Post-Game Talk: Dubnyk wins 3-1, Oilers Still Missing.

[MCMIL OIL]

Really glad a couple of the arm-chair GM's here aren't in charge.

I know Tambellini is bad but my good god... some here need to really take a step back. Full blown frantic panic attacks.

I said it would be intresting to say the least. This is a forum not everything is lock and seal my friend. You said it yourself tambo is bad, so what's your suggestion??

 

[harpoon]

I never thought LA would be much good for him tbh but then again I'm guilty of over-thinking things. Really looked to me that Penner got caught up in some lifestyle stuff, with the pretty people, and lost some focus. Bad marriage, yep, that was predictable and I said so here.

Edmonton is the right kind of environment for a big prairie kid like Penner. Could he still be right for here?

He's only thirty. Still time for a few productive seasons if he gets his head right.
Maybe the Kings don't want to move him back to Edmonton, but if I was Tamby I'd be placing a call just to see what the asking price is.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Big body presence of Gally? WTH? You make it sound like he's Lindros's or Lucic's size.

He's already 200 pounds at 18. RNH is a year older and listed at 175, and it's probably closer to 165, soaking wet. He's not huge, but he's big, and certainly much stronger and heftier than RNH is and probably will ever be.

 

[Oiltankjob Fail]

Dubnyk was awesome, simply awesome!

And then some

 

[Soundwave]

Anyone that believes for one second the Oilers are "the worst team in the Western Conference" haven't been paying attention to any of the other teams in the Western Conference this year.

Dubnyk lights out again today. Stole the game for us for sure. Take it and move on.

I've watched Columbus and Calgary this year. The Oilers are playing worse hockey than both of them right now.

This last week especially has been especially putrid.

They can barely enter the offensive zone properly even with a powerplay. That's not exaggeration either, that's literally what watching them is.

The Flames absolutely dominated us in their game and the Blue Jackets dominated us today. Only Dubnyk and a few goalposts made the result flattering to us.

Columbus is actually not that bad. If they had even 1/2 the talent we do, they'd probably be making some noise.

We're not the worst team talent wise, but we certainly are the dumbest team in the NHL right now. Probably by about a country mile. There's no team that makes as many stupid mistakes constantly as we do.

 

[Alex87]

I'm mostly concerned that the Oilers came out so flat despite being on a five game losing skid. I guess you can blame that on the schedule, but man it makes me nervous about coaching and leadership. The Oilers should have been incredibly motivated to win, but were abysmal, again.

 

[SeriousBusiness]

It's not always height that determines how hefty a person will be; it's more their 'frame'. I can't see RNH ever bulking up, tbh. I hope that he does, I hope more than anything, but being honest, I just don't ever see it happening. Gally has that frame--similar body type of Hartikainen, which makes it easy to add muscle and some body fat (as needed).

Seriously? He's 19 years old. How many of us here didn't bulk up to some degree after the age of 19? And we weren't professional athletes. He'll add to his frame, there really isn't any doubt about that.

 

[fuswald]

He's only thirty. Still time for a few productive seasons if he gets his head right.
Maybe the Kings don't want to move him back to Edmonton, but if I was Tamby I'd be placing a call just to see what the asking price is.

If you were Tamby it all would be your fault and we would have to hate you

 

[booyakasha]

Really glad a couple of the arm-chair GM's here aren't in charge.

I know Tambellini is bad but my good god... some here need to really take a step back. Full blown frantic panic attacks.

....depressing really.
if HFOil had there way to GM, Hall, Gagner, Hemsky, would be gone and all we'd have coming back would be , maybe a high 2nd rounder and some scrubs ?
bunch of geniuses we have posting around here.

 

[McClelland]

Yep, I credited Paajarvi on the excellent finish and read to move up into the play. Both players were very much on the same page. I was somewhat surprised at that as Gagner disguised the pass very well. Great on Paajarvi being ready for it and finishing with a perfect shot.
Been hard on the kid. But great goal.

But it looks like the "Gagner doesn't even play pk" knock is flying out the window fast. Kreuger is feeding him regular rotation lately. Barely a whisper on the boards about that.

Less and less things to critique Gagner about these days.

You sure did gave props to Paajarvi after this: "Great shot by Paajarvi but the key was the pass was crisp, sharp, perfect"

Scraching each others backs is very constructive

If you think that a good play and a open netter change that he has defensive issues, not only the umberger goal, but several times been knocked off the puck as in juniors. No one disagree that he has made a good start pointwizely, but of those points is 5 on pp and 5 p is 2 a were he barely was involved in the play and 1 empty netter. Thats not change how his been in the rest of his game hes still - and he still bad at Fo and still to easy to knock off the puck or win enough battles , the things we waited for at lest 3 seasons.

So you want him to play pk? We have missing out 3 c a couple of games, can have something to do with that. But its good that kreuger give him time there, makes the evaluation a lot easier.

 

[Mr Sakich]

this is how I feel about my Oilers right now

 

[aqib]

We did get robbed on that Eberle high stick that should have been a goal. I like the fact that we won a game on the road despite being flat. In any of the last 3 years we lose this game. I also like the fact that it looks like we found our goalie.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Anyone can bulk up, I speak from experience myself, but anyone can.

Datsyuk was even skinnier than RNH and he built solid now.

If you take in more calories than you burn and your testosterone is normal, you are going to gain weight. There's no two ways around it.

I guess we'll see. But fact is, Gally is already 'there' in terms of what his body frame and muscle strength should be for the NHL. RNH might get there, but he's not there today, and hasn't been since he's been drafted. Gally is just a better bet to be an impact centreman. His body is already there, he just has to adapt to the game. RNH is having all kinds of problems (he's still looking horrendous in the offensive zone) and his body might never be ideal. I'll still take Gally over him any day.

 

[Tarus]

He's already 200 pounds at 18. RNH is a year older and listed at 175, and it's probably closer to 165, soaking wet. He's not huge, but he's big, and certainly much stronger and heftier than RNH is and probably will ever be.

He was 172 pounds at the NHL combine before he was drafted, and is listed 185, not 175.

 

[Moonlapse Vertigo]

I've watched Columbus and Calgary this year. The Oilers are playing worse hockey than both of them right now.

This last week especially has been especially putrid.

They can barely enter the offensive zone properly even with a powerplay. That's not exaggeration either, that's literally what watching them is.

The Flames absolutely dominated us in their game and the Blue Jackets dominated us today. Only Dubnyk and a few goalposts made the result flattering to us.

Columbus is actually not that bad. If they had even 1/2 the talent we do, they'd probably be making some noise.

We're not the worst team talent wise, but we certainly are the dumbest team in the NHL right now. Probably by about a country mile. There's no team that makes as many stupid mistakes constantly as we do.

I don't know if the club is in a funk right now or what but their attack was certainly more composed and coherent under Renney. Maybe it was the fact that he was playing the kids fewer minutes and keeping them away from top checkers (for the most part)... I dunno.

 

[molsonmuscle360]

I've watched Columbus and Calgary this year. The Oilers are playing worse hockey than both of them right now.

This last week especially has been especially putrid.

They can barely enter the offensive zone properly even with a powerplay. That's not exaggeration either, that's literally what watching them is.

The Flames absolutely dominated us in their game and the Blue Jackets dominated us today. Only Dubnyk and a few goalposts made the result flattering to us.

Columbus is actually not that bad. If they had even 1/2 the talent we do, they'd probably be making some noise.

We're not the worst team talent wise, but we certainly are the dumbest team in the NHL right now. Probably by about a country mile. There's no team that makes as many stupid mistakes constantly as we do.

Washington

 

[Soundwave]

Watching that goal makes me more certain that MPS needs to be tried at center.

Carrying the puck on the wing is not his game at all even if he's good at skating, all that does is take him to the side of the net where he does that sad little flip into the goalie's crest.

Put him in the middle of the ice where wingers can zip him passes and one timers.

 

[harpoon]

Seriously? He's 19 years old. How many of us here didn't bulk up to some degree after the age of 19? And we weren't professional athletes. He'll add to his frame, there really isn't any doubt about that.

I have nothing to say about your post, just wanted to compliment your avatar shot.
Now that is a smoking hot lady. WTF is Harvey thinking?

 

[Soundwave]

Washington

Yeah they might have us beat, granted I haven't had a chance to watch them.

Do they at least get the puck in the opposition teams zone?

Our breakout philosophy:

2 defenders on blue line: Got the greenlight, tower, I'm going in. There's only two of them, get ready TSN, it's dangle time!

3 defenders on blue line: Looks a little dicey, but what the hell, I'm going in! Hey ... what happened to the puck?

4 defenders on blue line: Looks bad ... screw it, no time to overthink, it's HERO TIME! Hey is that Yakupov in the corner ov ... oh no, have to play defense now. Heeeeeelp.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Seriously? He's 19 years old. How many of us here didn't bulk up to some degree after the age of 19? And we weren't professional athletes. He'll add to his frame, there really isn't any doubt about that.

Gally is already there at 18!!! RNH is a full year older and has a TON of work to do. I mean A TON!!!
With his shoulder problems, he might never be able to work out as he should to fill out his frame. Who knows.
Gally is already there. Done. Ready for the NHL game, just has to learn it.

 

[fuswald]

You sure did gave props to Paajarvi after this: "Great shot by Paajarvi but the key was the pass was crisp, sharp, perfect"

Scraching each others backs is very constructive

If you think that a good play and a open netter change that he has defensive issues, not only the umberger goal, but several times been knocked off the puck as in juniors. No one disagree that he has made a good start pointwizely, but of those points is 5 on pp and 5 p is 2 a were he barely was involved in the play and 1 empty netter. Thats not change how his been in the rest of his game hes still - and he still bad at Fo and still to easy to knock off the puck or win enough battles , the things we waited for at lest 3 seasons.

So you want him to play pk? We have missing out 3 c a couple of games, can have something to do with that. But its good that kreuger give him time there, makes the evaluation a lot easier.

Gagner may not be a number one draft choice but he is doing better than the ones we do have. (maybe not Hall)

 

[MCMIL OIL]

....depressing really.
if HFOil had there way to GM, Hall, Gagner, Hemsky, would be gone and all we'd have coming back would be , maybe a high 2nd rounder and some scrubs ?
bunch of geniuses we have posting around here.

Here it is again time and time again. I take it you agree we lack depth and toughness??? Just gunna go ahead and say yes. So how do you suppose we add 2 top 6 forwards with out giving anything up?? And post me one quote where someone had gagner or hemsky going for a 2nd round pick. This post all around is senseless

 

[Wretched Oil]

fatalism aside, how was the play of J Shultz?

 

[fuswald]

fatalism aside, how was the play of J Shultz?

Best D as usual

 

[KarmaPolice]

fatalism aside, how was the play of J Shultz?

For a rookie, he's showing the play of a vet. He was very good, over all.