GDT: ECQF 4 | FLYERS (A) vs. Canadiens (H) | Tuesday, Aug. 18, 2020 | 3:00 pm ET | Flyers lead series 2-1

[flyersnorth]

An interesting point: Charlie O was saying that in the Habs post-game 3 presser/media coverage, they mentioned that the Flyers basically shut down the middle of the ice (both between blue lines and between the center of the ice and boards) and forced the Habs to alter their game plan.

The Habs like to use their centers to drive play up the middle, but the Flyers forced the Habs to use wingers as puck carriers, and the Habs were largely unsuccessful at breaking through.

 

[TheKingPin]

An interesting point: Charlie O was saying that in the Habs post-game 3 presser/media coverage, they mentioned that the Flyers basically shut down the middle of the ice (both between blue lines and between the center of the ice and boards) and forced the Habs to alter their game plan.

The Habs like to use their centers to drive play up the middle, but the Flyers forced the Habs to use wingers as puck carriers, and the Habs were largely unsuccessful at breaking through.

Stops their speed. Makes for a boring game that many on here didn’t like. But I’ll take another boring win please!

 

[DancingPanther]

Stops their speed. Makes for a boring game that many on here didn’t like. But I’ll take another boring win please!

The Flyers can both choke up the Habs' ice in the middle of the NZ and also attack on offense through transition hockey and controlled zone entries. They abandoned the latter

Therefore, Thompson should see 11 mins of 5v5 action

 

[flyersnorth]

The Flyers can both choke up the Habs' ice in the middle of the NZ and also attack on offense through transition hockey and controlled zone entries. They abandoned the latter

I didn't get the sense they abandoned it - the Habs just did a really solid job at denying clean entries. Most of the time, even on clean entries, the Flyers were forced to dump in behind the net, which Price promptly retrieved or at least disrupted.

If there's one weakness in Hart's game, it's his puck handling.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

I didn't get the sense they abandoned it - the Habs just did a really solid job at denying clean entries. Most of the time, even on clean entries, the Flyers were forced to dump in behind the net, which Price promptly retrieved or at least disrupted.

If there's one weakness in Hart's game, it's his puck handling.

I’m not averse to dumping if the opposition forces you into it. But they absolutely have to avoid the trapezoid. Lobs to the corner or high off the glass please.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[FlyerNutter]

I’m as hard on JVR as anyone but sitting him and leaving 44 in. Sigh

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I’m as hard on JVR as anyone but sitting him and leaving 44 in. Sigh

Well one is a winger and one is a center, but I get your point.

 

[FLYguy3911]

There goes any trade value he had.

 

[Les Averman]

There goes any trade value he had.

Yeah I'm imagining we'll be working out a deal with Seattle to take him

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[flyersnorth]

I’m as hard on JVR as anyone but sitting him and leaving 44 in. Sigh

I mean, unless you are playing JVR in the top 6/top 9, then Thompson definitely has more value.

At this point, I would put JVR in the top 6 for a game.

G/C/V
JVR/Hayes/TK
Farabee/Laughton/NAK
Raffl/Thompson or Grant/Pitlick

 

[deadhead]

An interesting point: Charlie O was saying that in the Habs post-game 3 presser/media coverage, they mentioned that the Flyers basically shut down the middle of the ice (both between blue lines and between the center of the ice and boards) and forced the Habs to alter their game plan.

The Habs like to use their centers to drive play up the middle, but the Flyers forced the Habs to use wingers as puck carriers, and the Habs were largely unsuccessful at breaking through.

Keep the Habs on the perimeter, and Hart focused on steering rebounds to the corners, and you kill their offense.
They'll still put up high Corsi, but low xGF, and that's what we saw in Game 3.

 

[deadhead]

I mean, unless you are playing JVR in the top 6/top 9, then Thompson definitely has more value.

JVR would make sense at 2LW and Laughton at 3C, but Farabee is probably better at 3LW against the Habs with Grant as 3C.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Well one is a winger and one is a center, but I get your point.

One is a decent player.

One is a turd

I don’t disagree with wanting more from JVR, he was very impressive during the regular season.

 

[TheKingPin]

The Flyers can both choke up the Habs' ice in the middle of the NZ and also attack on offense through transition hockey and controlled zone entries. They abandoned the latter

It’s certainly possible, but the habs are playing well and really executing a great game plan. You can counter it which the flyers started to do last game and will hopefully continue today. First they had to stop their speed. Now they can work on the transition and taking advantage of the habs’ aggressiveness.

They have just played 7 games after being off for 4 months. What flyer team ever does well in the first 10 games? I expect we will see steady improvement as the series and playoffs goes on.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

An interesting point: Charlie O was saying that in the Habs post-game 3 presser/media coverage, they mentioned that the Flyers basically shut down the middle of the ice (both between blue lines and between the center of the ice and boards) and forced the Habs to alter their game plan.

The Habs like to use their centers to drive play up the middle, but the Flyers forced the Habs to use wingers as puck carriers, and the Habs were largely unsuccessful at breaking through.

Sounds like our coaches made a great adjustment to help get the playoff win.

 

[Appleyard]

JvR has played with 6 C's somewhat regularly this year.

He was at least "decent" with 5/6.

 

[Chinatown88]

It's another afternoon game. Son of a biscuit.

 

[DancingPanther]

So close! Thompson roulette rolls on. He absolutely can't see 10 mins tonight

 

[Rebels57]

I mean, unless you are playing JVR in the top 6/top 9, then Thompson definitely has more value.

At this point, I would put JVR in the top 6 for a game.

G/C/V
JVR/Hayes/TK
Farabee/Laughton/NAK
Raffl/Thompson or Grant/Pitlick

 

[Fire Tortorella]

One is a decent player.

One is a turd

I don’t disagree with wanting more from JVR, he was very impressive during the regular season.

What more could you expect from him? Separate the contract from the player. He's a good complimentary player on a scoring line and a good PP player. So how are we using him? Put him with slop at ES and on PP2.

He's not being put into a position to succeed.

 

[Appleyard]

All three goals for this series have came with Giroux and Couturier on ice.


The first line has taken some heat. But the team has played like 120 minutes without either on ice... and scored zero times.

 

[marcsson68]

Sounds like our coaches made a great adjustment to help get the playoff win.

That was my first thought as well. Probably both teams are being coached well in this series (which is something many posters find hard to accept). With the exception of our PP of course.

 

[Petr Svoboda Mullet]

What more could you expect from him? Separate the contract from the player. He's a good complimentary player on a scoring line and a good PP player. So how are we using him? Put him with slop at ES and on PP2.

He's not being put into a position to succeed.

Bingo. The second line has been ass. Why not slot JVR on the second line, bump Laughton to 3C and bench Thompson?