Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Zach Hyman signs with the Oilers (7 years, $5.5M AAV)

[RobBrown4PM]

The right price would have been 3 - 3.3 million.

Oilers, I'm sorry, Hyman's a great supplementary player, but he is not worth that contract.

 

[seanlinden]

Competition is still competition, just because you don’t play each other often doesn’t mean you help the other guy succeed

Nobody is suggesting that Dubas should go out and sign Hyman, then retain $500k and trade him to Edmonton for nothing.

However, as a GM, your #1 priority must ALWAYS be your team -- not avoiding helping somebody else.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Maybe but that's a shit contract for a pretty minimal improvement

He is a big improvement over the majority of wingers the Oilers have had in years and also a very good fit for the team. If you do not think he is not a big improvement over playing guys like Kahun and Archibald in the top 6, you are the one that is full of it.

 

[oXo Cube]

Rejecting a couple draft picks just to prove how manly you are to your fanbase is pretty sad, but that whole conversation is already beaten to death.

The on topic discussion of this signing is that it sucks. Hard.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I feel like this is prob 2-3 years too long... and 1.5 mil too high.

But i could def see him having a couple huge seasons on Mcdavids wing... and if that is enough to get them a couple deep playoff runs its worth it.

 

[TopCheese]

Hyman will be great in edmonton next to Mcdavid or Drai. Is one of the top players in the league at puck battles and on the forecheck. Absolutely worth 5.5 for the next couple years at least. His style of play does not translate well to a 7 year contract though. He could be a 3rd liner as early as year 3 of this deal

 

[6ix]

Hyman will bring a positive impact to the Oilers, but that’s a bad contract. His flaws were tough to swallow at $2.25 mill, never mind $5.5 mill 7 years. Congrats on getting your retirement contract Zach.

 

[Three On Zero]

Nobody is suggesting that Dubas should go out and sign Hyman, then retain $500k and trade him to Edmonton for nothing.

However, as a GM, your #1 priority must ALWAYS be your team -- not avoiding helping somebody else.

By raising the cap of players that are going to teams that could directly stop the leafs from getting a cup, he is helping his team. That’s worth more than a 5th/7th

 

[Ol' Jase]

Did you copy/paste this from when Neal signed in Edm? Or perhaps it was the Lucic signing thread.

It’s absurd that you’re trying to spin this on us like we’re overreacting. There isn’t a single non-Oiler fan that is saying this is a good deal.

When HFBoards agrees that a contract is bad, it’s guaranteed to be bad.

It’s even worse that Holland didn’t give up a 4th/5th to bring the AAV down to ~5M. If the whole point of this deal is to maximize the window while McD/Drai are signed, then why not bump up your offer from a 6th?

Holland is the worst GM in the league. He is making Benning look like Yzerman.

Ah yes, the famous HFBoards “guarantee” that fanboys know more than anyone else…

 

[Steveshutt]

Hyman is all heart. Great move by the Oilers. Will he play with McDavid or Draisatl?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Nobody is suggesting that Dubas should go out and sign Hyman, then retain $500k and trade him to Edmonton for nothing.

However, as a GM, your #1 priority must ALWAYS be your team -- not avoiding helping somebody else.

Technically there is still time for Holland to step up.

 

[PromisedLand]

Who thinks this is a precursor for Babcock to Edmonton ?

Holland-Babcock connection and Hyman was Babcock's fav player lol

 

[HanSolo]

He is a big improvement over the majority of wingers the Oilers have had in years and also a very good fit for the team. If you do not think he is not a big improvement over playing guys like Kahun and Archibald in the top 6, you are the one that is full of it.

When did I say you were full of it?

Maybe he's an improvement over those guys but if Edmonton's problem is scoring in the playoffs when games get tighter, having Hyman isn't going to be much of an improvement at that point.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Maybe but that's a shit contract for a pretty minimal improvement

I don't think this is a minimal improvement.

Let's not sell Hyman short.

 

[Paulinbc]

Not as laughable as people originally thought, however I still wouldn’t do it myself. Just one more reason why I don’t listen to rumour or gossip.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Oh lawdy...

Holland hasn't even gotten James Neal of the books and he's signing the next Neal contract to the team.

I am so f***ing happy this clown isn't in Detroit anymore.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Actually have respect for Dubas showing the professional courtesy to not tie Holland's noose and kick out the chair for him. He told him his professional suicide was in his own hands.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Hyman is all heart. Great move by the Oilers. Will he play with McDavid or Draisatl?

My guess is McDavid so they can put the Hopkins, Draisaitl, and Yamamoto line back together on a full time basis again, but who knows.

 

[TOGuy14]

So instead of getting something of value for a player who was leaving anyway, Dubas opted to let him walk for nothing?

Ok.

I looked at a list of notable 6th round picks of the last decade and one of the top players was Jesper Bratt, and the 40th guy on the list had less than 10 GP.

A 6th round pick (rumored EDM offer) isn't anything of value, and I would rather have them burn 500k cap space than get back a completely useless pick

Here is your list of active 6th round picks in the NHL

Sixth round NHL draft picks - Active points leaders

I feel like this is prob 2-3 years too long... and 1.5 mil too high.

But i could def see him having a couple huge seasons on Mcdavids wing... and if that is enough to get them a couple deep playoff runs its worth it.

What is a "huge" season for Hyman? Guy has hands of stone when it comes to finish, dude probably whiffed on at least 20-30 clean breakaways this past season alone. Doubt having McDavid or Draisatl changes that

 

[PromisedLand]

A guy with 5 goals in 32 playoff games is somehow just the winger the Oilers need to start winning playoff series. You better hope he pulls a Hornqvist but there is a lot of risk in this move.

As a Leafs fan; Hyman not able to "produce" in the playoffs is less on Hyman and more on other things. Trust me on that!

 

[Cup or Bust]

When did I say you were full of it?

Maybe he's an improvement over those guys but if Edmonton's problem is scoring in the playoffs when games get tighter, having Hyman isn't going to be much of an improvement at that point.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Good player, wish him the best, but that deal will not look good in 3-4 years

 

[banks]

As a Leafs fan, I know the player pretty well. He's a great complimentary guy. Brings effort, defensive play, and tends to mesh with talent. On a 3rd line, he can even drive his own line.

But I wouldn't have given him a contract that rich, or that long. Let alone both. His style won't let him age gracefully, and he's likely already played at his absolute peak. So there's no reason to expect any more out of him than what he did in Toronto.

His Toronto performance wasn't worth over 5M, in my opinion. So it's already a slight overpay, and will only get worse. If he demanded this from the Leafs, I'm glad they let him walk.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Hope his style of game is sustainable over 7 years.

 

[seanlinden]

By raising the cap of players that are going to teams that could directly stop the leafs from getting a cup, he is helping his team. That’s worth more than a 5th/7th

Do you really believe that from Toronto's perspective, the possibility of Edmonton having $500k more space for 7 years isn't worth a 5th and a 7th.

Like seriously, there are 30 other teams in the league. Edmonton does not have that much of an impact on market value of players.

Don't get me wrong, if I'm Dubas, I'd certainly pay more than a 5th and a 7th to get $500k in cap space for the next 7 years, but it's not Dubas' role to determine what Holland should value cap space at.

That $500k of savings also isn't all attributable to Toronto's rights -- part of it is the additional risk borne by having the 8th year on the deal.