Proposal: EDM - CHI
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Empoleon8771
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Take out Murphy and this deal is closer to fair.
That is a pretty brutal take.
People who, you know, actually know something about hockey realize Barrie ISN'T a cap dump. He has value. Chicago has De Haan as a pending ufa and a number of RFAs to sign next year. Barrie as a puck moving RHD is useful to them in that regard.
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What does Connor Murphy go for if he is made available this year do you think? Serious question.
Honestly not sure. My guess is they’ll ask for a first and a prospect. Don’t know though.
I can understand the ask, but I am not sure that is what he'll get. I am not trying to rip off the Hawks. Here is my reasoning:
It looks to me that Chicago is out of it this year. They have too much ground to make up and they are running out of games to do it. All of the teams right in front of them have games in hand as well.
If Chicago is out of the playoff they should be looking towards next year and making trades to get picks and prospects. I think the window for more cup runs has closed for them.
Last year we saw some defensemen go for really high prices. Ristolainen and Savard come to mind.
I *think* this year will be a much different trade deadline. It looks like more teams are out of the running than last year and more guys are going to be available. I believe that will drive the price down on a number of players. So asking for what some players got last year isn't going to match the reality of trades this year. At least that is what I believe will happen.
So I think this is a fair offer for the Hawks, but I don't know if they really want to deal Connor Murphy at all or what his real world trade value will end up being.
Fair enough. Who knows the old Gm gave him the extension. Interim guy in. Can he make that type of deal. And like you said who knows if they really even want to move on from him.
Trade wise my guess it will be a offseason type of deal.
A second and a B prospect?
While Barrie gets traded with a pick attached to a bad team with cap space in order to move his deal and the remaining term. Which bad team needs a 31 year old Berrie making $4.5mm for the next few years? I can think of zero. That’s not a rebuilding move.
the other option is Edmonton takes on someone else’s bad contract with similar term and AAV in a change of scenery deal.
Chicago's power play is somewhere around 18%. They could use a power play quarterback like Barrie.
Barrie isn't a cap dump in the actual NHL, no matter what the HF narrative is.
ManofSteel55
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Oh lord, another bad take. Edmonton won't have to retain on Barrie or add a pick to move him. He is making a fair salary for what he brings. I don't think Chicago is the best option for him though as they have Jones to play where they would need Barrie to play. That doesn't mean that there aren't teams out there that need a puck moving RD. I swear, everyone always talks about the premium placed on RD due to scarcity, until Barrie's name comes into play. All because he didn't work out in Toronto.
As per teams that could use him, there are a number of them. Many with bad powerplays.
GhostfaceWu
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Why is it that so many trades has Barrie going back in the trade to be followed up by oiler fans saying he is not a cap dump? No one wants to pay the guy that kind of money for what he offers.
ManofSteel55
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Exactly. We see offense first defensemen signed to similar contracts as Barrie every summer as free agents.
Kaners PPGs
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He might not be a cap dump but he isn't a player a rebuilding team desires nor is he is the type of defensemen that contending teams are usually looking to add at the deadline. And improving the powerplay does not have a high priority for the Blackhawks. If they trade Murphy it will be for futures not for a player like Barrie.
Don’t really care chief. He’ll be worth whatever he is traded for. If it’s less oh well.
there's a limit to the number of times you can put conditions on a pick . like 1
my bad . just noticed it's 2023
my bad . just noticed it's 2023
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Edmonton fans adamantly stomp their feet and say Barrie has value (even to the point of insulting those that disagree with them) yet they try to sneak him into EVERY trade proposal hoping someone bites 
if he’s so valuable and worth his cap hit, keep him
if he’s so valuable and worth his cap hit, keep him
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Edmonton fans adamantly stomp their feet and say Barrie has value (even to the point of insulting those that disagree with them) yet they try to sneak him into EVERY trade proposal hoping someone bites
if he’s so valuable and worth his cap hit, keep him
He might even have value, just don't throw him in trade proposals with teams that just generally wouldn't be interested in a 30 year old D-man.
GhostfaceWu
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Lol that is literally truthful for every trade doesn't make a first and prospect any less laughable chief.
Barrie’s defense will always make him hard to trade. His underlying metics really hurt. Unless at team wants a PP 1 QB, I don’t see a market for him where Edmonton can expect a pick or good player coming back.
Chicago has Seth Jones for PP1. They don’t need Barrie for what he’s best at. The power play.
you oil fans can scream from the roof tops Barrie has value, but a lot of us disagree. I think there is a finite and small number of teams that would want him.
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