own and so far it's not looking like it's going to happen here.

 

[Snowboy]

He's basically the only one who hasn't shown up even once. He needs to be singled out because he never, not even once, has shown up.

Beefing up the defence and balancing lines won't make Ehlers suddenly stop becoming a pure perimeter player in the playoffs. He needs to figure that out on his own and so far it's not looking like it's going to happen here.

I won't single out Ehlers because i believe he has been misused most of his career and i believe that our new coach is aware of that. I think he will be signed.