Player Discussion Dylan Cozens, C/RW, 2019 7th overall Part 2

[Diaspora]

Do we gotta start a GoFundMe?

 

[Chainshot]

Worth it.

 

[Dingo44]

Do we gotta start a GoFundMe?

They'll just take your money and then send it to someone else they feel is more worthy - like Brad Marchand.

 

[joshjull]

What a joke

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I'm a little surprised he didn't get a game TBH

 

[Fezzy126]

Worth it.

It seems that Sabres twitter doesn't have the same appreciation of Cozens actions that we do

What Dylan did and continues to do is absolutely necessary in establishing an identity for this young group, and also helps to pull them closer as a group. Openly disregarding the physical and intimidation side of the game is just as bad as the old school guys that completely ignore the analytics.

Side note: It would be really interesting seeing Sabres twitter react to the Lindy "Go out and run 'em" game.

 

[WiHockeyGuy]

Let 'em cry. We need some bastards on our team.

 

[cybresabre]

It seems that Sabres twitter doesn't have the same appreciation of Cozens actions that we do

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What Dylan did and continues to do is absolutely necessary in establishing an identity for this young group, and also helps to pull them closer as a group. Openly disregarding the physical and intimidation side of the game is just as bad as the old school guys that completely ignore the analytics.

Side note: It would be really interesting seeing Sabres twitter react to the Lindy "Go out and run 'em" game.

Yeah, there's a big difference between this and trying to injure Jack to be vindictive, and also a big difference between this and potentially paralyzing someone by boarding them headfirst into a wall. It's a punk play to hit someone from behind, but it was a punk play to hit someone in the nuts from behind. Better to get bullied and address it immediately than wait for a shift down the road to hit him hard and whisper "that was for my nuts," as he picks himself up. Of course, there's plenty of time to still do that, but it won't have the same corrective behavior as an immediate response.

 

[Buffaloed]

I'm a little surprised he didn't get a game TBH

It shows the Sabres are making progress when they can get away with something that real NHL teams get away with all the time.

 

[Fearnot]

Do we gotta start a GoFundMe?

givesendgo

 

[The Blunder Years]

It seems that Sabres twitter doesn't have the same appreciation of Cozens actions that we do

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What Dylan did and continues to do is absolutely necessary in establishing an identity for this young group, and also helps to pull them closer as a group. Openly disregarding the physical and intimidation side of the game is just as bad as the old school guys that completely ignore the analytics.

Side note: It would be really interesting seeing Sabres twitter react to the Lindy "Go out and run 'em" game.

Idk if anyone else agrees but I can’t stand Joe Yerdon. Guy just seems like a whiner.

Did these guys not watch the last 10 years of Sabres players hanging their heads and avoiding confrontation when the opposition gets chippy?!

 

[DapperCam]

It wasn't really that close to the boards, I don't think Nelson was in danger there. I think fans are okay with the response, because we have been soft forever. It seems like it is always other teams taking liberties with our players and not the other way around. And there never seems to be a response. How many goalies have lost time the past 2 seasons due to injuries from opponents falling on them or hitting them in the helmet?

For example Stamkos smoked Cozens in the head with a cheap shot earlier this year that was 100x more dangerous. No discipline from the league. I would have no issue if the team would have immediately responded to that (which they didn't of course).

 

[Fezzy126]

Idk if anyone else agrees but I can’t stand Joe Yerdon. Guy just seems like a whiner.

Did these guys not watch the last 10 years of Sabres players hanging their heads and avoiding confrontation when the opposition gets chippy?!

I like Joe and his work, I really do. I actually like all of the guys that I clipped in that snapshot, but sometimes they get caught up in the spreadsheet analysis of the game. Yes, some things matter more than others in game analysis, but people forget that everything DOES matter in the grand scheme of things.

Anyone that has played hockey knows that benches are very aware of the physical element of game. When you play against a finesse team you'll often hear things like this from the bench:
"Just lean on these guys, they don't like contact, they'll start playing timid"
"That guy dangling and toe-dragging thru us, give him a couple whacks on his hands, he'll fall apart"
"After every whistle give that guy a nudge, he gets frustrated easily"

Imagine giving a guy a nut shot and then casually skating back to your bench without repercussions. I guarantee at that moment the Isles bench would know that they own these kids. Cozens knew better than to let that slide.

There's a mental aspect, a physical aspect, and a talent aspect to the game, and last night Cozens absolutely got all 3 right.

 

[Chainshot]

It wasn't really that close to the boards, I don't think Nelson was in danger there. I think fans are okay with the response, because we have been soft forever. It seems like it is always other teams taking liberties with our players and not the other way around. And there never seems to be a response. How many goalies have lost time the past 2 seasons due to injuries from opponents falling on them or hitting them in the helmet?

For example Stamkos smoked Cozens in the head with a cheap shot earlier this year that was 100x more dangerous. No discipline from the league. I would have no issue if the team would have immediately responded to that (which they didn't of course).

I'd still not mind if Cozens tunes Stamkos up in some fashion in the future. But I'm that way - I admit, I hold a grudge.

 

[Matt Ress]

It seems that Sabres twitter doesn't have the same appreciation of Cozens actions that we do

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What Dylan did and continues to do is absolutely necessary in establishing an identity for this young group, and also helps to pull them closer as a group. Openly disregarding the physical and intimidation side of the game is just as bad as the old school guys that completely ignore the analytics.

Side note: It would be really interesting seeing Sabres twitter react to the Lindy "Go out and run 'em" game.

"Everyone gets a trophy" crew

 

[Chainshot]

I like Joe and his work, I really do. I actually like all of the guys that I clipped in that snapshot, but sometimes they get caught up in the spreadsheet analysis of the game. Yes, some things matter more than others in game analysis, but people forget that everything DOES matter in the grand scheme of things.

Anyone that has played hockey knows that benches are very aware of the physical element of game. When you play against a finesse team you'll often hear things like this from the bench:
"Just lean on these guys, they don't like contact, they'll start playing timid"
"That guy dangling and toe-dragging thru us, give him a couple whacks on his hands, he'll fall apart"
"After every whistle give that guy a nudge, he gets frustrated easily"

Imagine giving a guy a nut shot and then casually skating back to your bench without repercussions. I guarantee at that moment the Isles bench would know that they own these kids. Cozens knew better than to let that slide.

There's a mental aspect, a physical aspect, and a talent aspect to the game, and last night Cozens absolutely got all 3 right.

Agreed. The game is very much about creating and taking space from others. We know some players will not be interested in going near someone who will give it back. That creates space, separation, and opportunity. It's how little, pointy players like Audette and Briere were able to go into the trees around the net and get away with it sometimes -- they were going to jab, slash, and spear their way to clearing space around them.

Give it back, take no shit. And yes, it's dirty. And that is part of the game. Stop being f***ing patsies.

 

[ORRFForever]

2 points for the big kid.

 

[Chainshot]

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Plays well with Okposo, get him another player similar next season but with more speed and maybe he will breakthrough ?

 

[Matt Ress]

Plays well with Okposo, get him another player similar next season but with more speed and maybe he will breakthrough ?

Get him a good center...

 

[Chainshot]

As an aside in that Cozens video, that's the most I've seen Bjork compete for a puck ever.

 

[DapperCam]

Can’t help but feel Cozens has a lot of untapped potential still (even with being over 0.5 p/g). I think he should have spent a lot more time in Rochester, but that ship has probably sailed.

 

[joshjull]

Can’t help but feel Cozens has a lot of untapped potential still (even with being over 0.5 p/g). I think he should have spent a lot more time in Rochester, but that ship has probably sailed.

Of course he has untapped potential. He’s only 21 (on Feb 9th) and is playing in his first full NHL season.

I’m not sure what the Rochester comments are about. He never played there.

 

[ORRFForever]

A 2nd assist.

 

[BG82]

Cozens flashes enough to give me hope as a top 9 forward. Inconsistency was expected for his age