Proposal: Edmonton/Anaheim., Edmonton/Montreal

[Double Dion]

Gotta love some oilers fans. We have been searching for right show dmen for 10 years.
We finally have 3 good ones. Bouchard, Barrie, Ceci.
Let's trade them.

Ceci is good? My guess is you'll be singing a different tune at the end of the season. Both Barrie and Bouchard have their strengths, but both certainly have weaknesses too.

 

[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

Ceci is good? My guess is you'll be singing a different tune at the end of the season. Both Barrie and Bouchard have their strengths, but both certainly have weaknesses too.

Ceci has been good so far.
I assume he will have his moments of suck.
Bouchard is already our second best dman behind nurse. Barrie is a good dman. He is offensive and he is fine in the defensive zone.
Depth wise
Bouchard
Barrie
Ceci

 

[Gliff]

Ducks have a ton of those types. As a Ducks fan I'd pass and rather go after one player with more potential than two lesser pieces.

I doubt you would get a better prospect as the centerpiece for a goalie.

And he would probably come in as the Ducks 4th or 5th best prospect only behind the obvious guys and maybe Dostal.

 

[TFHockey]

Here is two deals that clean up some final issues for Edmonton and would be counted as push for the playoffs. I think I am good on value in the first deal as I have seen some proposals with less assets for Gibson, but I actually think this is what it would take for them to make the move


Deal one:
It is no secret that the oilers need a goalie and there have been whispers that the Ducks would consider moving Gibson. The ask will be huge and I am willing to pay it as an oiler fan.

To Anaheim;
Holloway
2022-1st Top 2 protected
Conditional 2nd 2023 that turns into a 1st if the Oilers win the cup in 2022 and Gibson plays in 16 games in the playoffs
Benson
Koskinen

To Edmonton:
Gibson

Summary: The Oilers pay the price to get their man. Anaheim comes out with a 1st, a top prospect, a b-prospect whoc might pop and a 2nd that may turn into anotehr 1st. Koskinen is filler for them until next years FA market. He will be a valuable member of the fight for Wright for the team.

To MTL:

Barrie

To Edmonton

Ben Chiarot
Ryan Poehling

Summary: The Oilers have a ready made solution to losing Barrie in Bouchard and can use the extra money saved to sign Puljujarvi next year as we need to make that a priority. Poehling can get a shot on our 4th line Chiarot can round out out bottom pairing with KK to really solidfy that third pair. The Canadians powerplay is horrid and Barrie is a top flight PP QB. Mtl has the depth to have him seeded in the third pairing which better suits his 5 vs 5 value. I think Edmonton might be getting hosed, but I still make this deal.

Final Edmonton roster

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$80,287,801	$669,339	$850,000	$1,212,199

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Left Wing	Center	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000 C UFA - 5	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000 RW RFA - 1
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 8	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 4	Yamamoto, Kailer $1,175,000 RW, C RFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek $1,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Poehling, Ryan $750,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Shore, Devin $850,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2	Perlini, Brendan $750,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Chiarot, Ben $3,500,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 1	Gibson, John $6,400,000 G NTC UFA - 6
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 2	Ceci, Cody $3,250,000 RD UFA - 4	Smith, Mike $2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Koekkoek, Slater $925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan $863,333 RD RFA - 2

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Sceviour, Colton $750,000 RW UFA - 1	Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000 LD NTC UFA - 2
Russell, Kris $1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Archibald, Josh $1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Turris, Kyle $1,650,000 C UFA - 1		Sta

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I don't like Barrie going to the Habs for so little. I think the Oilers get fleeced in that deal.

Gibson is similar to my previous thread offer, so I am okay with a 1st + Holloway + Koskinen

 

[TFHockey]

I don't think the Ducks have a ton of those types. They probably don't have a player like Holloway. Think Blake Coleman floor, ROR ceiling. Probably ends up closer to Coleman.

We don't know his floor or celling yet. These are just guesses. Everyone keep that in mind.

Holloway's strength is his play along the boards, at least to my eyes. I think he will play better at wing in the NHL than at center. Take that for what it's worth.

 

[Pyrophorus]

This Habs fan would do it.

Barrie would solve a problem for us

You don't have any of the top flight forwards, Barrie has played with throughout his career.
Having seen him, I support your trading for him.

 

[Bouboumaster]

You don't have any of the top flight forwards, Barrie has played with throughout his career.
Having seen him, I support your trading for him.

We have goal scorers on three lines, and we need a LD who can skate and pass. And he would most likely play with Savard, a renowned stay-at-home d-man.
It would be a good match I think.

 

[Archijerej]

We have goal scorers on three lines, and we need a LD who can skate and pass. And he would most likely play with Savard, a renowned stay-at-home d-man.
It would be a good match I think.

Barrie is not a LD.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

This is a rare instance in which Ducks fans think Edmonton is overpaying for Gibson but Oiler fans are ok with paying that price.
I think it is a slight overpay for Gibson, so as a Ducks fan i take that deal and run.

At first i thought it was a package for Lindholm + Rakell and then realized it was for Gibson.

 

[CornKicker]

How good is holloway? What does he project to?

he is so good i would say i would include any other prospect in the oilers system instead of Holloway. he is a relentless forechecker and fantastic goal scorer. his defensive awareness is top end. His Ceiling is a more aggresive marian hossa

 

[CornKicker]

Holloway is a highly competitive, fast, physical, two way player with an endless motor. He has better hands and shot then you would expect, especially in comparison to his draft year. I feel he has high hockey iq. He has good vision. His floor is one of the best 3rd liners in the league and his ceiling is a 1c in the mould of o’reilly, Bergeron, koivu. I would project him to be an above average 2c.

for me he is untouchable. It would have to be an absurd deal, like 1 for 1 for byram or Gibson or kyrou.

100% holloway is the only oilers prospect id consider untouchable (maybe broberg) anyone else i would trade for an upgrade but Hollaway is way too good. ROR/Hossa are the comparibles.

For reference i have been watching him since he was 15

 

[Habs10Habs]

As a Habs fan, I like the deal for Barrie. I think we might have to add a bit to the proposal though.

 

[Captain97]

If Habs still suck at the deadline you can have Chiraot at 50% for 2 2nds or 2nd + B+ prospect.

Could be a boom bust prospect with potential or a high floor low ceiling kind of guy

Unless a bidding war occur like last year for Savard who got a late 1st. I can dream doesn't make it so though.

 

[Beerfish]

Gotta love some oilers fans. We have been searching for right shot dmen for 10 years.
We finally have 3 good ones. Bouchard, Barrie, Ceci.
Let's trade them.

Not just right handers but guys that can get the puck to the forwards and add to scoring.

 

[Syckle78]

Barrie is a perfect fit in Edmonton and you want to trade him for scraps...

 

[soothsayer]

Would swap Holloway for Broberg from an Oilers perspective. If Ducks insisted on Holloway, then I would remove the condition on the pick to make it a straight 2nd.

Would scrap the Barrie deal altogether.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Would swap Holloway for Broberg from an Oilers perspective. If Ducks insisted on Holloway, then I would remove the condition on the pick to make it a straight 2nd.

Would scrap the Barrie deal altogether.

I feel like Anaheim would def want holloway over broberg, doubt we have much interest in broberg.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Too early to trade Barrie, maybe in the off-season if Bouchard continues to play at the level he has.

Also it would be foolish to trade guys like Broberg and Holloway. With their impending cap issues they’re going to need elc players in the lineup

 

[gordonhught]

How good is holloway? What does he project to?

Holloway sucks. You would be better with Yamamoto instead of Holloway.

2022 first
Yamamoto
Koskinen
2023 Second / conditinoal first

For Gibson.

Is reasonable. That is 3 first rounders and Koskinen for a goalie. We are not talking a Vezina goalie. We are talking a top 10 goalie in the league.

If Anaheim wants more, I would trade a lesser package for a different goalie and see what the Oilers can get in free agency.

 

[King1s]

Garbage deals. No thanks.

 

[Mr Positive]

Barrie is a perfect fit in Edmonton and you want to trade him for scraps...

Now that we have a lot of good puck movers Barrie is a spare part. If we are adding a good goalie we'd have to clear cap. Barrie is talented, and worth his cap but maybe not on our team anymore. I like Barrie a lot though, and he's coming off maybe his best game as an Oiler.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Holloway sucks. You would be better with Yamamoto instead of Holloway.

2022 first
Yamamoto
Koskinen
2023 Second / conditinoal first

For Gibson.

Is reasonable. That is 3 first rounders and Koskinen for a goalie. We are not talking a Vezina goalie. We are talking a top 10 goalie in the league.

If Anaheim wants more, I would trade a lesser package for a different goalie and see what the Oilers can get in free agency.

Well its not really a matter of anaheims wants, as i imagine they want to keep gibson.

I dont think Yamamoto does much for us... An undersized winger who maybe tops off at 20 goals 40 points(and that might be generous) and what looks to be a really late 1st(specially if they have gibson there), and a filler goalie that is only in the trade to make the money work for gibson on oilers.

Not exactly an enticing package.

 

[Chayos]

I may have been light on the return to the oilers. Maybe add a 2nd pick coming to the oilers. My feeling is we need to make sure we have room for Puljujarvi next year and we also need a right side defensive type is that third pairing.

 

[gordonhught]

Well its not really a matter of anaheims wants, as i imagine they want to keep gibson.

I dont think Yamamoto does much for us... An undersized winger who maybe tops off at 20 goals 40 points(and that might be generous) and what looks to be a really late 1st(specially if they have gibson there), and a filler goalie that is only in the trade to make the money work for gibson on oilers.

Not exactly an enticing package.

Ok. We will look elsewhere. I wonder if Florida will give up Spencer Knight for a similar or lesser package?

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

This is a rare instance in which Ducks fans think Edmonton is overpaying for Gibson but Oiler fans are ok with paying that price.
I think it is a slight overpay for Gibson, so as a Ducks fan i take that deal and run.

At first i thought it was a package for Lindholm + Rakell and then realized it was for Gibson.

I think a lot of Oiler fans are realistic and know to actually get a player like that it would cost a lot