Dumba hit on Pavelski

[ThatGuy22]

The head snaps back before any body contact is made so the head was the first and primary point of contact. The body contact rule is supposed to cover cases where there is shoulder to chest or body to chest contact and the force of that collision propels the player into the head contact. That's not what happened here, Under the Shanahan version of DOPS this would have rightly been given a significant suspension.

Under Parros the rule was reinterpreted so that hitting the head is ok so long as you get the body afterwards, which is stupid dangerous wrt concussions. It doesn't matter if it's stupid, and dangerous it's how the NHL does it now so I don't think there will be any consequences other than players with brain injuries that is.

Your wrong or lying. I cant speak to your motivations. The head being so close to the torso as long as contact is followed through the body it's been deemed clean. Has been for a decade. Dozens of examples, that led to threads like this because people don't understand the rules.

Players hunch forward when they skate, it's the nature of the biz.

 

[Cypher]

Good hockey hit, keep your head up kid, it's playoff hockey

 

[bov]

Good hit, shoulder to shoulder. I'm surprised that Pavelski didnt seem to anticipate contact there. Guys finish checks every single game just as late, if not later, and I don't see this as a blindside hit.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

I was pumped for the playoffs.

But that non call just reminded me of the prehistoric mentality still prevailing in the NHL, even among fans, about the way head shots and concussions should be considered. Just say "playoffs hockey" and suddenly testosterone and caveman violence matter more than health, life and death.

I closed my TV right after that call. This nonsense is slowly pushing me away from hockey.

And then you went immediately to an NHL hockey forum? It sure pushed you far I see

 

[ThatGuy22]

Wild are in the wrong...

 

[Steerpike]

One thing I absolutely despise is when analysts watch something in super slow-mo and then go: "oh yeah, the puck is looooonnng gone."

IT'S SLOW MO. THAT'S HOW SLOW MO WORKS. YOU CAN'T BASE YOUR IMPRESSION OF INTENT OR THE SPEED AT WHICH SOMETHING HAPPENED BY WATCHING SLOW MOTION VIDEO.

 

[Xirik]

Good hockey hit, keep your head up kid, it's playoff hockey

Giving advice to a veteran player who is 38 years old and not a kid.

 

[Shocker]

I don't like Dumba, but that's at max a 2min penalty with an unfortunate outcome.

Reminded me of the Sharks-Vegas fall Pavelski had and pretty sure it's the reason why we have reviews for majors now.

 

[604]

2mins seems like the correct call imo. Unfortunate but it’s not a headshot.

Late hit leading to injury.

Should’ve been 5 mins for interference.

 

[mouser]

So many posts saying the hit was late.

All the good video angles I’ve seen have been in slowmo. From my eye the distance between the players between the time the puck was released and Dumba hits Pavelski could have been within the window where Pavelski was still legal to be hit.

Has anyone done a timer or frame count to confirm the hit was actually late?

 

[Ovi895]

Probably not the hit you want to make when you're a one man team and your one man just came back from injury himself

 

[JPeeper]

How is that even a 2 minute penalty?

That's straight up shoulder to shoulder.

 

[Terry Yake]

textbook hit right there

 

[jonlin]

A hit that late should always be a major. You cant expect to be rammed like that without the puck. If this is legal and clean according to some fans, then hitting unexpecting players outside the play is ok.

 

[OVO16]

Clean hit. Unfortunate result

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Clean, almost late but not late

 

[Score08]

Clean hit

 

[kingsholygrail]

Just ran him over. Damn.

 

[Teppo]

Probably not the hit you want to make when you're a one man team and your one man just came back from injury himself

How did that team do in the 13 games where their "one man" wasn't playing?

 

[Score08]

Higher quality source would be nice but looks like the head snaps back first.

Yes from a stick bouncing off his face.

 

[Garbo Man]

The worst part about the hit was the fact that(and it's unfortunate that this happened) 2 separate sticks(Pavelski's and someone else's, not Dumba's) hit him right in the side of the head which is probably a big reason why he's out before he hits the ice. Might be SLIGHTLY late but nothing more than a 2 for Interference. Right call would be to reduce it to 2min, and you hate to see it but it's just an unfortunate result

 

[TaLoN]

Does this draw attention from the league? Called a 5 min major. Edit: They reviewed and called this back as 2 for roughing

Clean. They even reviewed it on the ice and deemed it clean. ESPN's ref on the broadcast deemed it clean.

Welcome to the playoffs. It's a man's game

 

[Duder54]

Bad outcome, but seems like just bad luck for Pavelski on the hit. Hate to see injuries like that.

 

[Stubu]

The very worst case scenario, this was Pavelski's last NHL game. He sure deserves a better send off.

 

[Carl Hungus]

All part of the min playbook