bennysflyers16
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Is that from yesterday ??? Insane.
Although it did appear he was getting alot of D zone draws ??
Post-Game Talk: ECQF 3 (Flyers lead series 2-1): FLYERS 1 vs. Canadiens 0, Sunday, Aug. 16, 2020
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Is that from yesterday ??? Insane.
Although it did appear he was getting alot of D zone draws ??
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I also hope a light bulb goes off, and it's not impossible. Like I said with the early days of Hak, coaches develop too. Hak eventually showed he was too stubborn to learn or develop at all. AV is by default more flexible.
We saw Lavi stubbornly refuse to adapt to roster realities here, only to show up in Nashville having made adjustments showing he learned from limitations here. Trotz was very much like AV. He would gameplan not just for individual teams through the regular season, but for individual games, like if there was a back-to-back and he noticed some stuff. Then in the playoffs that would stop and he'd try to force one plan down the opposition's throat, and for years he failed. The year he succeeded was the one where he treated playoffs like he treated the regular season.
So I have hope that AV can stop the goofiness that has hobbled him for ages. A coach that has demonstrated he can adjust between periods should have the capacity to do that.
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Jtown
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i am listening. IN fact I am the only poster asking you questions to expand upon your posts . Meaning not only have a i read your posts but i am prodding for even more information from you. I know you're not limiting this to coaches, i just am reminding you of what you already know that anytime a member of the flyers organization meets with a player that is considered a team activity and there are hard set rules on the amount of team interactions a player can have with their organization over the course of a week and month.
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You mean when Deangelo was 22.
At 21, in Arizona, CF 45.77%, xGF 41.50%.
So it's not surprising he went back to the AHL again for more seasoning.
2017-18, 8 games in the NHL, then was sent down, came back up January 20.
Played 24 of the last 36 games.
Then started the next season - pretty typical for a young defenseman.
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Yup. And the game before wasnt any better:
It always intrigues me when people make arguments, then find out the player theyre arguing for actually is worse than the player they were arguing against, especially as it relates to their own 'stamp of approval' in terms of metrics.
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Thompson has 58 shifts on the fly by the way. 9 OZ, 22 NZ, & 12 DZ draws.
30.97 CF%
-18.50 CF% rel
43.41 xG%
-5.99 xG% rel
Woof.
30.97 CF%
-18.50 CF% rel
43.41 xG%
-5.99 xG% rel
Woof.
Jtown
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morgan stats are from a full season. this picture i imagine is from a single game? what game is that?
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What he fails to mention is that those Deangelo stats are while he was on an Arizona team that overall had a 45.04 CF% and 42.40 xGF%.
Jtown
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does all situations include pk? it will be hard to derive any meaningful interpretation of that stat if that is the case.
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I dont care about a full season. I care about here and now. Over the course of a full season, you play against different opponents, and you dont have time to make adjustments - or at least, not imapctful ones.
Here's the first game of this series too. Im sensing a theme.
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Jtown
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hockey reference and natural stat trick are wildly different . i dont know what to say.
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Thompson's in-season stats on the Flyers are worse than Frost's, too.
And that's with Thompson rocking a huge 109 PDO
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How is it possible that there's even a Frost vs Thompson conversation happening?
It's 2020.
It's 2020.
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Starat327
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Game 1 5 on 5, 86% start, -7 rel. Well below youre 60% and "barely positive" threshold.
Game 2: 50% oz and a -20 rel. Also well below your standards
Game 3: I'm sure this will surprise you, so ill make sure i post this one too. 86% oz and a -11 corsirel
You were saying something about Frost's 60 oz and "barely positive" corsirel, though?
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Because some people will do anything they can to defend "hockey guy" culture. Or coaches. cant forget that. Gotta make sure you are knob-slobbing coaches decisions, because one day, he may call you up and ask if you want an autograph - but only if you blindly followed and agreed with every one of his decisions.
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deadhead
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How many teams are playing more starters under the age of 25?
And we have two who are injured.
Flyers (7), NAK, TK, Farabee, Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Hart [Hagg, Bunnaman are not starters]
Caps (2)
Pens (3)
Carolina (6)
CBJ (8)
NYI (2)
Bos (6)
TB (5)
Mon (7) if you count Evans
STL (2)
Col (10)
Dal (4)
WIN (6)
Nash (2)
Min (5)
CHI (7)
VGK (4)
EDM (6)
CAL (6)
VAN (7)
AZ (6)
Starat327
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Much like Jojo, Im gonna hard pass. I don't honestly need statistics to show me how bad Thompson has been. This was just a simple exercise that was already too great a waste of time, if we're being honest.
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I think we largely agree on things.
I would disagree on some of the details, but in the end, that's the kind of stuff I'd rather shoot the breeze about over bevvies in a crowded pre-Covid bar!
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And yet we are still struggling because we choose to rely on garbage veterans instead of playing obviously superior youth. Our GM and coach have decided Grant and Thompson are Magical Veterans. The same as it ever was.
