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kilowatt

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I dunno we play the Sharks tonight so he might get the 2 points and we play Chicago the last game of the season so I don't think Iafallo's average career year is out of reach for PLD

Now if we could only get him to show up to games that matter maybe these STUNNING metrics would mean something

and i'm sorry (not really) but this just looks f***ing hilarious

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Double digits all over...but only one of them is in the reverse direction

Jack Johnson PLD is simply a victim of circumstance! He jumped on the ice 10 times as the opposing team scored!
 

The Gr8 Dane

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I really wish you guys would buy him out but it's not gonna happen, dude is a privileged loser he deserves the career humiliation from a buy out. Maybe it would make him put some effort on his next club and humble him . Not gonna happen tho
 

KingsHockey24

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I remember seeing this exact argument on these boards when JJ broke into the league. Naw, he was just really bad.
Only the real ones remember Jack Johnson in the playoffs against Vancouver in 2010.

That PP was special. :*)

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Lt Dan

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I really wish you guys would buy him out but it's not gonna happen, dude is a privileged loser he deserves the career humiliation from a buy out. Maybe it would make him put some effort on his next club and humble him . Not gonna happen tho
It all depends on what happens in the playoffs.

If the Kings flame out early and badly, it's game over for the front office. Dubois was supposed to be the key, the missing piece, the 2012 Jeff Carter , the 5th lion in Voltron..
Obviously he has sucked. There was some smoke at the deadline and whether that was real or manufactured remains to be seen.

But if we face Dallas, the Kings will get swept and bye bye Bluc

Please go to capfriendly and look at two things


The cap is a mess for next season. They are going to have to let Roy walk and we have no f***ing goaltending, and Byfield is up and due a huge raise

Look at PLD's buyout the next 3 off-seasons. As the great philosophers Led Zeppelin once said "now's the time, the time is now, going round the world gonna find my girl....on my way. I've been this way 10 years to the day..."
 

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It all depends on what happens in the playoffs.

If the Kings flame out early and badly, it's game over for the front office. Dubois was supposed to be the key, the missing piece, the 2012 Jeff Carter , the 5th lion in Voltron..
Obviously he has sucked.
He's been Joe Besser and Joe DeRita trying to replace Curley.
 
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Is there any truth that Blake had Debois going to the Bruins for they're goaltender. I heard that there was a trade with the Bruins at the deadline but it didn't go through. But the internet has some saying the Debois has worn his welcome out here in LA and blake was ready to pull the trigger on trading him and will still entertain trade offers on him.
 

tigermask48

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Is there any truth that Blake had Debois going to the Bruins for they're goaltender. I heard that there was a trade with the Bruins at the deadline but it didn't go through. But the internet has some saying the Debois has worn his welcome out here in LA and blake was ready to pull the trigger on trading him and will still entertain trade offers on him.
I think there had to be something to that. The only way the Kings fit Ullmark's cap hit in under the cap was a significant amount of salary heading to Boston. The Bruins were also a team that needed players that could play Center to go along with a strong group of Wings. So the trade made sense from both sides, no idea what the other pieces potentially were though.
 

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I think there had to be something to that. The only way the Kings fit Ullmark's cap hit in under the cap was a significant amount of salary heading to Boston. The Bruins were also a team that needed players that could play Center to go along with a strong group of Wings. So the trade made sense from both sides, no idea what the other pieces potentially were though.
hopefully they revisit this trade after the season. Getting this bum out for a goalie would be a miracle
 
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Interesting stats… Dubois over the last 19 games has 2+11 which is disappointing from a goal standpoint but he’s not had a single game where he was minus (+14 over the stretch). He’s now -9 on the season when he was -23. Even nearly 50% in the draw at 114/116.

I’m not saying he’s been good enough, or it was a good trade etc. However it seems Hiller has gotten a bit more out of him and he has played ‘better’, if still inconsistent. I’m drawing no conclusions as it’s too small a sample size but I am hoping he can round into some sort of form for the play-off (that’s hope not expectation).
 

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Interesting stats… Dubois over the last 19 games has 2+11 which is disappointing from a goal standpoint but he’s not had a single game where he was minus (+14 over the stretch). He’s now -9 on the season when he was -23. Even nearly 50% in the draw at 114/116.

I’m not saying he’s been good enough, or it was a good trade etc. However it seems Hiller has gotten a bit more out of him and he has played ‘better’, if still inconsistent. I’m drawing no conclusions as it’s too small a sample size but I am hoping he can round into some sort of form for the play-off (that’s hope not expectation).
Whats a bit shocking is his 5x5 point totals this season are about on target with his last couple seasons in WPG. Those have to be at the bottom of players making 8.5m aav.

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King'sPawn

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Even at 60ish points on average during his contract, I think it was a bad trade and contract. But at least there are raw numbers that make it feel less horrible. I don't like his general play, but not sure if some of that is driven by bias.
 

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Whats a bit shocking is his 5x5 point totals this season are about on target with his last couple seasons in WPG. Those have to be at the bottom of players making 8.5m aav.

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If they dont buy him out or trade him they should move him to wing next year. Put Byfield at center.
Dubois just floats too much and isnt all in on a night to night basis to play both ends like the Kings ask of their centers. Actually surprised he hasnt been moved to wing yet. They gave him a leash to figure things out that no one else has gotten in the Blake era.
 

kilowatt

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Interesting stats… Dubois over the last 19 games has 2+11 which is disappointing from a goal standpoint but he’s not had a single game where he was minus (+14 over the stretch). He’s now -9 on the season when he was -23. Even nearly 50% in the draw at 114/116.

I’m not saying he’s been good enough, or it was a good trade etc. However it seems Hiller has gotten a bit more out of him and he has played ‘better’, if still inconsistent. I’m drawing no conclusions as it’s too small a sample size but I am hoping he can round into some sort of form for the play-off (that’s hope not expectation).

But what’s the difference between what Hiller has done and what Todd was doing?
 

AbsentMojo

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that chart honestly makes me even more mad

on what planet are those 8yr $8.5M aav numbers?
Ya - this smacks of some kind of behind the scenes deal... its not a hockey deal to me when you look at his numbers and add in his rep.. i mean does Brisson have pics of Luc w a goat (not Gretzky, the ones with the weird eyes)
 

Raccoon Jesus

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He's not a play carrying center. He's at his best when he's a complementary--carried--winger.

I don't give a shit about his points over the last stretch when he visibly loses checks like it's going out of style--and ESPECIALLY with his pillowsoft matchups. What C in the NHL has f***ing KOPITAR AND DUBOIS taking all the tough matchups for him, and he's STILL getting outplayed? Like Athanasiou--this guy will LOSE us a series, not win us a series. Cool if he goes PPG and is still a net minus, its' just the worst version of Erik Karlsson.
 
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I feel like his goals with the Jets last season featured a lot of "big body in front of the net" type stuff, something this team kind of doesn't have. On the Kings, I feel like he is never in front of the net.

Coaching and deployment.

With two high end skill guys he is deployed net front and PP1, Jets have good success.

Now he is saddled with a rookie and spare parts with barely a whiff of PP time.

I actually want to see him on the LW with Kopi and Kempe, as I have said for months.

Tell PLD he is being deployed like he was in Peg, net front.

I think it would work but if not I swap PLD with Fiala, as LW L3.

Byfield has hit the wall and most of the goals are coming from Kopi and Kempe doing most of the lifting.

Put Byfield on L3 with Fiala and Laferriere or Kaliyev, try both.

Laferriere has been getting pushed around a lot and may be a weak link in the playoffs at times.

Love Laffys progress and potential but he kind hit a wall too.

I thought Grunny Sack would be back for L4, but starting to wonder what's up.
 
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He's not a play carrying center. He's at his best when he's a complementary--carried--winger.

I don't give a shit about his points over the last stretch when he visibly loses checks like it's going out of style--and ESPECIALLY with his pillowsoft matchups. What C in the NHL has f***ing KOPITAR AND DUBOIS taking all the tough matchups for him, and he's STILL getting outplayed? Like Athanasiou--this guy will LOSE us a series, not win us a series. Cool if he goes PPG and is still a net minus, its' just the worst version of Erik Karlsson.

I think you mean Kopitar and Danault, obviously.

Win us a series?

You have a lot of nerve to even utter those words after you wrote the Kings off almost daily , the whole damn season.

Kindly use your turn signal when you change lanes after 77 games.

o_O:amazed::shakehead🚓🚔🚨
 

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