Friedman: Dylan Larkin requests trade, Part II

[Silky mitts]

You will get Lyon Mcleod and a second and like it.

Is that DLC for the new Starfox game?

 

[TageGod]

Is that DLC for the new Starfox game?

Ya bro has an older, larger brother.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

He’s obviously going to Minnesota.

He wants to go there, fills a huge need, fits easily into their style of play as well as their locker room with the team USA guys, and they have the necessary young assets.

Do they though?

 

[GreatGordie9]

Do they though?

I think the Wings would get a better return for Larkin if they deal with the Mammoth.

 

[Al Lagoon]

That doesn't mean he's going to take a terrible offer for Larkin just to move him, but the package Yzerman will get back for Larkin will absolutely be less than Wings fans here are expecting. Using Utah as an example, I think it will be something along the lines of Hayton, Beaudoin, Lamoureaux and a 1st. More or less the equivalent of 4 late 1sts. Or using Minnesota, make it Yurov, Strammel and 2 1sts.

Detroit fans would expect MORE than Yurov, Stramel, and 2 1sts?

That's 4 1sts total, which is what it took to get Quinn Hughes.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think the problem is that trading him sort of signals the Yzerplan has failed. Steve obviously doesn't want to move him. They're trying to win now.

You think that he wants to move him? TBH, Larkin leaving might actually be good for Detroit long term. But I feel like short term they obviously don't want to make that move.

I'm sure Yzerman doesn't think it's ideal that he has to trade his 1C.

... I also bet he's ecstatic that Dylan Larkin wont be his captain anymore.

 

[deca guard]

i still cant sleep at nite after the walman + 2nd for futures , and the 1st+3rd+butchy trade for a 35 year old . praying to the hockey gods for a package of blue chip prospect + 1st rd pick . with both of gibson n faulk traded for same type return of prospect and or pick

 

[Empoleon8771]

Detroit fans would expect MORE than Yurov, Stramel, and 2 1sts?

I mean honestly based on what they've been saying in these threads? Yeah

I saw a Red Wings fan say that 4 late 1sts was a terrible offer for Larkin in the last thread.

 

[Oddbob]

Who is civil and why is he worth Larkin in a trade?

That is Theodore Civil of course. He has great skills, he just need to put it all together.

 

[Al Lagoon]

I mean honestly based on what they've been saying in these threads? Yeah

I saw a Red Wings fan say that 4 late 1sts was a terrible offer for Larkin in the last thread.

Well, I guess they are going to be disappointed then.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Detroit fans would expect MORE the Yurov, Stramel, and 2 1sts?

The problem with the Minnesota offer that keeps getting tossed about isn't that it's not good total value. It's that no particular one of those assets really wows you, and Yurov and Stramel basically have no more potential than guys we already have in Kasper and Danielson.

We've essentially got a 1C and two guys that we hope are middle 6 centers. Larkin for that package trades our 1C to add even more guys who cap out at middle 6 centers.

Minnesota doesn't have a whole lot of flexibility in what they can offer, and what they can offer is stuff Detroit already has enough of.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

That's my philosophy in life too. Kick them while they're down.

Punching down is the alpha way

 

[Oddbob]

I don't think it's true that Yzerman held onto St. Louis for a while after his trade request. It became official that St. Louis demanded a trade on February 26th, 2014. He was traded to the Rangers on March 5th, 2014, so exactly a week later. I don't think Yzerman has shown he's the type to let this run into next year and let it be a potential distraction, I think Larkin is definitely gone in the off-season.

That doesn't mean he's going to take a terrible offer for Larkin just to move him, but the package Yzerman will get back for Larkin will absolutely be less than Wings fans here are expecting. Using Utah as an example, I think it will be something along the lines of Hayton, Beaudoin, Lamoureaux and a 1st. More or less the equivalent of 4 late 1sts. Or using Minnesota, make it Yurov, Strammel and 2 1sts.

Stuff was brewing between Yzerman and MSL long before he got traded or made his demand public.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Stuff was brewing between Yzerman and MSL long before he got traded or made his demand public.

The relationship turned to shit the second MSL was left off Team Canada.

 

[Oddbob]

Detroit fans would expect MORE than Yurov, Stramel, and 2 1sts?

That's 4 1sts total, which is what it took to get Quinn Hughes.

2 late 1sts for both players and Yurov in particular doesn't seem all that promising at all. Minny doesn't really have anything overly appealing from Wings fans perspective and I don't think other teams fans would be happy with that either for a very good #1C either.

 

[atlanticobserver]

2 late 1sts for both players and Yurov in particular doesn't seem all that promising at all. Minny doesn't really have anything overly appealing from Wings fans perspective and I don't think other teams fans would be happy with that either for a very good #1C either.

It's totally reasonable to be unhappy about this whole ordeal, but chances are that potential Minnesota offer is gonna be as good as it gets or close to it

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The problem with the Minnesota offer that keeps getting tossed about isn't that it's not good total value. It's that no particular one of those assets really wows you, and Yurov and Stramel basically have no more potential than guys we already have in Kasper and Danielson.

We've essentially got a 1C and two guys that we hope are middle 6 centers. Larkin for that package trades our 1C to add even more guys who cap out at middle 6 centers.

Minnesota doesn't have a whole lot of flexibility in what they can offer, and what they can offer is stuff Detroit already has enough of.

Is the expectation that you solve your new 1C issue within the Larkin trade?

It sounds like the path for a Detroit/Minnesota trade runs through Vancouver, assuming it's correct that Detroit is interested in EP.

To Detroit - Pettersson
To Minnesota - Larkin
To Vancouver - Yurov, Middleton (cap), 1st, something

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Is the expectation that you solve your new 1C issue within the Larkin trade?

Short of landing Desnoyers (Yes I realize people don't think that's happening, and it's probably not) and hoping for the best, I don't think that's possible.

But personally I'd rather hack off a first round pick and get a prospect with a better ceiling than Yurov or Stramel. Ideally, it's a center. Second best thing would probably be a LHD.

 

[ctmagic]

Since we have a new thread, can someone remind me how many consecutive 30g seasons Larkin has had?

Also, how do Detroit fans feel about Stramel and a 1st for Larkin?

 

[Oddbob]

It's totally reasonable to be unhappy about this whole ordeal, but chances are that potential Minnesota offer is gonna be as good as it gets or close to it

Oh, I fully expect to be disappointed with the return, but Yurov, 1st rounder and something else is not good at all. Utah has far more attractive pieces and Larkin has apparently said he is ok going there.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Since we have a new thread, can someone remind me how many consecutive 30g seasons Larkin has had?

Also, how do Detroit fans feel about Stramel and a 1st for Larkin?

I was gonna start an over/under on number of posts before you dropped the phrase "Locker room cancer".

 

[Oddbob]

Is the expectation that you solve your new 1C issue within the Larkin trade?

It sounds like the path for a Detroit/Minnesota trade runs through Vancouver, assuming it's correct that Detroit is interested in EP.

To Detroit - Pettersson
To Minnesota - Larkin
To Vancouver - Yurov, Middleton (cap), 1st, something

Gross. I wouldn't give anything high end for Pettersson with the way he is playing and his current cap hit. Certainly not Larkin.

 

[Oddbob]

Since we have a new thread, can someone remind me how many consecutive 30g seasons Larkin has had?

Also, how do Detroit fans feel about Stramel and a 1st for Larkin?

Bad, to real bad.

 

[SiempreSalvaje]

Since we have a new thread, can someone remind me how many consecutive 30g seasons Larkin has had?

Also, how do Detroit fans feel about Stramel and a 1st for Larkin?

In case you missed it from the first thread, Wings fans have made it clear that Larkin is a soft, narcissistic, aging locker room cancer low end 3c/elite 4c who will only be traded for a Mckenna level prospect. If the return is anything less than that, then Yzerman will just hold onto Larkin and force him to play while wearing a dunce cap until he expands his list.

 

[Leo2Cutter]

Since we have a new thread, can someone remind me how many consecutive 30g seasons Larkin has had?

Also, how do Detroit fans feel about Stramel and a 1st for Larkin?

It was 7 1 of only 5 players to do so

Comparable to Mcdavid in terms of value