ACC1224
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Pretty much begging to join Marner in Toronto.
Wonder what it would take?
Wonder what it would take?
Value of: Dylan Larkin
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Namikaze Minato
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Yep, youre hardly the first person to pretend that.
wintersej
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Eggtimer
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i just can’t see Larkin not being a Redwing here.
Just for kicks, I wonder if NJ would make an offer on him IF he is available and IF we lose out on Meier.
Mo way I can see it happen but not sure what else NJ would do. After Meier , there is no one that fits Fitz’s MO ( Young , can be a long term option , no rentals , Larkin fits with NJ stlye of play )
Only thing is don’t need to pay the premium for a C when we have two bery good ones already.
Id say there is more of a chance that the Ducks win the cup this year than Larkin gettig traded to my team.
Just for kicks, I wonder if NJ would make an offer on him IF he is available and IF we lose out on Meier.
Mo way I can see it happen but not sure what else NJ would do. After Meier , there is no one that fits Fitz’s MO ( Young , can be a long term option , no rentals , Larkin fits with NJ stlye of play )
Only thing is don’t need to pay the premium for a C when we have two bery good ones already.
Id say there is more of a chance that the Ducks win the cup this year than Larkin gettig traded to my team.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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I'm not pretending anything, It's a pure fact, outside of Knies you don't have anything within your organization to offer us for Larkin.
A vast majority of your prospects would be rock bottom in Detroit's organizational depth.
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ACC1224
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I don't blame him.
There isn't a player in the league that wouldn't want to be on a line with Marner.
Namikaze Minato
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I think Yzerman would be in tears after Marner's dad ruined his planned salary structure by asking for 14 million
Right, but it’s often not viewed as money in the bank by the public. The 8th year is seen through a team centric lens; a team can get a discount others can’t. It’d be interesting to know how it’s viewed by teams privately.
A player should take it if he can get it at a fair number. 7 years isn’t a catastrophic loss, however. Tavares, Panarin, Duchene, Pietrangelo and Gaudreau all went to free agency over the past 5 years.
Forget practicality for a moment, a 2 or 3 year split would have made a choice much more interesting.
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I didn't say it happens often. You said it never happens which is just factually incorrect.
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wintersej
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You gotta think that Larkin should get over 9 after Horvat's deal, right?
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I'd guess between 8.5 and 9. If the report that his agent was asking for 9 is correct, you have to think the meet in the middle is closer to 9 than 8.
I immediately thought something might with Larkin soon when I saw this.
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Why? There is no way Yzerman pays him more than 8.5 now that Horvat is signed at 8.5, especially with Yzerman eyeing Horvat before he went to the Isle.
Why wouldn’t Larkin just ask Detroit for a lot (like 9.5-10) and see what happens? He’s got the no trade clause in his current contract so he has all the power. Yzerman has literally none.
Yzerman has 3 options to choose from:
1. Give Larkin what he demands
2. Trade Larkin before the deadline to where Larkin chooses. Which means Yzerman will only get what the teams Larkin chooses offer.
3. Let Larkin go to UFA and run the risk of losing him for nothing.
Is there something like a bridge offer that I’m missing?
Yzerman has 3 options to choose from:
1. Give Larkin what he demands
2. Trade Larkin before the deadline to where Larkin chooses. Which means Yzerman will only get what the teams Larkin chooses offer.
3. Let Larkin go to UFA and run the risk of losing him for nothing.
Is there something like a bridge offer that I’m missing?
deca guard
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exactly = teams can lose franchise making players for nothing , a ridiculous system . but the league doesnt care because the same amount of money still comes into the nhl , it just goes to the team that signs the ufa and improves . the fans that pay to back the red wings get ripped off . my fix is the team is given an additional draft pick according to players worth . say in this case an extra pick is added to 1st round making it 33 picks , with detroit getting say the 9th pick . so detroit doesnt get ripped off , and larkin is free to do what he wants . and the team that woulda drafted 9 just drafts 10
I dont mind this as a thought exercise, but 9 seems way too high.
Lets say if a guy hits above a certain threshold (ppg %? Total points over last 3 years?) and walks in FA, teams get a picn between the 1st and 2nd round, the order depending on who has the highest point % among all players that qualify.
deca guard
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yes the degree of compensation could be debated . but one point ide add in larkins particular case is points arent everything . in this players case he is a high level puck rusher that gains the zone then makes effective passes constantly (not his fault all his career hes had untalented teammates that couldnt finish the chances he creates) . giant motor and huge wheels that get him north n south constantly , monster fore and back checker . excellent leader on / off ice . has averaged like 60 points per on a very weak team entire career , anybody thats watched him play on units including abdelkader-aa-mantha-dekeyser-ericcson-green-vanek-etc knows his pain . and with his wheels hes has ruggedness to him to deal with heavy and or dirty traffic . hes also clutch af . i admit i might have homer glasses on as ive watched every nhl game larks has played and become a huge fan of his spirited all out game so i might be over rating .
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Or.... Or... he likes playing with really talented players and he had fun during the All-Star break with it. He played with P. Kane at the Jim Johansson exhibition and seemed to have a blast... He didn't seem to be stumping to go to Chicago. Larkin's just a dude who likes playing hockey at a high level.
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wintersej
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Compensation picks depress salaries. What are you giving up to the union to make your plan work?
Well Larkin’s agent should and he has a clear clear clear recent data point now to point to signed by a player who isn’t as good.
Perratrooper
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From Colorado perspective I’d easily give up Newhook+2024 first for Larkin with the hope that he signs a Horvat type contract.
deca guard
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teams spending thee extremely important asset of a draft pick which is their life blood that they can then lose through no fault of their own isnt a problem to you ??
