Value of: Edler to MTL
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Addison Rae
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Logically speaking I see where you're coming from, and on the surface the notion of Vancouver trading Edler for futures seems like a good a one. But Vancouver's managment team seems out of touch with reality they're trying an unprecedented "retool" and they feel like Edler is a core piece in it.
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I'm not as high on Sergachev as a lot of people seem to be, but i'd still absolutely take Sergachev and a top-60 pick or quality prospect for Edler. Throw in Emelin to make the cap work, and add some value for MTL dumping that contract.
Vancouver's blueline would be...pretty awful for a couple years. But that's the type of package that would make me seriously think about moving Edler right now.
Habs fans may scoff at that...but Edler is a 30 year old top-pairing defenceman on a really solid value contract $5MAAV. They ain't cheap.
Vancouver's blueline would be...pretty awful for a couple years. But that's the type of package that would make me seriously think about moving Edler right now.
Habs fans may scoff at that...but Edler is a 30 year old top-pairing defenceman on a really solid value contract $5MAAV. They ain't cheap.
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I'm not as high on Sergachev as a lot of people seem to be, but i'd still absolutely take Sergachev and a top-60 pick or quality prospect for Edler. Throw in Emelin to make the cap work, and add some value for MTL dumping that contract.
Vancouver's blueline would be...pretty awful for a couple years. But that's the type of package that would make me seriously think about moving Edler right now.
Habs fans may scoff at that...but Edler is a 30 year old top-pairing defenceman on a really solid value contract $5MAAV. They ain't cheap.
A 30 year old #2 isn't worth a top 10 pick and a top 60 pick, even with cap dumps. Especially when Benning is the GM
I'm not as high on Sergachev as a lot of people seem to be, but i'd still absolutely take Sergachev and a top-60 pick or quality prospect for Edler. Throw in Emelin to make the cap work, and add some value for MTL dumping that contract.
Vancouver's blueline would be...pretty awful for a couple years. But that's the type of package that would make me seriously think about moving Edler right now.
Habs fans may scoff at that...but Edler is a 30 year old top-pairing defenceman on a really solid value contract $5MAAV. They ain't cheap.
Edler isn't a top-pair dmen on any team
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I'm not as high on Sergachev as a lot of people seem to be, but i'd still absolutely take Sergachev and a top-60 pick or quality prospect for Edler. Throw in Emelin to make the cap work, and add some value for MTL dumping that contract.
Vancouver's blueline would be...pretty awful for a couple years. But that's the type of package that would make me seriously think about moving Edler right now.
Habs fans may scoff at that...but Edler is a 30 year old top-pairing defenceman on a really solid value contract $5MAAV. They ain't cheap.
Put yourself in our shoes and how do you feel trading a top 10 pick who most gms say is the best D available in the draft and took best D award as a rookie in the ohl, for an aging 2D who is passed his peak
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Beaulieu+Scherbak is what I'd want.
Apply the Benning tax to this deal and it's Beaulieu, Scherbak+ 4th for Edler + 2nd.
That's my offer.
Apply the Benning tax to this deal and it's Beaulieu, Scherbak+ 4th for Edler + 2nd.
That's my offer.
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I get it. I wouldn't make that deal from a Habs perspective either.
But then...sometimes, that's why trades don't happen. It just doesn't make sense for either team. So...
I could see Edler being a guy MB goes after at the deadline. He likes players with a little bit of term left. I don't see paying a big price right now for him though.
That's a very provocative statement, seeing as we took a defenseman top 5.
Edler wouldn't be as important to Montreal as he currently is to Vancouver, ergo he has less value for you than he does for us and your offer would clearly be less than what we'd want back.
That said, I agree with my fellow canucks, I'm just not really interested in anything that you guys have. Scherbak maybe.
Beaulieu wouldn't really fit with our unimpressive logjam at LHD. Juulsen has become unimpressive, or rather we have players like him in our system and wouldn't give Edler for a piece like that imo.
It'd have to be a roster player, which makes things harder.
Edler, or who ever plays top LD, is only holding that spot until Sergachev, hopefully, is ready to take it.
So it makes no sense to trade Sergachev for that top LD.
Plus, for what the Canucks will want for Edler we could make a play for a younger D.
Lastly, I have no interest in Edler. When was the last time he played a whole season?
So it makes no sense to trade Sergachev for that top LD.
Plus, for what the Canucks will want for Edler we could make a play for a younger D.
Lastly, I have no interest in Edler. When was the last time he played a whole season?
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I could see Edler thriving in MTL. With Weber taking the load of the defensive responsibility, Eddie can focus on offence. Here in VAN his offence gets stifled trying to play a more defensive game, his strength is in the O-zone.
However, the price of Edler?
I don't think VAN makes this trade unless the team is a tire fire by February and we're unloading for picks.
INB4 Benning gon' Benning
However, the price of Edler?
I don't think VAN makes this trade unless the team is a tire fire by February and we're unloading for picks.
INB4 Benning gon' Benning
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I get it. I wouldn't make that deal from a Habs perspective either.
But then...sometimes, that's why trades don't happen. It just doesn't make sense for either team. So...
Yup, no deal to be made... we don't have room to protect another D anyway
Not provocative, think Juolevi is a great player and will most likely be a better D than Sergachev, its just Sergachev has very high potential... Even Edmonton was ready to take Sergachev if Puljujarvi wasn't available. Even S bowman had high praise for the kid and said he can be play in the nhl next year.
We don't want to protect another D however, we are already protecting Beaulieu/Weber/Petry next summer. Makes no sense to lose Edler next year
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dont you guys already have a Nathan Beaulieu in Hutton? Why add another.
Edler for Sergachaev would never happen unless Van adds significantly. Highest upside D in the draft for a borderline top 2 D man.. more likely a top 3
Its in Vans favor to keep Edler along with Gudb to help the kids on D in the near future.
Van needs help up front with the Sedins beign done in a few years..
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Sergachev is a non starter in my books.
But Juulsen is definitely doable as part of a deal for Edler IMO.
Perhaps add another quality future from the habs plus some a dump.
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It'd be a lot more than Juulsen and a pick + dump for Edler. A LOT MORE. He's a top pairing #2 dman who is only 30 with term and an extremely reasonable cap hit. A regressed d prospect is closer to a throw in than it is a centrepiece.
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Complete nonsense. Sergachev has yet to even play a NHL game and we're already ranking him above a #1 defenseman? Recent trends should highlight very clearly GMs do not value prospects nearly to the extent HF does.
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Only piece from the Habs that remotely interests me is Mccarron and i don't think he's worth Edler.
BLNY
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Not much interest from a Montreal perspective. He's thirty, and the last few years have not been kind to his body.
