Dwight King Question re: Arbitration

[Little Psycho]

lisa dillman ‏@reallisa 1m
Per NHLPA, Dwight King (LAK) among those to elect salary arbitration. Hearings in Toronto, July 20-Aug. 4.

Can't say the Kings will miss him if he goes.

 

[kingsholygrail]

The Kings won't give him any amazing amount, so he will likely be gone if they vote in his favor.

 

[Reclamation Project]

"Never go against the family..."

 

[Captain Mittens*]

"Never go against the family..."

Gold!

 

[CTKingsFan]

No big deal at all.

Expected actually. Last year Martinez, Muzzin, Nolan, and Lewis all filed for arbitration. All signed contracts without going to arbitration.

 

[rajuabju]

If it gets settled prior to the hearing, great. If not, King is a goner.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Zack Kassian's latest contract helps Dwight King's cause if he's looking for a similar contract at 2 years, $1.75M. Both have posted similar numbers and played a similar role moving up and down the lineup.

Other comparables could be Marcus Kruger, who got a 2-year deal last summer worth $1.325M per, and possibly Lars Eller who also earned the exact contract as Kruger last summer.

 

[HYORI 1963]

To be fair I think folks were less concerned about those due to the relative abundance of cap space. King's arbitration threatens our limited breathing room this year, it's much more impactful.

This is a valid point. I don't ever recall tracking a RFA kings player to see if he'll file for arbitration.

I still say trade King. With Andreoff out of options, someone should be moved.

 

[CowMix]

Lewis is going to get so much ice time if King is moved

 

[HYORI 1963]

King will probably be a HS if Richards is back at 2C.

 

[regulate]

This is just all part of the negotiation process. Happens every year. No big deal.

 

[alpa]

Correct me if I'm right.

Dean can tell King; -This is the amount we can give you, if you however reject our offer we feel we need to get something for you so we will trade you before the arbitration and then some more blabla.

 

[Basilisk]

Lombardi does NOT like it when players opt for arbitration. Those players tend to leave the organization rather quickly. Whatever the arbiters decide, King won't be a King next season.....





EDIT: UNLESS a deal can be worked out BEFORE the arbiters become involved.....

 

[HYORI 1963]

Why do I have a feeling this one is going to end differently??? Hope I'm right...

 

[alpa]

Correct me if I'm right.

Dean can tell King; -This is the amount we can give you, if you however reject our offer we feel we need to get something for you so we will trade you before the arbitration and then some more blabla.

****ing ****!! I guess I was wrong then.

 

[CowMix]

Do players ever get traded during the period of opting into arbitration before the actual arbitration?

 

[Trolfoli]

Time to lock him up long term DL!!!! Go 2.5 for 4 years!!!


I just want to see peoples heads explode.

 

[niomosy]

Time to lock him up long term DL!!!! Go 2.5 for 4 years!!!


I just want to see peoples heads explode.

With career point / goal highs on the 3rd line.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Time to lock him up long term DL!!!! Go 2.5 for 4 years!!!


I just want to see peoples heads explode.

not funny

 

[alpa]

If Dwight King elects arbitration this is what will happen.

If Los Angeles elects a one year term and the awarded amount is over 3.5 million the team can walk away from the contract making King a UFA. If it is under 3.5 million the team has no walk away rights and the contract must be ratified at awarded amount. There are no restrictions on subsequent movement of King.

If Los Angeles elects a two year term and the awarded amount is over 3.5 million the team can walk away from the first year of the contract but will still be forced to sign a 1 year deal at the arbitration amount. If it's under 3.5 million the team must sign the two year deal at awarded amount. Either way there are no restrictions on movement of Kings.

I cannot find any restrictions on trading leading up to arbitration either. And of course once King starts arbitration on July 5th the Kings and King can still negotiate up until arbitration day. Los Angeles cannot trade King during the week to decide whether to walk away from King if the award is over 3.5 million.

After reading this.

Dean can tell King; -This is the amount we can give you, if you however reject our offer we feel we need to get something for you so we will trade you before the arbitration and then some more blabla.

Correct?

 

[kingsfan]

After reading this.

Dean can tell King; -This is the amount we can give you, if you however reject our offer we feel we need to get something for you so we will trade you before the arbitration and then some more blabla.

Correct?

That's what I'd do, though I'd try to negotiate below the max we can offer.

I like King, but I don't see 20 goal seasons in his future, something I do see for Kassian. So if King wants to use the Kassian deal as a comparible, I'd just start shopping him now. King has earned the right to go for a bigger payday, but we've earned the right to not give it to him either. For $1.75 million on the open market or trade market we can find a similar replacement I'm sure.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Assuming that Richards plays 2C, just where do you guys see King playing?

 

[kingsfan]

Assuming that Richards plays 2C, just where do you guys see King playing?

Like 90% of this line up, anywhere for 2nd line to 4th line. Sutter mixes things up more often than a speed dating gathering.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Like 90% of this line up, anywhere for 2nd line to 4th line. Sutter mixes things up more often than a speed dating gathering.

Just out of curiosity, can you make the lineup with Richards at 2C? I just want to see where you would place King.

 

[Ron*]

Like 90% of this line up, anywhere for 2nd line to 4th line. Sutter mixes things up more often than a speed dating gathering.

But you can't deny that by doing confused the **** out of the Rangers.