strictlyrandy
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Whoa calm down Trump...
Hey!!! I haven't started combing over yet.
Whoa calm down Trump...
Right, much better to make vague statements that make it seem like the other person is wrong, while being completely unwilling to back up your comments when they call you on it.
There really aren't many players in the league that would realistically get Duchene from the Avs. Sure, guys like Gaudreau, McDavid, Seguin, Hedman, etc. would definitely get it done, but there is no realistic chance for those trades to happen.
So, who do the Habs have that could realistically get Duchene?
Price? Not moving Duchene to upgrade at a position where we already have Varly and Pickard.
Patches? Duchene is younger, signed longer, a C, and arguably better in everything that isn't scoring goals. Try again.
Galchenyuk? At best, this is a lateral move, assuming he reaches his full potential. Right now, Duchene is better in pretty much everything that isn't scoring, where they are roughly equal. The Habs would need to add something big, and I don't see that realistically happening.
Plekanec? No chance. Too old and a UFA in 2 years.
DD? Seriously?
Weber? No chance he's realistically moved, and he's too old for the Avs core. That contract is also too risky for my taste.
Sergachev? He's a very nice prospect, but Duchene isn't getting moved for prospects.
Who did I miss that you think would get the Avs to consider trading Duchene to Montreal?
Weber would easily get it done. The Avs would have to add a lot tho. Price gets it done easily no matter who your goalies are. Patches and Galchenyuk would make no sense for Montreal.
Its funny, you list alot of habs, and even go on to mention Plekanec and DD, who clearly have no value, but fail to mention Gallagher, Petry, Radulov amongst others, not that they would get it done.
Again
You. Missed. The. Point.
Read. Their. Post.
Gallagher and Petry don't have enough value to get Duchene. Radulov is too old and on a 1 yr deal (ignoring that if he wanted to be here he would have signed here).
Avs wouldn't add to Duchene to get Weber. Not at all.
Price...while great...isn't a need for the Avs and isn't worth trading Duchene over.
Duchene is a better all around player than Patches and younger. Still doesn't solve the needing a top 6 player while not losing one ordeal.
Galchenyuk isn't as good as Duchene and is a lateral move at best.
I dont know how this is so difficult for you to comprehend. It's spelled put for you multiple times yet all you do is go on the defensive and shake your head without understanding why it makes no sense for the Avs.
Weber would fetch a lot more than Duchene. The avs dont have nearly good enough goaltending to pass up on Price at the expense of Duchene. I can just at that. Galchenyuk had a very similar year to Duchene last season despite being a lot younger. He has alot more years of control. That is worth more than Duchene.
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Weber would fetch a lot more than Duchene. The avs dont have nearly good enough goaltending to pass up on Price at the expense of Duchene. I can just at that. Galchenyuk had a very similar year to Duchene last season despite being a lot younger. He has alot more years of control. That is worth more than Duchene.
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You keep insistent on sticking your head in the ground and being wrong. No, the Avs do not have a pressing enough need for Price to badly damage other aspects of their team to improve upon an already strong position. I'm sorry it offends you so much that Avs fans aren't racing to pony up for your God, but get over it please.
Weber would fetch a lot more than Duchene. The avs dont have nearly good enough goaltending to pass up on Price at the expense of Duchene. I can just at that. Galchenyuk had a very similar year to Duchene last season despite being a lot younger. He has alot more years of control. That is worth more than Duchene.
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The avs ponying up for Price would make no difference. He wont get traded for any Avs players. Only Crosbies, Ovies would make sense. Even then, I doubt the Habs pull the move on arguably the best player in the NHL.
The avs ponying up for Price would make no difference. He wont get traded for any Avs players. Only Crosbies, Ovies would make sense. Even then, I doubt the Habs pull the move on arguably the best player in the NHL.
The Avs wouldn't pony up for Price in the first place. Among the teams that would be calling the Habs on Price...the Avs aren't even picking up the phone. Seriously. How do you not get this? The Avs have zero need to move Duchene. If the Habs are the ones calling on Duchene, the Avs set the value.
Please understand....there are literally no players on the Habs that make sense to Colorado when it comes to Matt Duchene going the other way.
I'm starting to believe that you are to HFBoards what Mike Milbury is to the Islanders.
Would you guys do something like
Patches + DD for Duchene + Grigorenko
or
Patches + Plek for Duchene + Grigorenko + Cap Dump? Or we retain 2 mil on Plek
Just reading through this thread I feel sorry for the AVs fans having to listen to another teams fans tell you why your guys aren't good and how your team should be lucky to give up your best players for players of no need to your team. This happens to the cbj all the time so seeing it happen to other fans I feel empathy for you haha
That being said unless the Habs were giving up 2 pieces like a Patches + Serg so that it gives actual worth for them to consider I don't see how this could get done. They need more current top 6 guys and I saw a poster say they need winger depth also so getting a guy like patches helps but Duchene imo has a good amount of value over him so you would need a significant add. Obviously asking for another top 6 guy is too much and that would be Gally to replace the C they are trading but that's to much obviously so it likely has to be a prospect and honestly that isn't the Habs strong suit. The only prospect worth not that the Avs would look at is Serg. That would be an over pay but the Avs have no reason to trade so s9mething like this would be needed.
I amd not an Avs fan and do not claim to speak for them so don't use this comment against them as an example of Avs fans overvalueing their guy or undervalueing yours.
im starting to think you dont value winning at all
Ryder+Halak+ 2nd
On the real its prolly going to take something you wont want to give up.
And the Avs should achieve that by trading the only player to score 30 goals in an Avalanche jersey since Sakic retired for a piece they do not need?
Man, I guess the Avs and Habs should just trade their entire teams since the Habs are clearly doing something sustainable right now. There's no way the Habs could ever lose. Weird, it's almost like this happened last year too.
The Avs are 4-3-0 under a brand new coach that was hired short notice. The new systems have been taking an effect and it shows.
Again...I'll break it down for you.
Avs need MORE top 6 players. Not less. They do not need or want to trade Duchene.
Avs do not need defense. EJ and Barrie are on the right. They're giving Zadorov his shot on the top pair with EJ. He looks like he's developing well. Bigras will get his shot in the top 4 next year. I expect that to go well.
Avs have no need at all for Carey Price. They already have Varlamov and Pickard in net. One of those two has to get exposed as is.
Understand now?
im starting to think you dont value winning at all
im starting to think you dont value winning at all
A 2017 1st and Gallagher.
We do value winning. That's why we are trying to emulate teams like Chicago, LA and Pittsburgh, who have won with above average goaltending and very good forward depth, instead of a team like Montreal, who has pinned all their hopes and dreams on their superstar goalie, without success. Or did you guys win a Cup in the last 20 years that I didn't know about?
LA? You're undermining Quick
I think...
Galchenyuk
Sergachev
for
Duchene
Gelinas
Is a very fair trade for everyone. Habs get better in the centre position, while Avs get better in the defensive position.