That would be a great trade for the Jackets in the long run.
Rumor: EDM, OTT, TOR, LA among interested in LHD Vladislav Gavrikov
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Cowumbus
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Cowumbus
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If it’s a player coming back, it needs to be a C. And not a guy who “can play C” but rather a guy who IS playing C now.
Yeah..... NO
We are not giving up our only 30 goal scorer for a 2nd pairing defense man.
We can trade you a RHD or a center
Cowumbus
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We don’t want wingers anyway. We need C, we don’t need defenseman who can’t play defense, no offense.
From the Leafs id offer 2023 1st, holmberg who is a very good Center prospect who projects to be a solid 3c and a 2023 3rd.
Viqsi
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Kempe is a non-franchise level winger and thus has no conceivable value to the Blue Jackets.
Really.
No, really. We just gave Oliver Bjorkstrand away for practically nothing, okay? No more wingers.
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To be fair, I did say they need both.
One could argue Holl could already be #7 when Brodie returns, given that Benn is apparently an early Norris favourite.
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Sounds like you should be packaging up wingers instead of moving a defenseman.
Viqsi
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That would be preferred if possible, but, well, it seems like everybody has a lot of depth wingers and a desire for defensive improvement nowadays.
Our wingers aren't on a expiring contract. The only reason he's being discussed is because his contract is up at the end of the season, and we'd rather get something than let him walk IF he's not considering re-signing. If he wants to re-sign, we probably aren't moving him.
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Of course, but it is going to be difficult to solve the Jackets problems with one deal, and the teams looking for a solid, sizeable defensemen are likely to shoring up for a run and probably won't have the kinds of two-way pivots you need in return.
The player the Kings have that might best suit your needs is Rasmus Kupari. The hope here is that Kupari could be shifted to RW to exploit his speed and powerful stride, but he prefers and just simply plays better up the middle. The Kings would need to send salary back, and the areas they have in abundance are puck moving RHDs and top 6 wingers, none of which seem to meet the gaps that other posters indicate need to be filled.
I suggested Kempe as he has been a center/wing tweener who found 30 goal form as a winger with Kopitar. The acquisition of Fiala with the emergence of Vilardi and Kaliyev, not to mention Moore and Arvidsson on the Kings best line, leaves them in the position of having a quality, immediate asset of a top 6 winger to deal for their most pressing need - a defensively solid top 4 LHD. May not fit in this particular deal, but its the kind of trade the Kings will be looking to make.
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CBJ wants a C?
Ryan McLeod for Gavrikov. The best offer you’ll get that includes a young and good Center.
Gavrikov would need to be extended, cause Mcleod will be extended as a cost controlled RFA.
Ryan McLeod for Gavrikov. The best offer you’ll get that includes a young and good Center.
Gavrikov would need to be extended, cause Mcleod will be extended as a cost controlled RFA.
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If only trades were this easy in the NHL. Thank you for the response though.
Gavrikov is much better then Lyubushkin at everything except for hitting.
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Thats not a great deal for the blue jackets even if Gavrikov isn't extended.
Holmberg is a solid prospect who is NHL ready and has a very good defensive game already. The first and 3rd are the standard for a rental. This is gavrikov were talking about not Kane.
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I mean it’s standard if your used to spending 1sts to rent the corpse of Foligno for a couple weeks.
Holmberg is a former 6th round pick and a complete question mark if he’ll ever become an NHL C.
If Mcleod isn’t enough then Oilers are out. Too much for a rental.
Holmberg played yesterday for the Leafs centering the 3rd line. He was very good and picked up a point. His game at lower levels has been very good and defensively he is far ahead of where he should be at his age. He may have been drafted in the 6th round but he is a very projectable NHL player and the deal also had a 1st and a 3rd. If McLeod is all edmonton is offering they won't be getting Gavrikov.
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You should try adding one to your proposal if you want to be taken more seriously, what you added was a 30 point bottom six center.
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Lol 2 games played. Barely any AHL time. “Projects to be” indeed. Then your taking a late 1st and late 3rd (might as well call them a 2nd and a 4th).
If CBJ wants 3 magic beans instead of a legit, cost controlled NHL Center then they can knock themselves out.
Viqsi
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Yeah, no. We don't need roster center depth; we have that already. Center prospects are good. A #1C is good. But #3-4Cs get you a dialtone.
Or, put differently - please somehow elaborate what we'd be getting from McLeod that we don't already get from Liam Foudy.
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