Dumba hit on Pavelski

[MuckOG]

OK.

What does that have to do with anything I've said?

It was a legal body check, with an unfortunate injury resulting when Pavelski's head hit the ice. Whats your point?

 

[Minnewildsota]

OK.

What does that have to do with anything I've said?


One skate is on the ice. The one he is using to pushoff of into the hit.

Apparently, Dumba hit him like this:

 

[3074326]

Is this the kind of hockey you guys defending the hit like? You want to see "legal" hits with intent to injure?

I hate it. Yeah, I think it's legal. I also think it's as dirty as can be. You don't make that hit unless you're trying to scramble someone's brains.

No issues with the call itself though according to the rules. I think this shit takes away from the on-ice product.

 

[SensontheRush]

It was a legal hit, with an unfortunate injury resulting when Pavelski's head hit the ice. Whats your point?

Analysis.

 

[MuckOG]

Analysis.

Ok

 

[SensontheRush]

Apparently, Dumba hit him like this:

Kinda, and timed perfectly.

 

[Kaner9]

Good hit and tbh you love to see it

 

[coolboarder]

My neutral opinion, the issue with the hit is that the puck has already left and should have been an interference major penalty as he doesn't have the puck with him. The whole original purpose of making a body check is to separate the puck from the man and the puck is not even in his possession. Dumba should have been made example so that others know what is acceptable and what is not. This is a perfect example. This is more of a headhunting targeted hit which should have been made illegal, imo. The big issue is that the league need to do more to protect their own players from this concussion issues and if the league doesn't protect their own players then it is on them. They need to step in, imo.

 

[AKL]

My neutral opinion, the issue with the hit is that the puck has already left and should have been an interference major penalty as he doesn't have the puck with him. The whole original purpose of making a body check is to separate the puck from the man and the puck is not even in his possession. Dumba should have been made example so that others know what is acceptable and what is not. This is a perfect example. This is more of a headhunting targeted hit which should have been made illegal, imo. The big issue is that the league need to do more to protect their own players from this concussion issues and if the league doesn't protect their own players then it is on them. They need to step in, imo.

The NHL has allowed guys to finish their checks since the dawn of time. Watch a game and see how many hits are on guys who just recently got rid of the puck.

 

[rynryn]

a game where they called every hit where the player didn't have possession of the puck at the exact time of the hit would be unwatchable, as they'd have to do the f***ing off-sides like review every goddamn time anyone hit anyone.

 

[coolboarder]

The NHL has allowed guys to finish their checks since the dawn of time. Watch a game and see how many hits are on guys who just recently got rid of the puck.

I am not watching a playoff game until the NHL fixes this issue and all they talk but no actions. Their talks are cheap. I haven't had watched the playoffs for years now. If the Canucks are in, I'd watch but not other teams. I have had a sour taste in hockey since Sharks series in 2014. I used to be a fan of letting them play. Then I realize, what's good if a team won the game undeserved? I have changed my mind on this ever since.

 

[ThatGuy22]

It's pretty simple, this hit on Kaprisov, and Wild fans would be singing a different tune.

Hell, they thought this was a dirty hit and were calling for his head.

Wild fans were so enraged they started a grand total of zero threads about it.

 

[PlayMakers]

Not a Dumba fan but that should not have been a penalty.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

You're right. The Scheifele hit was an actual hockey play to prevent a goal and a play where the offensive player willingly put themselves in a bad position.

I love the absurdness of this board sometimes.

Look up the definition for charging... you're welcome.

 

[AKL]

I am not watching a playoff game until the NHL fixes this issue and all they talk but no actions. Their talks are cheap. I haven't had watched the playoffs for years now. If the Canucks are in, I'd watch but not other teams. I have had a sour taste in hockey since Sharks series in 2014. I used to be a fan of letting them play. Then I realize, what's good if a team won the game undeserved? I have changed my mind on this ever since.

What issue? Checking?

If you're not watching any playoffs why are you here?

 

[GreenLine]

I love the absurdness of this board sometimes.

Look up the definition for charging... you're welcome.

He stopped skating well before the hit. It was borderline at worst. Evans had a responsibility to not put himself in a bad spot.

 

[TaLoN]

What issue? Checking?

If you're not watching any playoffs why are you here?

Apparently... I mean it is even in the rules on how finishing checks is considered legal if the puck isn't there... they define the window and everything.

 

[The Enemy Within]

There is a reason why there is a window. It's the fastest darn sport there is and played on ice in which they allow some physical body checking. If you didn't have a window where plays can be close to where the puck was just there and now it isn't, you wouldn't be able to finish any checks.

Close play, for sure, and of course they did call a penalty.

You can't tell me that Dumba had the intent of Pavelski falling and hitting his head on the ice after the play. You also can't tell me that Dumba intended for himself to lose his balance and fall after making the hit.

Sadly Pavelski got hurt and I wish him nothing but the best in his recovery. You never truly want to see anyone get hurt.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Good hard finishing check. Unfortunate head contact with the ice.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

A late hit. The NHL game of hockey is a clown show. Pretty sure Dumba knew Pavelski was unaware but still proceeded to go full force on the hit. League needs to do better because this is not a good look.

Since the mid 70's, I've watched it all. I no longer find this classless disregard appealing.

 

[Sports2]

Dumba had no intention of playing the puck and had him lined up for days- which is charging. But it seems like that penalty is hardly ever called anymore. They used to mention it in those videos they would put out a couple years ago for player suspensions (Player took X strides, etc.). I would argue it was a "predatory" hit, which is also a word they used to throw around a lot, and would like to have seen a major penalty assessed but that may be exclusive to targeting the head.

Roughing doesn't make sense; it seems like they just made something up because they didn't know what to call it and forgot charging exists.

 

[Hall of Faber]

Dumba had no intention of playing the puck and had him lined up for days- which is charging. But it seems like that penalty is hardly ever called anymore. They used to mention it in those videos they would put out a couple years ago for player suspensions (Player took X strides, etc.). I would argue it was a "predatory" hit, which is also a word they used to throw around a lot, and would like to have seen a major penalty assessed but that may be exclusive to targeting the head.

Roughing doesn't make sense; it seems like they just made something up because they didn't know what to call it and forgot charging exists.

Dumba maybe took 1 stride into him, that’s not charging.

 

[Wasted Talent]

Sportsnet has a good video on the hit, showing how Pavelski gets whacked hard in the head by his own stick as it gets wedged between him and Dumba. Reminds me of that Hall on MacKinnon hit some time ago where the stick did the most damage.

 

[MuckOG]

Not a Dumba fan but that should not have been a penalty.

The penalty was rescinded. He got 2 minutes for scuffling with Domi after the play.

Dumba had no intention of playing the puck and had him lined up for days- which is charging. But it seems like that penalty is hardly ever called anymore. They used to mention it in those videos they would put out a couple years ago for player suspensions (Player took X strides, etc.). I would argue it was a "predatory" hit, which is also a word they used to throw around a lot, and would like to have seen a major penalty assessed but that may be exclusive to targeting the head.

Roughing doesn't make sense; it seems like they just made something up because they didn't know what to call it and forgot charging exists.

You aren't required to play the puck while laying a check. The "allowable window" standard the league office uses in .6 seconds after the puck leaves the stick. He was in that window which is why there was no discipline.

 

[Reality Czech]

Sportsnet has a good video on the hit, showing how Pavelski gets whacked hard in the head by his own stick as it gets wedged between him and Dumba. Reminds me of that Hall on MacKinnon hit some time ago where the stick did the most damage.

/thread

That video shows it all. I wonder if Pavelski would have been able to brace himself better for the hit (and aftermath) if he hadn't gotten clocked by two sticks across his head. It's no fun to see and you have to feel for the guy, but I'd say it's more of an unfortunate accident than anything.