Post-Game Talk: ECQF GAME 7 - IT'S OVER - THIS IS GOING TO HURT FOR A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME

[LouJersey]

If you are watching the games simply to see the Bruins win a Cup then yes, that's an investment that is absolutely not worth it.

But I think most Bruins fans watch the games for the enjoyment of the game. So for us calling it an investment would be like calling vacation an investment.

Again. Win the cup when you are supposed to. Simple as that. Like when you are the best regular season team that ever existed and when you have a game 7 at home vs an inferior team. I didn’t expect them to win in 21 and 22. . 20 I did but not when Covid hit and tuukka left.

Winning is the be all and end all for the players. Listen to the Montgomery podcast w Nilan and listen to what Toe Blake used to say.

 

[UncleRico]

Because that's what it is? Ive watched 70 regular season games a year, or what 200+ hours, 3 nights a week minimum? I'm sorry but that's not worth winning one round in three years any longer, especially after this post season. They can't win as a favorite and can't win as an underdog, it's been ten years since 2013, they have one good run in a decade. I'm just not a shoulder shurgger when they get knocked out if they are better.

Some people are just completely content with a fun regular season and a playoff birth and whatever happens so be it.

I enjoy watching the regular season, certainly like the cheaper tickets and getting some friends together to go to/watch games, but for me the regular season is just to prove your team isn’t a dumpster fire. The real season starts in the playoffs.

 

[LouJersey]

Some people are just completely content with a fun regular season and a playoff birth and whatever happens so be it.

I enjoy watching the regular season, certainly like the cheaper tickets and getting some friends together to go to/watch games, but for me the regular season is just to prove your team isn’t a dumpster fire. The real season starts in the playoffs.

I guess for me it just strikes me as weird bruins fans have the same exact reaction losing in the playoffs this season as every other like they were a six seed. Like they weren’t the greatest team in history and they STILL had zero expectations. Like oh well the regular season was great and oh well. Just don’t know how you can be not be angry and completely fed up. I just can’t relate I guess.

 

[UncleRico]

I guess for me it just strikes me as weird bruins fans have the same exact reaction losing in the playoffs this season as every other like they were a six seed. Like they weren’t the greatest team in history and they STILL had zero expectations. Like oh well the regular season was great and oh well. Just don’t know how you can be not be angry and completely fed up. I just can’t relate I guess.

I made a post earlier about how top 6 centers in their mid 30s don’t win cups. One of the responses was “ya but how many teams with top 6 centers in their mid 30s made it to the SCF” like it was an accomplishment just to make it to the dance.

Some people are just completely content with a playoff birth or making it to the cup. That’s a successful season to them.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Would help if Sweeney knew what Bergeron and Krejci’s plans were wouldn’t it.

Doesn't matter what Krejci's plans are. Sweeney's plans should be to move on from him, and that's all that matters.

 

[LouJersey]

I made a post earlier about how top 6 centers in their mid 30s don’t win cups. One of the responses was “ya but how many teams with top 6 centers in their mid 30s made it to the SCF” like it was an accomplishment just to make it to the dance.

Some people are just completely content with a playoff birth or making it to the cup. That’s a successful season to them.

People don’t see a big issue with one cup win in fifty years I guess. I’ve been a fan for 45 of those years

 

[Hamilton Brian]

Still hurts 2 months or so later. Angry. Jaded. Worried I've been suckered by who I thought were the best forwards ever.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Again. Win the cup when you are supposed to. Simple as that. Like when you are the best regular season team that ever existed and when you have a game 7 at home vs an inferior team. I didn’t expect them to win in 21 and 22. . 20 I did but not when Covid hit and tuukka left.

Winning is the be all and end all for the players. Listen to the Montgomery podcast w Nilan and listen to what Toe Blake used to say.

Sure, except for their salaries..

But we are not NHL players so what's the point?

 

[LouJersey]

Sure, except for their salaries..

But we are not NHL players so what's the point?

What's the point of winning? I mean as a fan that's the whole point no? Again, one cup in 50 years sucks It's awful. You are not going to win most years, agreed and the expectations are such...last year, zero expectations. This year, anything less than a Cup win was a colossal failure. At one point does even the most apathetic fan to winning say, "Wow these guys just can't get it done?" I just don't get the winning isn't the goal, it's entertainment mentality Sounds a lot like participation trophy mentality. I watch all my teams to hopefully see titles.

 

[smithformeragent]

I’m fine with Bergeron back, but not as your number 1 center.

Love the guy, but there’s a lot of mileage on those tires, and it’s a matter of when, not if he gets hurt.

If he comes back for peanuts, it’s got to be on a reduced workload or they’re DOA.

And maybe that means doing some reshuffling and moving a guy like Coyle out, and maybe even moving one of your better wings out.

Feels like they’ve hit a dead end. Can’t keep going down the same path at this point.

I want major changes to the pro roster, and they’ve got little in the way of draft capital to work with.

That means that either someone or someones have to go, or you slowly descend into mediocrity.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Listen to the Montgomery podcast w Nilan and listen to what Toe Blake used to say.

Nilan?

I've changed my mind. Get Montgomery gone. Now.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

What's the point of winning? I mean as a fan that's the whole point no? Again, one cup in 50 years sucks It's awful. You are not going to win most years, agreed and the expectations are such...last year, zero expectations. This year, anything less than a Cup win was a colossal failure. At one point does even the most apathetic fan to winning say, "Wow these guys just can't get it done?" I just don't get the winning isn't the goal, it's entertainment mentality Sounds a lot like participation trophy mentality. I watch all my teams to hopefully see titles.

You don't get it because it doesn't exist. The players want to win. The coach wants to win. The GM wants to win. The owners want to win. The fans want to see their team win.

The goal is always winning.

But it's a 32-team league and only one team will win the Cup each year.

 

[LouJersey]

You don't get it because it doesn't exist. The players want to win. The coach wants to win. The GM wants to win. The owners want to win. The fans want to see their team win.

The goal is always winning.

But it's a 32-team league and only one team will win the Cup each year.

Right. And when you have game 7 of the SCF at home you should win. When you are the greatest team in the history of the sport, you should win. What's wrong with not expecting any less in those cases? It's fine, as long as you are entertained winning is secondary, I get it. You don't hold your favorite teams to any type of standard or expectations.

The fact that you are comparing this team to the other 31 is mind boggling. The "only one team wins" thing is pretty much the biggest loser mentality a person can have. I wonder if that's the mindset of this current group, that's why they choke all the time now? I would doubt it, I'm sure the players are like "oh well, only one team can win, A for effort though!"

 

[Bruinfanatic]

You don't get it because it doesn't exist. The players want to win. The coach wants to win. The GM wants to win. The owners want to win. The fans want to see their team win.

The goal is always winning.

But it's a 32-team league and only one team will win the Cup each year.

Of course they won’t,but after the regular season they had this year it was definitely expected,bye many .And am amazed how so many have just brushed this off so easily,not saying you necessarily,but have read posts saying the early collapse in the playoffs doesn’t take away from the great regular season,Yes! It does ,it does this season that’s for sure.

 

[UncleRico]

You don't get it because it doesn't exist. The players want to win. The coach wants to win. The GM wants to win. The owners want to win. The fans want to see their team win.

The goal is always winning.

But it's a 32-team league and only one team will win the Cup each year.

I think the goal is to win, but I think their bigger goal is to have bergeron, krejci and Marchand retire as bruins and winning comes second after that.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Right. And when you have game 7 of the SCF at home you should win. When you are the greatest team in the history of the sport, you should win. What's wrong with not expecting any less in those cases? It's fine, as long as you are entertained winning is secondary, I get it. You don't hold your favorite teams to any type of standard or expectations.

The fact that you are comparing this team to the other 31 is mind boggling. The "only one team wins" thing is pretty much the biggest loser mentality a person can have. I wonder if that's the mindset of this current group, that's why they choke all the time now? I would doubt it, I'm sure the players are like "oh well, only one team can win, A for effort though!"

Just because everyone isn’t ranting and raving like you doesn’t mean they only care about being entertained and don’t care about winning in the playoffs.

 

[UncleRico]

Just because everyone isn’t ranting and raving like you doesn’t mean they only care about being entertained and don’t care about winning in the playoffs.

I remember a boat load of ranting, raving and victory laps by you during the regular season.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I remember a boat load of ranting, raving and victory laps by you during the regular season.

I admit, I enjoyed watching the Bruins win this year. I know we’re not supposed to care, but I can’t help it.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Of course they won’t,but after the regular season they had this year it was definitely expected,bye many .And am amazed how so many have just brushed this off so easily,not saying you necessarily,but have read posts saying the early collapse in the playoffs doesn’t take away from the great regular season,Yes! It does ,it does this season that’s for sure.

Yeah, I'm speaking more to the 1 Cup in 50 years crowd.

Like I've said before, I probably had higher expectation going into these playoffs than any time since 1974. The regular season is still the greatest regular season. It's in the books. But I'm pretty sure all Bruins fans were extremely disappointed by the playoff results. Especially since the Bruins never trailed in the series until the last play of the season. A stunning gut punch.

 

[UncleRico]

I admit, I enjoyed watching the Bruins win this year. I know we’re not supposed to care, but I can’t help it.

So it’s ok for you to take victory laps during the regular season and mock people who said they should have blown up the team when everything was going well in February, but now your cry wolf when the exact same situation for years repeats itself and those people are still calling for the team to move on?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So it’s ok for you to take victory laps during the regular season and mock people who said they should have blown up the team when everything was going well in February, but now your cry wolf when the exact same situation for years repeats itself and those people are still calling for the team to move on?

Yes. Absolutely. People whose reaction to this past season is that they were right that they should have blown it up are disingenuous at best.

 

[Bmessy]

I’m fine with Bergeron back, but not as your number 1 center.

Love the guy, but there’s a lot of mileage on those tires, and it’s a matter of when, not if he gets hurt.

If he comes back for peanuts, it’s got to be on a reduced workload or they’re DOA.

And maybe that means doing some reshuffling and moving a guy like Coyle out, and maybe even moving one of your better wings out.

Feels like they’ve hit a dead end. Can’t keep going down the same path at this point.

I want major changes to the pro roster, and they’ve got little in the way of draft capital to work with.

That means that either someone or someones have to go, or you slowly descend into mediocrity.

Reminds me of the Datsyuk and Zetterberg and Marleau and Thornton twilight years. Those didn't work out either

 

[UncleRico]

Reminds me of the Datsyuk and Zetterberg and Marleau and Thornton twilight years. Those didn't work out either

And the sakic/Blake/Foote twilight years

And the current example of the penguins with Crosby, Letang, malkin and petry all over 35 and having prominent roles and slowly going from cup contenders to missing the playoffs.

Holding on to aging veterans on top 6 and top 4 roles has always been a losing battle.

Unfortunately Bruins management doesn’t see it.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Yes. Absolutely. People whose reaction to this past season is that they were right that they should have blown it up are disingenuous at best.

As you can see, arguing with anyone that holds the view that there is one winner and everyone else is a loser (tied for last) is a fruitless venture. They are right every year about the Bruins. If the B's actually won the Cup this year, they wouldn't even post here.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

And the sakic/Blake/Foote twilight years

And the current example of the penguins with Crosby, Letang, malkin and petry all over 35 and having prominent roles and slowly going from cup contenders to missing the playoffs.

Holding on to aging veterans on top 6 and top 4 roles has always been a losing battle.

Unfortunately Bruins management doesn’t see it.

A big problem is the Bruins haven’t developed another Center through drafting.