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ECSF: Toronto Maple Leafs (A2) vs. Florida Panthers (WC2) ( Florida Leads 3-1 )

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Nico Hischier said:
I honestly wonder why that is. They both play the same number of games and play in the same arena that seats the same amount of fans (if it’s sold out). Why does a playoff basketball game bring in double the revenue of a playoff hockey game?
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Easy. Higher priced tickets.
 
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FlaPanthers11 said:
Seeing a lot of “Bob stole the game” but don’t really think that was the case. Most of his best work came in the last minute of a 4-2 lead. The Panthers have a big issue with taking their foot off the gas with a lead so score effects play a big part in their games.

Panthers were easily the better team at 5v5 through the first period (and really throughout the whole game). Toronto dominated when on the PP (this will happen all series) and 6v5 in the last couple minutes.

The difference in play for Florida depending on the score, especially in terms of their aggression, is obvious and was seen in the last 3 games of the BOS series as well.

Game 5 the Panthers gave up 3 separate one goal leads but bounced back for the next goal each time the game was tied up.

Game 6 they again blew 3 separate one goal leads but again turned the aggression back up and immediately tied up the game twice when trailing in the 3rd and used the forecheck to take the lead when tied late in the 3rd again.

Game 7 another similar story. Aggressive to earn a 2-0 lead. Sat on it which led to a 3-2 Bruins lead. Got the tying goal and carried play most of OT

Hard to draw too many conclusions about how the series will play out based on one game where the Panthers led almost the whole way. In a neutral game state and at 5v5, the Panthers had the better of the play
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Maybe not stole but Toronto certainly had more scoring chances than Florida that game, and it wasn't really that close either.
 
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Turin said:
From my pov it was more Florida slightly better 1st period, Toronto much better 2nd period, Toronto slightly better in the 3rd because of score effects.
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yeah I saw it the same. Florida way better in first other than the PP's, and then toronto dominated the second. The third was only toronto because the panthers were protecting the lead. And honestly the leafs didn't look very good in the third until they pulled the goalie.
 
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Turin said:
From my pov it was more Florida slightly better 1st period, Toronto much better 2nd period, Toronto slightly better in the 3rd because of score effects.
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Finally someone mentions score effects, only took like 20 pages!
 
authentic said:
Maybe not stole but Toronto certainly had more scoring chances than Florida that game, and it wasn't really that close either.
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Natural stat trick has scoring chances at 5v5 as 25-20 in favor of the Panthers

8-1 in favor of Toronto on powerplays

And 11-0 in favor of Toronto during the ~3 minutes they played with an empty net down 2

Again credit to Toronto for the late push but the game was mostly locked up by the time they actually created many of their chances

The Panthers were the better team at 5 on 5 which made up 80% of the ice time from last night’s game
 
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Bob has given the right amount of quality goaltending. He’s not been amazing or lame.

The Cats attack and know who to neutralize, that’s come in big for them.

The Leafs are totally underestimated. I wouldn’t count them out at all.

This series is absolutely even money.
 
FlaPanthers11 said:
Natural stat trick has scoring chances at 5v5 as 25-20 in favor of the Panthers

8-1 in favor of Toronto on powerplays

And 11-0 in favor of Toronto during the ~3 minutes they played with an empty net down 2

Again credit to Toronto for the late push but the game was mostly locked up by the time they actually created many of their chances

The Panthers were the better team at 5 on 5 which made up 80% of the ice time from last night’s game
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So that's 39-26. That's not very close really. 5v5 was close though.
 
Voodoo Child said:
No doubt - Panthers play a heavy game and have a lot of skill, but also give up a lot the other way.

Great game to watch despite the loss even the officiating was sound.
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The Leafs are going to get a lot of chances in this series, I bet.

Florida seems content to trade blows up and down the ice and let the goalies fight it out.

If that’s how this series goes, and you’re betting on bobrovsky to be vezina level night after night, I have to think that’s not a great bet.

I think the leafs are too highly skilled to lose this series, and they aren’t easily pushed around anymore.

Of course, if bob puts up a .960 this series, panthers are going to run away with it
 
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Morlu said:
Power plays were pretty one sided in favour of Toronto but they failed to take advantage of it. Have to think the penalties are more even going forward.


They were technically 5-1. But a double minor with 40 seconds left. Panthers scored on the delayed powerplay, so it was 4-2.
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That post just goes to show how many people ignore the game and just look at the stat sheet, or box scores without any context whatsoever.

Must be why there are so many bad takes in here
 
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Strangle said:
The Leafs are going to get a lot of chances in this series, I bet.

Florida seems content to trade blows up and down the ice and let the goalies fight it out.

If that’s how this series goes, and you’re betting on bobrovsky to be vezina level night after night, I have to think that’s not a great bet.

I think the leafs are too highly skilled to lose this series, and they aren’t easily pushed around anymore.

Of course, if bob puts up a .960 this series, panthers are going to run away with it
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If Bob is at .920 for the series, the Panthers will be fine. Boston was a pretty skilled team as well, with a better d-core.
 
sinDer said:
But how many of these chances happened in the last 8 minutes when the score was 4-2 Panthers?
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11-0.

We also scored 3 goals down 4-1 with 10 minutes left against Tampa so it's not like the game was totally out of reach.

Should be a good close series the rest of the way though, as long as the Panthers can stay disciplined.
 
Zegs2sendhelp said:
I think a lot of people in general slept on panthers…. They are a much stronger team than what their seed is… and 1 of the hotter teams coming into the playoffs.

Florida is deep and physical and will be all over samsonov in the series …. The big question is can their goaltending hold up…. And can they keep Toronto’s offense in check.


Tough to say who will win the series, I’m just hoping for exciting games
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Absolutely, the majority narrative of the last round was that even if we defeated Tampa ( but it will go 7 and the Leafs will lose) we would get destroyed by Boston.
 
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